FCC and the internet

Derek Broughton derek at pointerstop.ca
Fri Oct 23 14:09:45 BST 2009


David Sanders wrote:

> Oh, stop your misinformed nonsense please.
>> All Democrats should look to Europe for Guidance.  They went the
>> Democratic Socialist way  years ago and are now fighting their way back
>> in Germany and France and to a lesser degree  in other countries. They
>> have to, or they will become the little sisters of Eastern Europe,
> 
> That is utter nonsense, they are fighting their way back from in
> Germany's case massive underdemand for their industrial products, 

And the phenomenal cost of re-integrating the DDR - which in a less well-
organized country would have collapsed the economies of both East and West.

> and
> in France's case massively protectionist laws which have made their
> economy unviable in the European marketplace.
> 
> It has NOTHING to do with socialism.  If you want examples of
> socialism at work look at Denmark, Sweden and Norway.
> 
>> economically.  It was for seventy five years that the Soviet Union was
>> pushing socialism.
> 
> WTF are you talking about? They were "pushing" revolutionary Marxism.

It's just a knee-jerk reaction.  Americans are told that the Soviet Union 
was "socialist" (it must be true - it was in the country's name!), and 
therefore anything else that calls itself socialist must be the same thing.

> There is no one left to back it now.  Markel and the
>> French leaders are now finding Obama too far to the left and much to
>> their distaste these days. They have not hesitated to criticize him.
> 
> In Europe we criticise who we want - many leaders have been criticised

They haven't been critizing Obama for being "left", though.  Those of us who 
appreciate our socialism consider almost every American politician to be on 
the right of the spectrum.

>> find it amazing that democrates don't even recognize that their
>> progressive Liberal advocacy is in reality Socialism and in some cases
>> of a far left breed.
> 
> Maybe they do, is that evil sorry? 

No, they don't, because there is nothing recognizably "socialist" about the 
US Democratic party, and never has been.

>> We are out of step with nearly the entire world.  Russia, China
>> ,India and a great deal of Europe shedding their own socialism in favor
>> of the stronger Capitalism that provides better and more productive
>> incomes for all.
> 
> WTF!!!! India is a captialist democrary and has been for years!

It's the same guilt-by-association as above.  For years, the USSR cozied up 
to India, therefore they're socialists...  In any case, any reading of 
current events in those countries makes it clear that there's no "better and 
more productive incomes for all", but only for a few.

> China is a totalitarian autocracy and Russia has also been captalist
> since Glasnost (though with a shady goverment).

The best kind of capitalism!
-- 
derek




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