'Ubuntu takes on XP in the gadget arena'

[Randy Gloden]

Robert,

I have no doubt you have experienced freezes and BSODs in XP.  I am in a 
different environment from you so I would expect differing results.  Our 
builds are standardized and tested long before they are deployed, and we 
run a variety of applications (also tested).  We have applications 
crash, but not the XP OS itself.  That is our experience.   I'm sorry it 
don't match yours.

Some of my worst experiences have been with Linux on bad hardware.  
Linux wasn't bad, the hardware was.

XP is evil for it's own reasons, but stability, at least in "my" 
environment is not the source of that evil.

By the way, I would love to throw constant examples of BSODS at my 
fellow co-workers with whom we often have friendly jousting over our OS 
prefrences.  Unfortunately, there are no examples to throw.

Instead, I use Linux type tools (like Cygwin) to demonstrate how 
different  Linux/Unix command can be linked together to do incredible 
things.  (And there is always the ssh redirection tricks or netcat 
fun).  It is possible to give them a taste of Linux, even within our 
Windows centric environment

I do have experience with a development XP machine (out side of the 
environment) that does shut down slow and the Twin View utility must 
sometimes be killed manually.  Is that enough to make you happy?  :-)

I don't care if XP runs forever, bad reliability of XP isn't why I'm 
into Ubuntu!

---------Randy
randy at microbabble.com




Robert Stoffers wrote:

> Jonathan Jesse wrote:
>
>>> Derek,
>>>
>>> It is pretty naive of you to claim that you "see no sign that _anybody_
>>> is suffering BSODs on XP Pro", especially considering several people on
>>> this list have already given you examples it happening. In my case I
>>> look after thousands of XP Pro computers and see it on a daily basis,
>>> you have just chosen to disregard each person who mentions it.
>>>
>>> Your claim is so ludicrous that it could be easily ripped right out 
>>> of a
>>> Microsoft marketing textbook. Windows XP Pro, especially with SP2,
>>> crashes just as much as NT ever has. I would be happy to eat my own
>>> words if you provide me with proof to the contrary (I know this won't
>>> happen as I have seen it for my own eyes).
>>>
>>> Now despite what some might think I'm in no way claiming that any OS is
>>> without its faults. I've seen Linux, Solaris and plenty of other
>>> operating systems crash and have problems too. What I am saying is
>>> please don't fill my inbox with Microsoft marketing-style dribble, if I
>>> want that I'll visit microsoft.com.
>>>
>>> -- Robert Stoffers
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>
>> Robert,
>>
>> I'll post to the contrary on this with specific numbers.  I work for a
>> company that has about 50 PCs (note: I know not as big as the one you 
>> work
>> for) but we haven't seen one blue screen on any of these Windows XP
>> service pack 2 boxes.  In fact I haven't seen a blue screen since 
>> Windows
>> 2000 Professional.  The only time I saw a blue screen on a server 
>> product
>> (2000 or 2003) was when we had hardware problems.
>> That is specific contrary evidence and not "marketing drivel"
>>
>
> I'm sure that there have been plenty of success out there with 
> Windows, but for a person to claim they haven't heard of anyone who 
> does see blue screens on Windows is ridiculous. I'd love to actually 
> be allowed to quote figures from work myself.
>
> I'm sure I've been trolled here pretty good this time.
>
> -- Robert Stoffers
>