[Fwd: hggdh2 deactivated by matthew.revell]

[Efrain Valles]

Hey all I seem to have touch a never. I guess your views on harrasment
make perfect sense to me. I see the difference. I must admit I based my
answers on my personal and to an extend it is *very* selfish. and I
apologize if it infuriated anyone. 

Reading further and analizing the situation better. well laid out
points.

you are right.

thanks for sharing 

El sáb, 23-02-2008 a las 09:28 +0000, Caroline Ford escribió:
> On 23/02/2008, Sarah Hobbs <hobbsee at ubuntu.com> wrote:
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> >  Hash: SHA1
> >
> >
> > Efrain wrote:
> >  Would you have had troubles
> >  >> collaborating with me just because I was pochu?
> >
> >  > Yes.
> >
> >
> > Personally, I prefer to judge people on what they do, rather than on the
> >  name they choose to use.  By all means, if it makes you happier,
> >  continue to use two words to judge people.
> >
> >
> >  >> I don't think you should,
> >
> >  > but it´s my choice.
> >
> >
> > And it's our choice to judge you, based on how you judge people.
> >
> >
> >  > I am not promoting a policy, I am just saying. I do not trust people that
> >  > simply don´t care enough to share names.
> >
> >
> > And I don't care about people who refuse to believe that people have
> >  real reasons for not using their real names, and who rate their right to
> >  feel comfortable about the way people name themselves, above the other
> >  people's rights to not be harrassed, or to otherwise keep their privacy.
> >
> >  If you want to force me, by policy, to be harrassed, too bad.  I'm not
> >  interested.  The door is that way.  *points*
> >
> >  The more harassment I get from ubuntu, and launchpad, the more personal
> >  information I remove from it.  I don't  like being harassed, and I don't
> >  like people deciding it's OK for me, and others to be harassed, so they
> >  can feel more safe and confident.  If i end up then going and violating
> >  policies for teams that i'm a member of, then I'll just have to leave
> >  those teams.  It's not worth being harassed, just to be on a team.
> >
> >  Yes, this is something I feel very strongly about, hence the harsh mail.
> >
> >  Hobbsee
> >  (who, up until mid-last year, was going by nickname only, even while
> >  being a MOTU, and being a part of the beta testers team)
> 
> There is nothing I can add to this. Using real names means that I have
> to out myself as female. This means I get shit I wouldn't otherwise
> get.
> 
> I would also leave if life became uncomfortable. No-one is going to
> martyr themselves.. There are plenty of other projects to contribute
> to.
> 
> Caroline
-- 
Efrain Valles
Ubuntu-ve LoCo Team Contact
https://launchpad.net/~effie-jayx
1024D/F9C7378B 
Fingerprint = 0354 6E23 2A85 A408 BBAC  17DB 74AD AFE9 F9C7 378B