[Lubuntu-qa] Fwd: Re: Alternate testcase changes

[Bryan See]

There is an existing problem at the default installer side: some users would get the "Unsafe swap space detected" issue during full disk encryption.

http://askubuntu.com/questions/393418/unsafe-swap-space-detected

Using alternate ISO seems to be a solution to this issue. However, it would be better if this issue is resolved.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1241833

Bryan

07.03.2015, 22:01, "Nio Wiklund" <nio.wiklund at gmail.com>:
> Hi again,
>
> This link at Arch Linux discusses different aspects of encryption in
> computers, disk encryption and data encryption (with the special case
> home encryption).
>
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/disk_encryption
>
> My conclusion after reading that link is that 'Encrypted disk' is better
> than 'Encrypted home', so we need not push very hard to revive
> 'Encrypted home'.
>
> Please speak up if you do not agree!
>
> Best regards
> Nio
>
> Den 2015-03-04 17:57, Walter Lapchynski skrev:
>>  I'd say if Ubuntu in general considers it an edge case, it probably is.
>>
>>  @wxl
>>  Lubuntu Release Manager, Head of QA
>>  Ubuntu PPC Point of Contact
>>  Ubuntu Oregon Team Leader
>>
>>  On Mar 4, 2015 8:54 AM, "Nio Wiklund" <nio.wiklund at gmail.com
>>  <mailto:nio.wiklund at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>      Hi again,
>>
>>      I want to add:
>>
>>      1. I really think we should have a test-case for 'Encrypted LVM'
>>
>>      2. I can think of situations, when 'Encrypted home' is a better
>>      alternative. We can add such a test-case, if the Lubuntu users think it
>>      is important.
>>
>>      As it is now, these two test-cases would be independent, because it does
>>      no longer work with them in combination. If it is important, we can ask
>>      the developers to fix the bug(s) so that the original alternate
>>      test-case works again.
>>
>>      Best regards
>>      Nio
>>
>>      Den 2015-03-04 17:24, Nio Wiklund skrev:
>>>  Hi Walter,
>>>
>>>  Encrypted LVM is *the* test-case in all other Ubuntu flavours
>>      including
>>>  Ubuntu server. I really think we should test it, not only LVM.
>>>  'Encrypted disk' is implemented via LVM.
>>>
>>>  Lubuntu is a special case with 'encrypted LVM', and inside it
>>      'encrypted
>>>  home'. What I suggest is to remove 'encrypted home' from the
>>      test-case.
>>>  Best regards
>>>  Nio
>>>
>>>  Den 2015-03-04 17:15, Walter Lapchynski skrev:
>>>>  I agree there's no reason to wait for desktop to implement the
>>      change to
>>>>  alternate.  I do, however want to emphasize that encryption is more
>>>>  valuable to the average user than LVM.  Maybe we should separate
>>      these
>>>>  testcases for now? Then at some point in the future, we could
>>      create a
>>>>  combined one.  Or is encrypted LVM a really unique case?
>>>>
>>>>  @wxl
>>>>  Lubuntu Release Manager, Head of QA
>>>>  Ubuntu PPC Point of Contact
>>>>  Ubuntu Oregon Team Leader
>>>>
>>>>  On Mar 4, 2015 8:05 AM, "Nio Wiklund" <nio.wiklund at gmail.com
>>      <mailto:nio.wiklund at gmail.com>
>>>>  <mailto:nio.wiklund at gmail.com <mailto:nio.wiklund at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>      Den 2015-03-04 14:38, Lars Noodén skrev:
>>>>>  On 04.03.2015 14:50, Nio Wiklund wrote:
>>>>>>  Hi Walter, Lars, Phill and all other Lubuntu users
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  I think we have a working alternative, that should be
>>      rather easy to
>>>>>>  implement for the Alternate Install (Encryption)
>>      test-cases (for the
>>>>>>  i386 as well as the amd64 iso files).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  @ Walter and Lars: Can we agree to modify the (alternate)
>>      test-cases?
>>>>>>  @ Lars: ... and when agreed, will you edit the alternate
>>      test-cases?
>>>>>>  @ Walter and Lars: The next step will be to design
>>      corresponding
>>>>>>  test-cases for the Lubuntu desktop iso files.
>>>>>  Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>>  I can try modifying the Alternate encryption case, if
>>      someone can
>>>>      remind
>>>>>  me of the URL to the right guide to do that, when the time
>>      comes.  The
>>>>>  hard part is not the HTML but dealing with bazaar and then
>>>>      following the
>>>>>  right procedure for a pull.  Would that be for 15.04 or for
>>      15.10?
>>       http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-testcase/ubuntu-manual-tests/trunk/files/head:/testcases/image/
>>      <http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-testcase/ubuntu-manual-tests/trunk/files/head:/testcases/image/>
>>       <http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-testcase/ubuntu-manual-tests/trunk/files/head:/testcases/image/>
>>>>>  For 16.04, it would be best if the installers handled
>>      encryption
>>>>>  properly so that workarounds like dropping to the shell are
>>      not needed
>>>>>  for full disk encryption.
>>>>>>  ...
>>>>>>  @ everybody:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Skipping 'encrypted home inside encrypted disk with LVM'
>>      makes things
>>>>>>  much easier to get working. ...
>>>>>  Encrypted home is probably important if there are multiple
>>      users
>>>>      or one
>>>>>  user with multiple roles on the machine.  For the full hard
>>      disk
>>>>>  encryption I see a main use-case as being work laptops that
>>      travel and
>>>>>  thus at risk of being lost or stolen.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Regards,
>>>>>  /Lars
>>>>      Hi Lars,
>>>>
>>>>      1. I hope we can agree very soon about the alternate encryption
>>>>      test-cases, and do it for 15.04, but I can fully understand,
>>      that Walter
>>>>      or some other important persons may want to wait and think
>>      twice before
>>>>      changing these test-cases.
>>>>
>>>>      2. What I suggested today does not imply any dropping to a shell.
>>>>      Without encrypted home the alternate test-cases will be
>>      smooth. But I'm
>>>>      waiting for someone (you, Lars?) to verify my test results.
>>>>
>>>>      3. I agree that 'Encrypted home' is important if there are
>>      multiple
>>>>      users or one user with multiple roles on the machine. But
>>      must it be
>>>>      combined with encrypted disk and LVM?
>>>>
>>>>      4. I think creating the corresponding test-cases for the desktop
>>>>      installer needs more time, but modifying the alternate
>>      test-cases need
>>>>      not wait for the desktop ones to be ready for publishing.
>>>>
>>>>      Best regards
>>>>      Nio
>
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