sudo timeouts + abiword/gnumeric/planner

[Mark Shuttleworth]

>Also, we are currently installing OpenOffice.org, Abiword and Gnumeric. We
>originally did this because some users prefer the GNOME Office apps, but it
>is quite confusing to have all of these in the desktop install by default,
>especially if you choose to run Abiword, but the default app in the MIME
>system is OpenOffice.org. I propose that we shift Abiword and Gnumeric back
>up to the SupportedSeed, so that users who know they want them can get them,
>but they don't confuse the default install.
>  
>
Yes, OK.

>We're currently shipping Planner in the DesktopSeed (no rationale, from
>memory), but I don't think it fits the 'greatest common factor' goal of the
>default install -> only particular users will have a need for it. I propose
>that we shift it back up to SupportedSeed.
>  
>
Except that a lot of people WON'T KNOW about Planner. Part of the joy of 
open source is that there is such a wealth of applications out there. 
Yes, some of them might be quite technically demanding to use, but there 
are people out there who will have an interest in that field and figure 
out how to use them.

For Hoary, I'd like to make sure we have:

  - a basic paint program (A 'la Paint on Windows)
  - Inkscape / Sodipodi

We should aim to fill the install CD with the best-of-breed applications 
in key use areas, even if those use areas are not things that everyone 
will use, they give the platform a richer, more comprehensive feel.

The only reason not to include Inkscape or Sodipodi was that we could 
not decide which would emerge with more momentum.

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