[lubuntu-devel] Spreadsheet for testing RAM for installing. Was: Re: non pae

[Nio Wiklund]

Yes Phill,

At least in that particular computer and those particular installed 
systems. I think it would be good if you and some other people try to 
confirm it :-)

Best regards
Nio

Den 2016-03-13 kl. 23:54, skrev Phill. Whiteside:
> Hi,
>
> so xenial needs less RAM when installed over trusty? 141MB down to
> 116MB. This is somewhat contra to the perceived thoughts of 16.04
> needing more resources than 14.04. It would be  a great statistic to
> push forward for those who doubt changes to the new kernel and its
> underlying system.
>
> Regards,
>
> Phill.
>
>
>
> On 13 March 2016 at 21:03, Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund at gmail.com
> <mailto:nio.wiklund at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi again,
>
>     IBM Thinkpad T42 with Pentium M test results:
>
>     Lubuntu Xenial desktop 32-bit iso file
>     - 224 MB RAM to install
>     - 116 MB RAM used when idling after second boot (installed)
>
>     Lubuntu 14.04.1 LTS desktop 32-bit iso file
>     - 208 MB RAM to install
>     - 141 MB RAM used when idling after second boot (installed)
>
>     See the attached file.
>
>     Best regards
>     Nio
>
>
>     Den 2016-03-13 kl. 20:06, skrev Nio Wiklund:
>
>         Hi Phill,
>
>         I suggest that you can mention that 256 MB is the minimum RAM to
>         install
>         Lubuntu Xenial. But near that statement you should also mention,
>         that
>         256 MB is not enough for normal browsing of modern (and bloated) web
>         pages. We recommend at least 512 MB RAM in order to get a fair
>         performance of 32-bit Lubuntu (and more is needed for 64-bit
>         Lubuntu,
>         maybe 768 MB).
>
>         I think the statement about 700 MB is left from the time before
>         zram was
>         introduced.
>
>         Best regards
>         Nio
>
>         ps 1/
>         I'm testing installing in my IBM Thinkpad T42 with Pentium M now. It
>         installed fairly well from the Lubuntu Xenial desktop 32-bit iso
>         file
>         with the additional boot options
>
>         linux ... mem=224M forcepae --- forcepae
>
>         But I would still recommend 256 MB as minimum RAM.
>
>         After the second reboot into the installed system it is idling
>         with a
>         RAM usage of 116 MB (which is good compared to previous versions).
>
>         ps 2/
>         See the modified spreadsheet (version 3) - slightly modified
>         /ds
>
>         Den 2016-03-13 kl. 17:45, skrev Phill. Whiteside:
>
>             Okies,
>
>             for ubiquity, we already know it needs more RAM to run, than
>             lubuntu
>             needs to run.... on the 'get lubuntu' page [1] We state
>             under 700MB  RAM
>             is minimum for ubiquity. If you are happy to lower that to
>             256MB I'm
>             happy to make the edit :)
>
>             For Alternate, we should be able to probe down to the lowest
>             level that
>             lubuntu will actually run on (with the proviso of a browser
>             eating up
>             resources - which is covered in those notes[2])
>
>             1.
>             https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu%2B1#Types_of_installation
>
>             2.
>             https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall+1#Low_Resource_Browser
>
>
>             On 13 March 2016 at 16:16, Henk Terhell <hterhell at chello.nl
>             <mailto:hterhell at chello.nl>
>             <mailto:hterhell at chello.nl <mailto:hterhell at chello.nl>>> wrote:
>
>
>
>                  Op 2016-03-13 om 11:36 schreef Nio Wiklund:
>
>                      Hi Henk and other Lubuntu users, who want to test
>             installing
>                      with low RAM,
>
>                      I see what you mean. I was testing last night with
>             my Toshiba
>                      with Intel i5. It is usually working fast, Lubuntu
>             can be
>                      completely installed within a couple of minutes.
>
>                      But when I approached the low RAM limit, I had to
>             wait for 3-4
>                      minutes for the first Ubiquity window to appear.
>
>                      Below the limit, I did not even get any wallpaper
>             after 6
>                      minutes, so I decided that it did not work.
>
>                      I attached a modified spreadsheet with some test
>             results from
>                      last night. I found a difference:
>
>                      Lubuntu 14.04.1 LTS desktop i386 can be installed
>             with 224 MB RAM
>
>                      Lubuntu Xenial daily desktop i386 can be installed
>             with 256 MB
>             RAM
>
>                      Maybe we should state a limit:
>
>                      Select 'Install Lubuntu' and set the boot option
>             mem=xxxM and
>                      press the Enter key. If the first window of the
>             installer does
>                      not appear within 5 minutes, we can consider that
>             there is too
>                      low RAM for the installer to work.
>
>                      Maybe we should suggest more patience, for example
>             10 minutes.
>                      What do *you* think?
>
>                      Best regards
>                      Nio
>
>
>                  For me 5 min is enough to despair about finishing the
>             installation.
>
>
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