Ubuntu Developer Survey and Next Steps

[Stéphane Graber]

On 09/08/2011 07:03 PM, Iain Lane wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> Thanks for taking the poll.
>
> On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 03:40:47PM -0700, Jono Bacon wrote:
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> I have just published the report highlighting the findings from the
>> Ubuntu Developer Survey I ran recently. It is at http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/09/08/ubuntu-developer-survey-report-and-next-steps/
>>
>> I think it would be useful to organize a joint TB/DMB meeting to
>> discuss the findings. Maybe we could do this at the next scheduled
>> TB meeting - would you folks be open to that?
>
> The next TB meeting isn't for 2 weeks, which is quite a while. We have a
> DMB meeting on Monday @ 1900UTC though, which could work? We've got one
> application to do and Micah's appointment to ratify so if you guys join
> us at 1930? We could maybe carry on until 2100 if necessary. Dunno, just
> a thought.
>
> Having read the report, I'm concerned about the low response rate. Also
> some of the comments quoted talk about going to the TB or MOTU council,
> processes which haven't been used for quite a significant amount of
> time, which makes me wonder that the information isn't fresh. This is
> further backed up by your graph about Canonical employment. Take a look
> at Mackenzie's recent record keeping
>
>    http://people.ubuntu.com/~maco.m/dmb_record_keeping.html
>
> and note the proportion of recent (since February) applicants that
> worked for C. This indicates to me that a serious number of people who
> have been through the DMB process (and /especially/ a significant number
> of people who interacted with the current DMB, who were the butt of the
> recent "discussions") didn't reply to the survey.
>
> Cheers,

Hi Jono,

Thanks for running that survey and for the report.

I agree with all of Iain's comments, there are definitely things we can 
learn from that report, which at least for me sounds like, more 
documentation on upload rights and how to get there.

I honestly don't remember the questions from that survey but by the 
report I'd think there wasn't a "Did you apply through the DMB or before 
it got created?" question which would have helped us a lot analyzing 
these results.

I know the DMB is very far from being perfect and we've had quite a few 
issues with quorum lately but I'm still surprised that so many people 
(applicants for coredev and PPU) found our processing time to be poor or 
below average when I think the longest wait time we had was two 
meetings, which in our case means a month.
I seem to remember waiting a lot longer than that when applying for per 
package upload, motu and coredev myself and finding that to be perfectly 
normal.

Anyway, I agree that having an IRC meeting to publicly discuss these 
results would be nice and the next DMB meeting would be a good candidate 
for that.

Next TB meeting is on beta2 release day, so I'd think most of us are 
going to be quite busy with other things on that day, having it sooner 
would be great.


Thanks

-- 
Stéphane Graber
Ubuntu developer
http://www.ubuntu.com