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Assunto: launchpad-users Digest, Vol 14, Issue 5
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Bazaar t-shirt (John Arbash Meinel)
2. SVN import of Beagle (David Allouche)
3. Re: beta oops (Matthew Paul Thomas)
4. Re: Bazaar t-shirt (David Allouche)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 12:21:00 -0600
From: John Arbash Meinel <john at arbash-meinel.com>
Subject: Re: Bazaar t-shirt
To: Matthew Revell <matthew.revell at canonical.com>
Cc: kiko at canonical.com, launchpad-users at lists.canonical.com, Launchpad
<launchpad at lists.canonical.com>, bazaar-ng at lists.canonical.com,
tim.penhey at canonical.com, christina.armstrong at canonical.com,
martin.pool at canonical.com
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Matthew Revell wrote:
> Howdy,
>
> Part of my role is to make sure more people know about Bazaar and what
> it can offer them.
I would say as a starting point, that we want people to get the core
statement from here: http://bazaar-vcs.org/Usability
Our goal is to make a version control system that is a joy to use.
We have focused on getting the edge cases right, so that people aren't
cursing their VCS. I know of a couple places where we don't quite get
there, but we are working on it.
>
> As part of that, I'm working on a t-shirt that we can wear and give out
> at conferences, sprints, etc.
>
> It's a simple way to tell more people about Bazaar: we all know that
> Bazaar rocks but relatively few people know it exists. The t-shirt
> should let people know Bazaar exists and why it's cool.
>
> What two or three things make Bazaar cool for you? The Bazaar t-shirt
> should tell people, in ordinary language, how it can help them. So, I'd
> like to pick your brains :)
I believe that Bazaar (and distributed VCSs in general) fit open source
development practices quite well. Or at least *good* practices. If your
source is open, you want to allow people to make improvements, and
contribute back with a minimum of fuss. I think we do that, and we do it
a lot better than diff + patch. We have a tool that lets a 3rd party
have as much flexibility as a core developer (when it comes to an VCS).
That, to me, would be why people would like us over SVN/CVS.
We also have a fun command:
$ bzr rocks
it sure does!
I could see something like that being used on a t-shirt, it might at
least spark interest. (We've had that command since the early-early
days, as it has been used as a simple "are things working?") It is
hidden, as it isn't really useful. But it is kind of fun.
Bazaar also tries pretty hard to fit into a user's workflow, rather than
trying to dictate the workflow to the user. Which goes along with the
first point.
Maybe something like "Bazaar: Making distributed VCS easy", though
people would need to understand VCS, etc.
Bazaar: Taking the joy of coding into the joy of versioning.
Yes, those are cheesy statements, but I'm trying to get a catchy one,
and sometimes they are pretty close together.
John
=:->
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 23:37:01 +0100
From: David Allouche <ddaa at canonical.com>
Subject: SVN import of Beagle
To: kevin at kubasik.net
Cc: Launchpad Users <launchpad-users at lists.canonical.com>
Message-ID: <459D818D.4050505 at canonical.com>
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I see that you have entered the following Subversion URL in the
chromadesk/trunk product series:
http://svn.gnome.org/svn/beagle/trunk/beagle
Since this is obviously the location of the Beagle trunk, and not the
chromadesk trunk, I have removed those svn details.
If you wish to have an import of Beagle from Subversion, I can disable
the existing CVS import.
Since it appears that gnome.org no longers runs CVS, I will have to
disable the cvs.gnome.org imports in bulk anyway. But in the meantime I
can disable selected import manually on request.
Regards.
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 17:21:28 +1300
From: Matthew Paul Thomas <mpt at canonical.com>
Subject: Re: beta oops
To: Launchpad Users <launchpad-users at lists.canonical.com>
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Hi Joey
On Jan 3, 2007, at 5:49 PM, Joey Stanford wrote:
> ...
> on BETA, please investigate |OOPS-368BETAZ30|
>
> when accessing https://translations.beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu
> ...
I've fixed this bug. <https://launchpad.net/bugs/76870> The fix should
appear on beta.launchpad.net when it is next updated.
Cheers
- --
Matthew Paul Thomas
http://mpt.net.nz/
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 12:31:46 +0100
From: David Allouche <ddaa at canonical.com>
Subject: Re: Bazaar t-shirt
To: John Arbash Meinel <john at arbash-meinel.com>
Cc: kiko at canonical.com, launchpad-users at lists.canonical.com,
bazaar-ng at lists.canonical.com, tim.penhey at canonical.com,
christina.armstrong at canonical.com, martin.pool at canonical.com
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John Arbash Meinel wrote:
> Maybe something like "Bazaar: Making distributed VCS easy", though
> people would need to understand VCS, etc.
>
> Bazaar: Taking the joy of coding into the joy of versioning.
In the same vein:
If the answer
is not one sentence
starting with yes
then it's a bug!
It's hard to find something graphical to talk about a VCS. Here's a
semi-graphical random idea:
CVS Subversion
X-( :-/
Git Bazaar
%-o :-)
In the same vein of friendly dissing.
CVS: Atomic commit? What do you mean?
Subversion: Branches? What do you mean?
Git: User friendly? What do you mean?
Bazaar: You mean this, don't you?
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