Launchpad etiquette document/code of conduct

[shirish]

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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 02:34:03 +0200
> From: Steve Alexander
> Subject: Re: Launchpad etiquette document/code of conduct
> To: Sarah Hobbs
> Cc: launchpad-users at lists.canonical.com
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> Hi everyone,
>
> This is Steve Alexander.  I work for Canonical, and I'm part of the
> management of the Launchpad project.
>

  Hi Steve,




> = Using real names =



> For Launchpad purposes, we require you to use your real names if you're
> going to be a Launchpad beta tester.  Being a beta tester means taking
> on a particular responsibility, and making an agreement with the
> Launchpad team about that.  I want to know someone's name when I enter
> into an agreement with them.  So, we'll require real names for Launchpad
> beta testers.
>
> Although we require real names only in some very specific situations, I
> think that revealing names and identities leads to a better community
> overall.  I've read through a number of accounts of harassment online,
> including some of those on the ubuntu-women mailing list.  I noticed
> that the worst harassment is done by people who do not reveal their
> names.  So, I want us to encourage a community where people reveal their
> names, and are held responsible for their actions.
>
> So, we have a tension between offering anonymity to those who fear being
> harassed and encouraging people to use real names.
>
> We will consider technical solutions to this problem, such as asking for
> real names that are visible only to Launchpad administrators, or only to
> other Launchpad community members who have signed the code of conduct.
> Please tell me what you think of this idea.

 The problem with signing code of conduct is it needs the GPG keys to be
 in the strong set which you have illustrated & will respond to that.


> = GPG keys =
>
> You can use GPG, and be part of the web of trust, without directly
> revealing your real name.  Here's how.
>
> 1. Create two GPG keys.  One has your real name on it.  The other has
> your nickname and a private email address.
>
> 2. You associate the GPG key with your nickname to your Launchpad account.
>
> 3. When you meet people in person, and show them your state issued
> identity document or whatever, they will sign the GPG key with your real
> name on it, as that is the name that appears on your identity document.
>
> 4. You use your "real name" key to sign your "nickname" key.  That way,
> your "nickname" key appears in the web of trust.
>
>
> We should get this written up somewhere with more concrete instructions
> for people who want to use GPG with Launchpad, but not publicly reveal
> their full real name.

  Well while I have done the starting thing of uploading my GPG key to the
  launchpad server I'm not so sure about how the state issued identify document
  things work out :-

   For e.g. I would be happy networking with some Ubuntu launchpad user
  & exchanging GPG keys but not necessarily anybody outside of it. For
  I know the community somewhat & I trust Ubuntu people in some sense.
  Another thing is howto use the gpg keys effectively. I've been having issues
 with using FireGPG (a firefox extension ) & my questions to the same lead
 me to be banned in the forum. I have also been trying to get some info. on the
 same on the gnu-pg users lists & although they have been pretty helpful
 quite a bit of things are beyond me. I have however tried been instrumental
 in also adding a bit or two at
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
 Please see if I have lapsed or put anything wrong in there or could
be made better.

> --
> Steve Alexander

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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 09:51:13 +0600
> From: "Vid Ayer"
> Subject: Re: Launchpad etiquette document/code of conduct
> To: "Steve Alexander"
> Cc: Sarah Hobbs ,
>         launchpad-users at lists.canonical.com
> Message-ID:
>
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> The thing I find annoying is : googling for a name used on LP throws
> it out very prominently. Is there any way to avoid this ?

 In fact one doesn't need to google, the same thing could be accomplished even
 within launchpad/wiki. More later.

>
> Not necessarily.  People can reveal their real name and still harass a
> woman online simply because "they _can_ get away with it" with no
> absolutely zero consequences.

  agree with that.

>
> > So, I want us to encourage a community where people reveal their
> > names, and are held responsible for their actions.
>
> Sorry, I disagree. Revealing my real name (thereby gender+country) has
> led to the harassment in the first place. Prior to Ubuntu (and even
> after joining) I was happily using a nick all along and never had any
> problems. It all started with me founding UW and thereby having to
> reveal my real name, location, etc if I wanted to be taken seriously.

   Sorry to hear that but I have mixed feelings about this one. Yes it
did make it easy to find you (felt like cyber-stalking if thats the
right word) http://www.svaksha.com/?p=91 but at the
same time I was glad to find a fellow-country men/women (sorry confused
as to what would be right there).

>
> > We will consider technical solutions to this problem, such as asking for
> > real names that are visible only to Launchpad administrators, or only to
> > other Launchpad community members who have signed the code of conduct.

 I have another perspective could we have something similar to UDS
(no developer here) but where passionate users, launchpad users &
all kinds of people can meet, hang out . For e.g. I don't know how many
more Shirish Agarwal's or Vid Aver's are there from India, would like to
know them.

>
> There is a lacunae here, what is to prevent a person who has signed
> the CoC from harassing another person who has not signed the CoC.
> Even if a team member takes the trouble to go to the CC and spends
> time proving that he/she was harassed the whole thing is pretty much a
> grey area since there are no consequences and they can pretty much
> continue doing whatever....

 Agree with that.


> Thanks for taking this further.
> --
> Vid
> http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/VidAyer
>
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          Shirish Agarwal
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