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[Samuel Thurston]

On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 4:17 AM, Alan Pope <alan at popey.com> wrote:
> I've added an proposal to the Ubuntu Community Council agenda to shut
> the sounder list down.
>
> When the Ubuntu project was started, the sounder list was a place
> where new ideas and fun things like 'Ubuntu sightings' were discussed
> - it was the first mailing list you would read in the mornings.
> However nowadays I don't believe this list is serving its purpose &
> isn't helpful to the project. It only serves to allow a small set of
> people to argue about subjects very tenuously related to Ubuntu, or
> unrelated at all. The Ubuntu project doesn't need this list anymore.
>
> If anyone has an opinion / counter proposal I would recommend they
> turn up to the next CC meeting where it can be discussed.
>
> The next CC meeting is due to be on the 17th April 2011 at 11:00 UTC
> and will be held in #ubuntu-meeting on freenode IRC. I'll send a
> reminder nearer the time.
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda
>
> It can of course also be discussed on this list, and at the meeting
> I'll do my best to objectively pull together opinions and proposals
> from those not present.
>

So, Alan, I will attempt to show up for the meeting but I want to make
sure that the following points are perfectly clear should I be unable
to attend:

1) so far the overwhelming majority of responding list users reject
the proposal for shutdown
2) on the basis of presented evidence your thesis is not accepted as fact
3) sounder serves a useful, legitimate role in the Ubuntu community as
a place for community members to discuss Ubuntu, Linux and computing
issues outside the scope of other community lists.
4) if you proceed to seek shutdown regardless of 1,2 & 3, please
accept the following counterproposals:
     a) do nothing, as there is no consensus that anything need be done
     b) if there is a sense that something must be done, light touch
should be employed: warn and block access to habitual offenders of the
community CoC
     c) if it is felt that (b) is inadequate, assign a list moderator
& a clear statement of what is to be considered OT.  The traffic is
not high enough that this is an overwhelming burden.
5) Whatever the problem is, throwing baby out with bathwater should
not be considered a favorable option.

Thanks and regards,
Samuel