cross-platform virus

[Sasha Tsykin]

Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Monday 10 April 2006 16:40, Sasha Tsykin wrote:
>> Alan McKinnon wrote:
>>>> So supply enterprise and personal desktop options in the
>>>> installer. It is certainly something everybody can understand,
>>>> and is not difficult to set up, neither would it take much extra
>>>> disk space, it would only include things that are simply
>>>> uninteresting to the average desktop user in the enterprise
>>>> option instead. Would seem to make sense.
>>> I think that would only serve to increase support traffic even
>>> more and introduce confusion. We are already swamped with "I
>>> typed my root password and nothing
>>> happened!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" type posts, surely we don't
>>> want more and also have two explain to switch-to-root systems?
>>> With sudo, a single default setup suits most single users well,
>>> and it scales up.
>> it does not suit users of other Linuxes at all. When they use
>> Ubuntu, they find they can't do anything which requires root
>> privileges (because most of the time they have never even heard of
>> sudo) and they just leave it and say "isn't that a crap distro."
>> This has to change.
> 
> I can't believe you posted that.
> 
> Ubuntu should change it's privilige elevation scheme because ... Red 
> Hat/SuSE/MostEverythingElse does it a different way?? By that logic 
> we should dump X into near-kernel space because Windows does it that 
> way, and the effects of Ctrl-Alt-Fn confuse new users.
> 
> What measurements and studies have you conducted or consulted to be in 
> a position to say that 'they just leave it and say "isn't that a crap 
> distro."' That looks like an awfully big assumption on your part.
> 
taling to them, and personal experience. The first time I used Ubuntu I 
abandoned it because I couldn't figure out how to gain root privileges.
>> Furthermore, many major Linux distributions provide these sorts of
>> choices, eg. Fedora.
> 
> What exactly do you mean by this? What would you like Ubuntu to 
> change? Minimal/Server/Dev/Desktop install choices are nonsensical in 
> the light of the core Ubuntu philosophy
> 
how?