upgrade from Lubuntu 12 LTS to Lubuntu 14 LTS on the extremely old desktop?

[Herminio Hernandez, Jr.]

general suggestion

On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 9:04 PM, Fritz Hudnut <este.el.paz at gmail.com> wrote:

> @HH:
>
> Funny . . . I didn't know other people have bills . . . hmmmm, total
> re-think on collective life in a capitalistic society.  But, when you say,
> "run the build command" . . . is this a general suggestion of something to
> do on the computer to fill its time . . . or specific to keeping my olde PM
> 3,1 running 12.04, but something that needs to be "built" . . . so that the
> upgrade for XFCE could then be installed ???
>
> F
>
> On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 6:23 PM, Herminio Hernandez, Jr. <
> herminio.hernandezjr at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> We all got bills, just run the build command leave the computer, do what
>> you gotta do, come back and you should be done :)
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 8:14 PM, Fritz Hudnut <este.el.paz at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> @AG:
>>>
>>> Thanks for the emotional support, yes, sniff, it's a lonely world in
>>> linux PPC . . . nobody calls, nobody "likes" my posts . . . the devs don't
>>> respond to bug reports . . . .  : - (((((
>>>
>>> But, sure, 450 MHz is "OK" for many local tasks, it just gets totally
>>> overwhelmed in places like FB . . . .
>>>
>>> @HH:
>>>
>>> Appreciate the reply as well, however, "get down to the terminal" . . .
>>> right, but for what?  I do use the terminal for routine upgrades, but,
>>> having spent time in fink and mintppc, where upgrades/installs took 8
>>> hours, during which something would invariably break, I've moved on to the
>>> more stable systems like the 'buntu flavors, that don't take so much time
>>> and attention to just get them to run.  Like, if there was a wiki on how to
>>> update xfce to 4.10 or 4.12 while in 12.04, and the CL instructions were
>>> detailed . . . I could maybe find the time.  But, compiling a kernel??  Too
>>> many things to do that I'm already ignoring . . . I've got "bills" . . .
>>> "bills" . . . "bills" . . . .  : - )
>>>
>>> F
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Herminio Hernandez, Jr. <
>>> herminio.hernandezjr at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Fritz,
>>>>
>>>> I would strongly encourage you getting down to the command line. It
>>>> will help you so much with Linux on PPC. I think once you get started you
>>>> will see that tasks like applying patches, building .deb files, even
>>>> compiling a kernel are not as daunting as they may sound. You will
>>>> definitely feel that you are more in control of your computing freedom.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 6:10 PM, Aere Greenway <
>>>> Aere at dvorak-keyboards.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 08/09/2015 04:37 PM, Fritz Hudnut wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> But, this JWM for PPC has been mentioned before, perhaps by the time
>>>>>> you have the time to do that, might be around when all support for 12.04 is
>>>>>> dropped . . . .  It's "hard" to work with a 450 MHz processor these days.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Fritz:
>>>>>
>>>>> I know (thanks to your reporting) that PPC support (or lack of such)
>>>>> is its own 'bag of worms', unfortunately.  I am impressed with your dogged
>>>>> determination in trying to solve the many problems strewn in your path.
>>>>>
>>>>> But at least in the Intel world, I have a 450 megahertz HP Vectra test
>>>>> machine, and it works with Lubuntu 14.04, 14.10, and now (more recently)
>>>>> with Lubuntu 15.04 (15.04 tested-out better than 14.10).
>>>>>
>>>>> It runs my MIDI music tests, including running Qsynth, Qjactctl,
>>>>> Rosegarden, and Java.  It played a demanding MIDI sequence without a single
>>>>> under-run error in qjackctl being reported.
>>>>>
>>>>> That being said, it is a slow machine, that I would not recommend to
>>>>> anyone.  Its best use is probably for me as a minimum-system test machine.
>>>>> But someone could use it, if they were motivated to.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>> Aere
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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