OBI on DVD and more...

[Andre Rodovalho]

@nio

Grub2 and HBCD works good on any computer that boots USB drives. With
Grub2, I can also load grub4DOS, which is the base of HBCD live discs...

My notebook boots from USB, but I need to set a partition with FAT16 and
this not good. Using Plop, I can sometimes boot, but it's random, sometimes
it found what to load, sometimes freezes on Plop menu, and I need a hard
reset to get it back.

Lately I had problems with Asus a7v8x-x and Asus k8n MOBOs... These two,
boots nice on Plop but freeze on my USB menu... Weird!

A7V8X has something like USB-FDD and USB-ZIP option to boot. But they are
useless to me, does no work!


2014/1/6 Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund at gmail.com>

> Hi again Andre,
> [I'm answer inline this time]
> Best regards
> Nio
>
> 2014-01-06 14:03, Andre Rodovalho skrev:
> > Thanks you all...
> >
> > @nio: You don't need to upload a new mkusb. I'm pretty sure that
> > removing the sudo calls will make it work. My suggestion is to make it
> > "mainstream". But I understand that this could also make things a litle
> > more dificult for newcomers... but... Is up to you to decide...
>
> OK, I have tested it and I think there are no drawbacks, only
> advantages. You actually found a bug. I'll upload a new version of mkusb
> without any sudo inside as the new standard version :-)
>
> > @all: I tested Plop, and in some computers I have success. But on the
> > last two machines I tried, I got freezed after USB boot. I made
> > multiboot with Grub2 and also with HBCD (http://www.hirensbootcd.org/)
>
> Well, Plop doesn't work everywhere. It works in my oldest and slowest
> computer, where I can't boot directly from USB. But in another old
> computer of mine it does not work. Luckily it is possible to boot
> directly from USB in that computer. What results did you get with HBCD
> and grub2?
>
> Do you think there is a great need for CD booting?
>
> > Don't know If I'm doing something wrong, and I tested with different
> > Plop managers from different HBCD versions!
> >
> >
> > 2014/1/6 Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund at gmail.com <mailto:
> nio.wiklund at gmail.com>>
> >
> >     2014-01-06 03:49, Andre Rodovalho skrev:
> >     > I would like to know how can I create a DVD media with OBI and
> several
> >     > Ubuntu flavors or  other distros...
> >     >
> >     > The reason for that is, sometimes it is much easier to get a DVD
> drive
> >     > than fighting to boot USB drives on old hardware... With such
> media, I
> >     > could have about 4 distros, properly I could burn amd64 and i386
> >     > versions of Lubuntu, and have many other options to install
> >     >
> >     > I thought I could use the compressed dd image to get a iso file,
> and
> >     > maybe with on this iso add some tarballs to /tarballs directory.
> But I
> >     > never did something like this on Linux. Maybe there is a easier
> way to
> >     > get this done too...
> >     >
> >     > Another thing, I would like to suggest an change on mkusb script. I
> >     > recently had to use on  the partimage linux. There is no "sudo"
> there,
> >     > so I could not properly use this script to make a installation
> media.
> >     > Root user is always available on this distro, and also, there is
> some
> >     > distros that have no sudo binary...
> >     >
> >     > So, to get some more generic script, maybe the right thing to do
> is to
> >     > remove all sudo from code, and run the script as root user. In a
> >     debian
> >     > like distro "sudo ./mkusb".
> >     >
> >     > I'm hearing you thoughts...
> >     >
> >     >
> >
> >     Hi Andre,
> >
> >
> >     1. Multiboot
> >
> >     I see your point, but I think it will not be easy for me to make it.
> >
> >     There are several multi-boot systems for USB drives that are easy to
> >     create, but the ones that I know of for DVDs need remastering to be
> >     created. Maybe somebody in the Lubuntu community knows how to do it
> and
> >     would be prepared to make such a DVD image.
> >
> >     Can *you* how are reading this now do it?
> >
> >
> >     2. One Button Installer on CD/DVD
> >
> >     I agree with Brendan, that Plop is a good alternative.
> >
> >     2014-01-06 04:35, brendanperrine at gmail.com
> >     <mailto:brendanperrine at gmail.com> skrev:> plop is really good
> >     at getting things to boot off old hardware is plop
> >     > boot manager.
> >     > http://www.plop.at/
> >     > It is really easy for me to use at least.
> >
> >     2.1 I use a Plop CD to start some drivers that can boot a USB
> pendrive
> >     in my oldest computer, a Compaq Presario 5640 with a 400 MHz Pentium
> II
> >     CPU and 192 MB RAM. That way I can use the One Button Installer and
> >     install an operating system from a tarball.
> >
> >     2.2 A second alternative would be to make the OBI work from a
> CD/DVD. A
> >     couple of alternatives might work:
> >
> >     A read/write CD/DVD system is possible but not very standardized, and
> >     I'm afraid it might work only in a few CD/DVD hardware equipments.
> >
> >     Making an OBI iso file by remastering an iso system:
> >
> >     It would be more likely that a remastered iso system would work in
> most
> >     computers with a CD/DVD drive (to make an iso file live system with
> the
> >     OBI scripts included). I have never remastered a system, and need
> help
> >     to learn how to do it or ask someone else to do the remastering, but
> if
> >     many people want it, I think we should do it.
> >
> >
> >     3. mkusb without sudo
> >
> >     Your question about mkusb should be easier to solve. I just tried to
> use
> >     it without using sudo directly in the command line (but running as
> root
> >     via sudo -s).
> >
> >     The current version works like that for me. But I found that there
> are a
> >     few calls with sudo, that should be removed from the script (two
> calls
> >     of parted and one of fdisk), the others are only text strings in echo
> >     statements.
> >     -----
> >     grep 'sudo ' ~/bin/mkusb
> >     for i in /dev/[^f]d?; do sudo parted -ls|grep -B1 "$i"|tr '\n'
> '\t';echo
> >     "";done
> >        tj="$(sudo parted -ls|grep -B1 "$j"|tr '\n' ' '|sed s/Model:\
> //;echo
> >     "")"
> >          tj=$(sudo fdisk -lu "$j" 2>/dev/null|grep "$j":|sed s/\,\ .*//)
> >       echo "sudo $0 file.iso"
> >       echo "sudo $0 file.img.gz"
> >       echo "sudo $0 file.img.xz"
> >       echo "sudo $0 wipe-all"
> >       echo "sudo $0 wipe-1"
> >       echo "sudo $0 $1"
> >       echo "sudo lshw -class disk #####" > "$hlptxt"
> >       echo "sudo fdisk -lu 2>/dev/null|grep "/dev/[^f]d"|sort #####" >>
> >     "$hlptxt"
> >     -----
> >
> >     Can you try it after removing those sudos yourself, or do you want
> me to
> >     upload a release candidate to test?
> >
> >     If that does not work, there might be something else, that is used by
> >     the bash script in an Ubuntu based system, that is not available in
> the
> >     other system (in partimage linux). In that case, do you get an error
> >     message or warning?
> >
> >     Best regards
> >     Nio
> >
> >
>
>
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