Question from a newbie about backup software and more

[Phill Whiteside]

an external USB capable hard disk, they are very in expensive now compared
to when I bought mine!

Regards,

Phill.


On 16 May 2014 15:50, John Hupp <lubuntu at prpcompany.com> wrote:

>  Regarding the partition shrink, when I was setting up a dual-boot laptop
> recently I was mostly following
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoResizeWindowsPartitions
>
> But my notes about problems on this Lenovo:
>
> *Rescue and Recovery hidden system folder C:\RRbackups is unmovable by any
> defrag program I tried and keeps me from further shrinking the Windows
> partition more than an initial 30 GB.*
>
> *Lenovo forum notes that the folder and/or its contents may be reliably
> removed under any Live CD.*
>
> *Current folder size: 14.0 GB (probably holds a system image I did at some
> point).  Delete folder under Lubuntu Live.*
>
> *This triggered "Installing device driver software" at next Vista boot.
> No Unknown Devices when done.*
>
> *There was still an unmovable $UsnJrnl file near the end of the
> partition.  From an elevated command prompt, I deleted it with:*
> *    fsutil usn deletejournal /n c:*
> *It will eventually be recreated.*
>
> ------------------------------
>
> For whole-drive imaging in a Linux or Linux+Windows case, the Clonezilla
> Live CD should do a good job of imaging to an external hard drive or a big
> flash drive.
>
> Clonezilla can also create a bootable rescue DVD with both Clonezilla Live
> and the image on it, but currently it can't span to multiple DVD's.  For
> Lubuntu-only, Clonezilla can easily fit everything on one DVD.  But this
> won't work for Linux+Windows.  Even an 8GB DL DVD isn't big enough.  Since
> I like DVD for rescue media (cheaper to give away), I currently don't have
> a free solution for this case.  [*Does anyone?*]  I think Clonezilla can
> create a bootable rescue flash drive, so that may be good enough for many
> people.
>
>
> On 5/16/2014 8:27 AM, Andre Rodovalho wrote:
>
> If you can boot to Windows, I do recommend you to use Windows backup tool,
> or if you have a notebook, I specially recommend to use the restore
> function made by manufacturer...
>
> Usually there is option to backup your restore partition to DVD on those
> backup softwares made by manufacturer. The Windows tool saves all
> partitions, to DVD or Big thumb drive!
>
>  For Windows system backup, check the links on this page: *http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/products/features/backup-and-restore
> <http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/products/features/backup-and-restore>*
>
>  For factory restore (manufacturer): It depends, you can try to search
> "recovery" on the search tool of start button...
>
>
>  2014-05-16 5:26 GMT-03:00 Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund at gmail.com>:
>
>> Hi Basil,
>>
>> 1. I think you can reach more helpers for resizing and backing up
>> Windows at the Ubuntu Forums.
>>
>> http://ubuntuforums.org
>>
>> 2. But I'll start helping here ...
>>
>> I don't know what happened, so that you cannot resize the Windows
>> partition (with NTFS file system I assume). Maybe you are not closing
>> Windows (but hibernating), maybe the are errors in the file system,
>> maybe you made a dynamic partition.
>>
>> Use 'Windows tools' to fix Windows and Windows's file system. Then you
>> can change its size.
>>
>> I think you might fail to restore Windows from a backup to a smaller
>> partition. It is better to decrease the size and make a second backup
>> (keep both backups if possible).
>>
>> It is probably possible to make recovery disks now. It is worth trying.
>>
>> -o-
>>
>> I don't think there is a dedicated Lubuntu tool for backup. Use a
>> general tool, either a Windows tool or a linux tool. Do you want a
>> complete image of the drive? Or 'only' backup of the personal data
>> files, or something in between?
>>
>> See these links about backup
>>
>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem
>>
>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2223693
>>
>> Best regards
>> Nio
>>
>> 2014-05-16 09:10, Basil Fernie skrev:
>>  > Another question, really, but very close... If I should rather post
>> to a
>> > different link, please let me know.
>> >
>> > I want tp backup the Win7 system partition that came with my laptop,
>> > reduce it a whole lot and turn about 100GB of space over to dedicated
>> > Linux use. GParted doesn't want to touch it currently, because in the
>> > process of shrinking it earlier to make space available for the present
>> > Lubuntu installation, something apparently went wrong with some
>> > parameter with the result that while I can acces everything there and
>> > still boot into Windows, I cannot resize it.
>> >
>> > It has about 110GB of win7 installation and data, plus about 130GB of
>> > unused space. Much of the data is already backed up elswhere.
>> >
>> > So my plan is to backup the entire bootable Win7 partition onto an
>> > external USB drive which already contains a backup of my Linux
>> > operations, try reformatting the partition as Win32, then try shrinking
>> > it by 100GB and re-installing the backup onto it. If successful then
>> > I'll remove some of the data backups and shrink it some more. If needs
>> > be, I could just scrub the entire disk, set up a Win32 partition of say
>> > 150GB for the Win7 restoration, use the remainder of the disk for a new
>> > Lubuntu14.04 installation and live happily ever after.
>> >
>> > So I have two main problems: (i) what (Lubuntu) package should I use to
>> > backup the Win7 bootable partition that will allow me to restore it onto
>> > a smaller clean partition? There was no recovery CD when I bought the
>> > laptop... is it too late to make one from the recovery partition that it
>> > came with, and if so how?
>> > (ii) should I plan for having to erase and repartition the entire disk?
>> >
>> > Actually, I keep the Win7 partition merely so that every six months or
>> > so I can have the pleasure of catching up with all the Window upgrades
>> > (aka anti-virus measures) overnight; but I'm prepared to do this, and to
>> > give over let's say 30GB of the HDU, in order to have A working Windows
>> > boot partition Just In Case Wine doesn't help in a particular
>> situation..
>> >
>> > Any advice, even comments, would be welcome.
>> >
>> > Basil
>> >
>> > Pretoria, South Africa
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, 14 May 2014 21:37:25 +0200, James McCoy
>> > <spaceknight2 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >     I been using Ubuntu (now running 13.10) for some time and know it
>> >     comes with backup software like Deja Dup already included. I just
>> >     started learning about Lubuntu 14.04 and plan to install it in my HP
>> >     64 bit laptop and wonder does it also have built-in backup software
>> >     or do I need to install it?
>> >
>> >     If I need to install backup software - does anyone have suggestions
>> >     for backup software for Lubuntu?
>> >
>> >     Ubuntu has "Ubuntu Tweak" - is there similar software for Lubuntu? I
>> >     heard about "Lubuntu Tweak" but do not know anything about it. What
>> >     is it like? Will Ubuntu Tweak work on Lubuntu?
>> >
>> >     Is there any kind of listings/directories of software and/or
>> >     applications for Lubuntu in particular? I know of websites "Appnr"
>> >     and "Linux App Finder" - but they have apps for Ubuntu in general. I
>> >     am looking for lightweight versions of Ubuntu apps (example -
>> >     lightweight version of firewall "Firestarter" or lightweight version
>> >     of video editing software Kino/Kdenlive).
>> >
>> >     James
>> >     Indiana / USA
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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