From alpuzz at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 03:44:06 2007 From: alpuzz at gmail.com (Al Puzzuoli) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:44:06 -0500 Subject: Team Meeting -- topic BUGS References: <45DD9312.4050105@ubuntu.com> Message-ID: <001401c75bb3$ddde5e80$6901a8c0@thinkpad> Hi Henrik and everyone, Unfortunately, I was unable to make the meeting today, but I wonder whether there was any discussion on the topic of the install procedure on the Live CD? Yes, I probably sound like a broken record by now, and I'm sorry to keep harping on this single point, but it it would really make a huge difference both in terms of practical usability, and in terms of first impressions for new users if the installer could be accessible without requiring those esoteric settings in .orbitrc. I know that the implementation of the orbitrc is really a Gnome issue, but I wonder if a workaround could be devised, at least for ubiquity until the larger issue is resolved once and for all? Thanks for any thoughts, --Al From kb8aey at verizon.net Thu Mar 1 06:03:15 2007 From: kb8aey at verizon.net (mike coulombe) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 00:03:15 -0600 (CST) Subject: just a question Message-ID: <0JE7006NQNHECSH1@vms048.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, what is the minimum processor that can be used with feisty. Thanks Mike. X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 000719-0, 02/28/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean From researchbase at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 06:23:26 2007 From: researchbase at gmail.com (krishnakant Mane) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:53:26 +0530 Subject: Team Meeting -- topic BUGS In-Reply-To: <45DD9312.4050105@ubuntu.com> References: <45DD9312.4050105@ubuntu.com> Message-ID: hello all, I have been a passive listener on the accessibility issue so far. I am in the process of setting up the second foss based computer center for the visually handicap people here in India. In one of the states called karala, it has become the government policy to use foss based systems thus gnu/linux has become mandatory in every institution. well as of now we have had much trouble using orca and time and again need to switch back to emacspeak. while emacs and thus emacspeak is a great desktop at the command line it does have steep learning curve and if one has to take complete advantage of all the features in emacspeak they have to take lot of learning trouble which consumes lot of time. and then it is not a good thing to force every one to work on the command line every now and then. any ways coming to the point, I am wondering whether open office related issues have been fixt for the up coming version of orca and ubuntu? the main problems were responsiveness and font/ attribute identification. I had herd from a few people that firefox with firevox plugin worked well with orca but that never happened in my case. one of my colligue did use it but after some days when he updated orca and other little things in ubuntu it stopped working. so what will be the accessibility status of firefox with ubuntu 7.04? I really want to contribute my services to the visually challenged people for accessibility in foss because our government is ready to provide computers to blind students with 90% discount and the only condition is that they will require to use foss based solutions. I have been given the responsibility to see to it that things are working fine in all institutes in my state and that's the reason I am bothering all of you with my questions. thanks and regards. Krishnakant. From researchbase at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 06:25:21 2007 From: researchbase at gmail.com (krishnakant Mane) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:55:21 +0530 Subject: Please provide some updated details. Message-ID: hello, I am so sorry to post on the wrong thread. so I am posting with new subject line. my email follows. I have been a passive listener on the accessibility issue so far. I am in the process of setting up the second foss based computer center for the visually handicap people here in India. In one of the states called karala, it has become the government policy to use foss based systems thus gnu/linux has become mandatory in every institution. well as of now we have had much trouble using orca and time and again need to switch back to emacspeak. while emacs and thus emacspeak is a great desktop at the command line it does have steep learning curve and if one has to take complete advantage of all the features in emacspeak they have to take lot of learning trouble which consumes lot of time. and then it is not a good thing to force every one to work on the command line every now and then. any ways coming to the point, I am wondering whether open office related issues have been fixt for the up coming version of orca and ubuntu? the main problems were responsiveness and font/ attribute identification. I had herd from a few people that firefox with firevox plugin worked well with orca but that never happened in my case. one of my colligue did use it but after some days when he updated orca and other little things in ubuntu it stopped working. so what will be the accessibility status of firefox with ubuntu 7.04? I really want to contribute my services to the visually challenged people for accessibility in foss because our government is ready to provide computers to blind students with 90% discount and the only condition is that they will require to use foss based solutions. I have been given the responsibility to see to it that things are working fine in all institutes in my state and that's the reason I am bothering all of you with my questions. thanks and regards. Krishnakant. From cbhworld at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 11:04:27 2007 From: cbhworld at gmail.com (Chris Hayes) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:04:27 +0000 Subject: Voice Recognition for Linux In-Reply-To: <1172536400.10019.132.camel@localhost> References: <94b38bfa0702191017q717ab677ydba3f3d3c2e8a63e@mail.gmail.com> <45D9F5C5.6050204@harvee.org> <45DDFC51.7090907@ubuntu.com> <1172536400.10019.132.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <94b38bfa0703010304x6b849dccqda01b5497b89c253@mail.gmail.com> No, IBM canned their desktop product ages ago it seems... I'd really love to know what exactly happen with that, it seems they licensed it off to ScanSoft.. I think that might have had much to do with it. ScanSoft then merged? with Nuance - and took on the nuance name it seems. Chris Hayes On 27/02/07, Jan Claeys wrote: > > On do, 2007-02-22 at 21:25 +0100, Henrik Nilsen Omma wrote: > > Via Voice is outdated on Linux > > Based on what I see on the IBM site, I think it's the same version as on > Windows, *but* there is no desktop-user product for linux based on it > anymore... > > > -- > Jan Claeys > > > -- > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From William.Walker at Sun.COM Thu Mar 1 12:31:28 2007 From: William.Walker at Sun.COM (Willie Walker) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 07:31:28 -0500 Subject: Please provide some updated details. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45E6C7A0.4040405@sun.com> Hi Krishnakant: Sorry to hear about your frustrations with this. Please join and participate in the orca discussion list at http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list -- it's a nice community and we all work together in a friendly way to try to resolve problems. Asking questions early and often can help reduce frustration on your side, and can also give us time to address and resolve problems early in the release cycle. With respect to your specific concerns, accessibility been unstable with recent GNOME releases. We've been working very hard with the accessibility infrastructure and application developers to try to get these resolved for GNOME 2.18. We hope the situation has been improved with this week's GNOME 2.17.92 release, but it might need one more release of the AT-SPI support (v1.17.2) which may not have made it into the GNOME 2.17.92 release. OpenOffice access is doing well, and we keep making incremental improvements to it. Please let us know which version of OpenOffice you are using - it might not be the latest one which contains accessibility enhancements from the OpenOffice team. Firefox will continue to remain a bit of a struggle until the rewrite of the Firefox 3.0's AT-SPI infrastructure is complete. Orca is doing OK with Firefox 3.0 nightly builds at this time, however, but it's not what I would call "compelling access." A user can navigate around many web pages, but we (the Firefox and Orca teams) still have a lot of work to do. I look forward to answering your specific questions and concerns on the Orca list. Thanks! Will Orca Project Lead PS - My apologies if this e-mail is formatted poorly. I'm working with a custom build of Thunderbird from Mozilla CVS and it seems to have some character extents calculation issues. krishnakant Mane wrote: > hello, > I am so sorry to post on the wrong thread. so I am posting with new > subject line. my email follows. > I have been a passive listener on the accessibility issue so far. > I am in the process of setting up the second foss based computer > center for the visually handicap people here in India. > In one of the states called karala, it has become the government > policy to use foss based systems thus gnu/linux has become mandatory > in every institution. > well as of now we have had much trouble using orca and time and again > need to switch back to emacspeak. > while emacs and thus emacspeak is a great desktop at the command line > it does have steep learning curve and if one has to take complete > advantage of all the features in emacspeak they have to take lot of > learning trouble which consumes lot of time. > and then it is not a good thing to force every one to work on the > command line every now and then. > any ways coming to the point, I am wondering whether open office > related issues have been fixt for the up coming version of orca and > ubuntu? > the main problems were responsiveness and font/ attribute identification. > I had herd from a few people that firefox with firevox plugin worked > well with orca but that never happened in my case. > one of my colligue did use it but after some days when he updated orca > and other little things in ubuntu it stopped working. > so what will be the accessibility status of firefox with ubuntu 7.04? > I really want to contribute my services to the visually challenged > people for accessibility in foss because our government is ready to > provide computers to blind students with 90% discount and the only > condition is that they will require to use foss based solutions. > I have been given the responsibility to see to it that things are > working fine in all institutes in my state and that's the reason I am > bothering all of you with my questions. > thanks and regards. > Krishnakant. > From kenny at hittsjunk.net Thu Mar 1 13:48:20 2007 From: kenny at hittsjunk.net (Kenny Hitt) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 07:48:20 -0600 Subject: using apt In-Reply-To: <45E60098.1010901@btinternet.com> References: <45E60098.1010901@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <20070301134820.GB30926@mail.hittsjunk.net> Hi. You might want to consider subscribing to some mailing lists. Since you are running Edgy, edgy-changes would be a good start. That way, you will know when packages in Edgy are updated. You might also consider ubuntu-announce and ubuntu-security-announce. I normally run apt-get update and then apt-get -u dist-upgrade, although, apt-get upgrade is probably enough. Dist-upgrade can remove and install new packages, while upgrade will only upgrade existing packages. The -u in the dist-upgrade command tells apt-get to wait for me to agree to what it is going to do before doing it. Kenny From researchbase at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 14:13:42 2007 From: researchbase at gmail.com (krishnakant Mane) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 19:43:42 +0530 Subject: Please provide some updated details. In-Reply-To: <45E6C7A0.4040405@sun.com> References: <45E6C7A0.4040405@sun.com> Message-ID: hi willi, I am so happy to get such a positive response from you. well I did not ask on the orca mailing list because I know that my questions are too stupid for the linux geeks working on orca. it was very kind of you to answer my questions so patiently and with such positive frame of mind which I do have for orca. talking about open office, which version has the best accessibility? I am particularly focusing on font information and attributes. like in jaws I can hear bold on and bold off when I do those actions on selected text. in addition I can also get the size of the fonts and whether it is bold or italics or underline etc. so kindly tell me which open office version should I use. I have the ubuntu 6.10 installation for my laptop. further more I am wondering if we can have 6.06 work good some how with orca? I am asking this because dapper is long time support and thus rock solid. the other stupid question I keep on thinking and pondering about is if I use firefox 2.0 with firevox plugin will it not be accessible enough to read emails or just surff normal pages? thanks again for your answers. Krishnakant. From kenny at hittsjunk.net Thu Mar 1 14:19:47 2007 From: kenny at hittsjunk.net (Kenny Hitt) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 08:19:47 -0600 Subject: Please provide some updated details. In-Reply-To: References: <45E6C7A0.4040405@sun.com> Message-ID: <20070301141947.GB31028@mail.hittsjunk.net> Hi. I believe you should stick to 6.10 and not try to get Gnome accessibility working on earlier versions of Ubuntu. If I remember, 6.06 is running Gnome 2.14. There were several accessibility issues that were fixed in Gnome 2.16. Kenny From William.Walker at Sun.COM Thu Mar 1 14:28:09 2007 From: William.Walker at Sun.COM (Willie Walker) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 09:28:09 -0500 Subject: Please provide some updated details. In-Reply-To: References: <45E6C7A0.4040405@sun.com> Message-ID: <45E6E2F9.8000905@sun.com> Hi Krishnakant: > I am so happy to get such a positive response from you. > well I did not ask on the orca mailing list because I know that my > questions are too stupid for the linux geeks working on orca. The Orca mailing list is composed more of end users at this point than Linux geeks, and we all try to work together to help each other out. Us Linux geeks on the list then try to take this information back and make appropriate modifications to Orca. > talking about open office, > which version has the best accessibility? I'm going to let Mike Pedersen and Rich Burridge answer that one, as they have been focused on it more than I have (I've been sweating over Firefox while also trying to keep some sort of general direction and focus going for Orca). I think I know the answer, but there's been a little bit of a churn over the past few days so I'm a little confused about the exact facts. > further more I am wondering if we can have 6.06 work good some how with > orca? > I am asking this because dapper is long time support and thus rock solid. For usability with Orca and for some stability on environments us geeks are familiar with, I'd suggest using Solaris Express Developer Edition build 55b (free) or Ubuntu Edgy. Dapper is not going to be a good solution because the GNOME version on it is too old -- we've made a lot of improvement to the accessibility support for GNOME since Dapper was released. You're best bet from there is to grab the latest release of Orca (v2.17.92 as of this writing) or Orca from SVN. I'd also consider grabbing the latest Firefox and OOo pre-release nightly builds since a lot of the work in them includes accessibility fixes/enhancements us Orca folks have been requesting. > the other stupid question I keep on thinking and pondering about is if > I use firefox 2.0 with firevox plugin will it not be accessible enough > to read emails or just surff normal pages? Right now, your best bet for eMail is Evolution. We're working on Thunderbird, but it still remains a little out of our reach. I'm also keeping an eye on FireVox. For us, it has been great to fill a gap for web accessibility as we work out the accessibility story for Firefox 3.0. Charles Chen, the guy developing FireVox, is very excited about it and also has a lot of energy. I wish we could convince him to work on Orca :-). Hope this helps, Will From kb8aey at verizon.net Thu Mar 1 17:10:03 2007 From: kb8aey at verizon.net (mike coulombe) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 11:10:03 -0600 (CST) Subject: just a ideaa Message-ID: <0JE800GM9ICQWNK2@vms042.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, I think it would be a good idea to have the volume control in the preferences menu. Mike. From bhawkeslewis at googlemail.com Thu Mar 1 17:21:36 2007 From: bhawkeslewis at googlemail.com (Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 17:21:36 +0000 Subject: just a ideaa In-Reply-To: <0JE800GM9ICQWNK2@vms042.mailsrvcs.net> References: <0JE800GM9ICQWNK2@vms042.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <1172769696.8368.25.camel@galahad> mike coulombe wrote: > I think it would be a good idea to have the volume control in the preferences menu. It would certainly make sense for it to be part of the Sound settings, which are in the Preferences menu. But I assume this would need to be fixed upstream in Gnome. -- Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis From ca_naushad at yahoo.com Fri Mar 2 05:36:48 2007 From: ca_naushad at yahoo.com (Naushad C A) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:36:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: help needed Message-ID: <677800.23530.qm@web57914.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Hello everybody I am Naushad from India. This is the first time I am posting a mail to this groupe. Yesterday I installed ubuntu 6.1 with orca but it is just giving a message on the startup and sitting there without doing anything. I wish to know wich version of Ubuntu will perfectly work with orca. Please give me all information about orca. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! 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Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited From samuel.thibault at ens-lyon.org Fri Mar 2 09:03:38 2007 From: samuel.thibault at ens-lyon.org (Samuel Thibault) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 10:03:38 +0100 Subject: help needed In-Reply-To: <677800.23530.qm@web57914.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <677800.23530.qm@web57914.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20070302090338.GA3599@implementation.labri.fr> Hi, Naushad C A, le Thu 01 Mar 2007 21:36:48 -0800, a écrit : > Yesterday I installed ubuntu 6.1 with orca but it is just giving a > message on the startup What message? Please remember that if the programmer took the time to write a message, that was for you to report it :) (forget about the uselessness of windows messages, for instance). Samuel From kenny at hittsjunk.net Fri Mar 2 11:08:02 2007 From: kenny at hittsjunk.net (Kenny Hitt) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 05:08:02 -0600 Subject: help needed In-Reply-To: <677800.23530.qm@web57914.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <677800.23530.qm@web57914.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20070302110802.GA32729@mail.hittsjunk.net> Hi. You didn't say what message you are getting from Orca. Unless you start some apps, or tell Gnome to switch focus to a desktop or panel, you won't hear anything from Orca except "Welcome to Orca switching to focus tracking mode". Kenny From kb8aey at verizon.net Fri Mar 2 14:17:46 2007 From: kb8aey at verizon.net (mike coulombe) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 08:17:46 -0600 (CST) Subject: need some help with update manager Message-ID: <0JEA0070M51L1MF6@vms046.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, According to the help file there are preferences that can be set in update manager. How do you get to them using orca. Alt v and so on doesn't bring up any menu. Tab only shows help check and close. Mike. From Rich.Burridge at Sun.COM Fri Mar 2 16:41:44 2007 From: Rich.Burridge at Sun.COM (Rich Burridge) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 08:41:44 -0800 Subject: Please provide some updated details. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45E853C8.1030803@sun.com> Hi Krishnakant, >> talking about open office, >> which version has the best accessibility? >> > > I'm going to let Mike Pedersen and Rich Burridge answer that one, as > they have been focused on it more than I have (I've been sweating over > Firefox while also trying to keep some sort of general direction and > focus going for Orca). I think I know the answer, but there's been a > little bit of a churn over the past few days so I'm a little confused > about the exact facts. > For better support of text attributes in OOo Writer, by Orca, then you'll need OOo 2.2. The slight disadvantage there is that the "smarts" added to the Orca OOo script for doing a much better job with the spell checking dialog in OOo Writer won't work. If you aren't worried about that, then OOo v2.2 is the recommended release. From kb8aey at verizon.net Fri Mar 2 16:57:06 2007 From: kb8aey at verizon.net (mike coulombe) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 10:57:06 -0600 (CST) Subject: need some help Message-ID: <0JEA00BFVCEM7AB6@vms044.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, I must be missing something here because ctrl alt tab doesn't take me to the bottom panel where I can change the volume. This did work in edgy, but for some reason on my computer doesn't in feisty. Any ideas. Mike. From kb8aey at verizon.net Fri Mar 2 17:21:08 2007 From: kb8aey at verizon.net (mike coulombe) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 11:21:08 -0600 (CST) Subject: I need a program Message-ID: <0JEA004D9DJ6H157@vms046.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, the dictionary works well with orca however you have to be online. Is there a dictionary I can download with apt-get that can be used with out going online. I found one called open dic, but it didn't seem to be accessible. Mike. X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 000720-0, 03/01/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean From kenny at hittsjunk.net Fri Mar 2 18:01:56 2007 From: kenny at hittsjunk.net (Kenny Hitt) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 12:01:56 -0600 Subject: I need a program In-Reply-To: <0JEA004D9DJ6H157@vms046.mailsrvcs.net> References: <0JEA004D9DJ6H157@vms046.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <20070302180156.GA1453@mail.hittsjunk.net> Hi. Have you tried dict? Kenny From lubos.pintes at orangemail.sk Sat Mar 3 17:11:51 2007 From: lubos.pintes at orangemail.sk (Lubos Pintes) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 18:11:51 +0100 Subject: ubuntu on my laptop is working! Message-ID: <002b01c75db7$093009d0$0b01a8c0@xy> Hello, I have asus a6rp ap050. I downloaded live CD from two days ago. I am very pleased, sound is working without problem. Also orca with braille display. I did not test it very seriously, I must still learn gnome and orca. Only f5 and option 4 from boot menu is not working yet. I tested it as follows: I pressed f5, 4, Enter. f6, "hpet=disable" Enter. Then after a while u, Enter 0, Enter al, Enter Nothing happened. I had to start brltty manually, then ran and configure orca. Logged off, started orca through aalt+f2. From researchbase at gmail.com Sun Mar 4 13:47:53 2007 From: researchbase at gmail.com (krishnakant Mane) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 19:17:53 +0530 Subject: Please provide some updated details. In-Reply-To: <45E6E2F9.8000905@sun.com> References: <45E6C7A0.4040405@sun.com> <45E6E2F9.8000905@sun.com> Message-ID: ok, so I need to install open office 2.2 on ubuntu 6.10 for best available accessibility is it right? if so then will just apt-get install get me the right version? and as of firefox 3 will I need to setup some thing in my system? till date I have mostly depended on apt-get so will I get the right firefox version for orca? and should I do apt-get install gnome-orca for the latest version of orca or is it needed to be compiled from source? I also get the impression that espeak works better with orca as far as the responsiveness is concerned. if that is so can some one give me some steps to get espeak working with orca. I don't have espeak running on my machine right now but I tested it on windows and it seams to be very responsive. thanks, Krishnakant. From kenny at hittsjunk.net Sun Mar 4 14:29:07 2007 From: kenny at hittsjunk.net (Kenny Hitt) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 08:29:07 -0600 Subject: Please provide some updated details. In-Reply-To: References: <45E6C7A0.4040405@sun.com> <45E6E2F9.8000905@sun.com> Message-ID: <20070304142907.GA23006@mail.hittsjunk.net> Hi. Unless you are willing to upgrade to Feisty, apt-get won't help you with Open Office, espeak, the gnome-speech espeak driver, or gnome-orca. If you stay with Edgy, you will need to build from source. There is an espeak package in Edgy, but it isn't recent enough for your needs. I run Feisty, so the espeak driver already exists for me as a Ubuntu package. I know there is a link with instructions on how to get it working from source, but I don't have it available here. There isn't a Firefox 3 package in Ubuntu yet, so you will need to download a nightly build from: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-trunk/ Kenny On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 07:17:53PM +0530, krishnakant Mane wrote: > ok, > so I need to install open office 2.2 on ubuntu 6.10 for best available > accessibility is it right? > if so then will just apt-get install get me the right version? > and as of firefox 3 will I need to setup some thing in my system? > till date I have mostly depended on apt-get so will I get the right > firefox version for orca? > and should I do apt-get install gnome-orca for the latest version of > orca or is it needed to be compiled from source? > I also get the impression that espeak works better with orca as far as > the responsiveness is concerned. if that is so can some one give me > some steps to get espeak working with orca. > I don't have espeak running on my machine right now but I tested it on > windows and it seams to be very responsive. > thanks, > Krishnakant. > > -- > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility From kenny at hittsjunk.net Sun Mar 4 19:14:03 2007 From: kenny at hittsjunk.net (Kenny Hitt) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 13:14:03 -0600 Subject: OT getting files added to a Ubuntu package Message-ID: <20070304191403.GA23570@mail.hittsjunk.net> Hi. I recently noticed there wasn't a way for speechd-up to start automatically. I created a udev rule to start speechd-up in daemon mode. What is the procedure to get this rule included in the speechd-up package? Thanks in advance for information. Kenny From themuso at themuso.com Sun Mar 4 21:05:23 2007 From: themuso at themuso.com (Luke Yelavich) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 08:05:23 +1100 Subject: OT getting files added to a Ubuntu package In-Reply-To: <20070304191403.GA23570@mail.hittsjunk.net> References: <20070304191403.GA23570@mail.hittsjunk.net> Message-ID: <20070304210522.GA5191@linden.yelavich.home> On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 06:14:03AM EST, Kenny Hitt wrote: > Hi. > > I recently noticed there wasn't a way for speechd-up to start > automatically. I created a udev rule to start speechd-up in daemon > mode. > What is the procedure to get this rule included in the speechd-up > package? > > Thanks in advance for information. If you send me a copy, I will look it over, and drop it into the package, and upload a new revision. -- Luke Yelavich GPG key: 0xD06320CE (http://www.themuso.com/themuso-gpg-key.txt) Email & MSN: themuso at themuso.com Jabber: themuso at jabber.org.au -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From William.Walker at Sun.COM Mon Mar 5 15:27:25 2007 From: William.Walker at Sun.COM (Willie Walker) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 10:27:25 -0500 Subject: Orca branched for gnome-2-18 Message-ID: <45EC36DD.8050603@sun.com> Per the instructions at http://live.gnome.org/MaintainersCorner, we have created a new branch of Orca for GNOME 2.18. Note to you wonderful translators who are still working away, I'm not sure of the appropriate svn terminology to describe the revisions at the time I made the branch. Here's the commands I typed: $ svn stat $ svn update At revision 2094. $ svn cp svn+ssh://svn.gnome.org/svn/orca/trunk \ svn+ssh://svn.gnome.org/svn/orca/branches/gnome-2-18 Committed revision 2095. Aside from any critical show stoppers that might come up between now and the release of GNOME 2.18, we don't expect to make any further code changes to Orca for GNOME 2.18. Development will continue on trunk, however, and our main focus for GNOME 2.19/2.20 includes the following areas: * Continued work with the Firefox and Thunderbird teams to provide more compelling access to the Web and E-mail. * Address the i18n/l10n picture. We will make it a high priority goal to work with the i18n/l10n teams to address these for GNOME 2.19/2.20. Bug 412200 will be used to track this. Please be nice. We really want to do a good job here. * Continued work on features/requirements which are in the specification but not implemented yet. We track all of these at http://bugzilla.gnome.org/buglist.cgi?query=product%3Aorca. * "Rear view mirror" refactoring to clean up some of the cruftier portions of the code. This may also include the ability to better support multilingual text. * Continued development of the test harness, code coverage analysis, and regression tests for Orca. Thanks! Will From kb8aey at verizon.net Mon Mar 5 16:38:39 2007 From: kb8aey at verizon.net (mike coulombe) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 10:38:39 -0600 (CST) Subject: has it ben fixed Message-ID: <0JEF00L8LVKCPMZ8@vms040.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, I notice orca now says more when I try to use users and groups. It asks for the admin password. However it never excepts the one I enter. This is the same one I use to login so what is going on? Mike. X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 000721-1, 03/03/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean From William.Walker at Sun.COM Mon Mar 5 16:51:10 2007 From: William.Walker at Sun.COM (Willie Walker) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 11:51:10 -0500 Subject: has it ben fixed In-Reply-To: <0JEF00L8LVKCPMZ8@vms040.mailsrvcs.net> References: <0JEF00L8LVKCPMZ8@vms040.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <45EC4A7E.5020502@sun.com> Hey Mike: Glad to hear you're getting farther. Is it possible your Caps Lock key might be on? Will mike coulombe wrote: > Hi, I notice orca now says more when I try to use users and groups. > It asks for the admin password. > However it never excepts the one I enter. > This is the same one I use to login so what is going on? > Mike. > X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 000721-1, 03/03/2007), Outbound message > X-Antivirus-Status: Clean > > > From steppenwolf2 at onlinehome.de Mon Mar 5 16:00:05 2007 From: steppenwolf2 at onlinehome.de (hermann) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 17:00:05 +0100 Subject: Orca branched for gnome-2-18 In-Reply-To: <45EC36DD.8050603@sun.com> References: <45EC36DD.8050603@sun.com> Message-ID: <1173110405.5111.39.camel@ubuntu> Just one question: Can I use Orca 2.18 in Ubuntu Edgy, which, I guess, works under Gnome 2.16? Hermann From krister at kristersplace.ws Wed Mar 7 11:21:19 2007 From: krister at kristersplace.ws (Krister Ekstrom) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 12:21:19 +0100 Subject: Weird upgrading problem Message-ID: <45EEA02F.7060607@kristersplace.ws> Hey all, I was trying to upgrade my Feisty to the latest version this morning when to my surprice i encountered a strange little problem. I noticed that the upgrading procedure, (made with the command aptitude dist-upgrade) had stopped so i went to check the screen and there was a dialog that said: "Configuring X11Common Incorrect nice value Please enter an integer between -20 and 19." Well, here comes the strange part because there was no edit box to fill in the value in, and typing numbers on the keyboard didn't give any result, the only keys that worked were spacebar and enter key and they only produced the same dialog. Fortunately this is Linux, so there must be a text file that can be altered in some way. What file has the config settings for X11-common and if there isn't a text file after all, what if anything can i do in order for things to install as normal and do you want me to provide any other info? Thanks for any help here. /Krister From themuso at themuso.com Wed Mar 7 12:00:37 2007 From: themuso at themuso.com (Luke Yelavich) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 23:00:37 +1100 Subject: Weird upgrading problem In-Reply-To: <45EEA02F.7060607@kristersplace.ws> References: <45EEA02F.7060607@kristersplace.ws> Message-ID: <20070307120036.GA32660@linden.yelavich.home> On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 10:21:19PM EST, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > Hey all, > I was trying to upgrade my Feisty to the latest version this morning > when to my surprice i encountered a strange little problem. I noticed > that the upgrading procedure, (made with the command aptitude > dist-upgrade) had stopped so i went to check the screen and there was a > dialog that said: "Configuring X11Common > Incorrect nice value > Please enter an integer between -20 and 19." Known about, and already fixed. Please wait a few hours, and try updating again. -- Luke Yelavich GPG key: 0xD06320CE (http://www.themuso.com/themuso-gpg-key.txt) Email & MSN: themuso at themuso.com Jabber: themuso at jabber.org.au -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From michaelweaver1 at btinternet.com Wed Mar 7 23:08:15 2007 From: michaelweaver1 at btinternet.com (MICHAEL WEAVER) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 23:08:15 +0000 Subject: errors connecting to wired broadband Message-ID: <45EF45DF.7090403@btinternet.com> I have been trying to use my wired Broadband MODEM which I use on my desktop PC in Windows on my laptop until I can get my Desktop PC running Edgy on the Hard drive I bought. However I keep getting error messages when I plug in the MODEM into the port on my Compaq laptop. I get an error message when trying to download messages in Evolution because it tells me it is unable to download, I can't seem to ping any address and w3m says "can't load" and whatever the page I am trying to open. I was told that Network Manager is a difficult application to set up and that I wouldn't need it but I can't understand why if that is the case my connection to my BT account is not being recognised which means I will have to wait until possibly April before I can access the Internet via my wireless network card which does work in Ubuntu. Before I had problems trying to change my software synth my laptop did appear to access the Network using my BT Voyager MODEM which meaned I was able to update packages so there must be something which someone set when it did work which did allow me to make a switch from Wireless to wired unless this person used Network Manager I had tried to install which was why both connection types were recognised. I looked in Network Settings and the other place it might be in Gnome but if it was something that had been set to get it to work I don't understand enough about Ubuntu to be able to find it. From s.bienlein at gmx.de Thu Mar 8 11:38:32 2007 From: s.bienlein at gmx.de (Simon Bienlein) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 12:38:32 +0100 Subject: Herd 5: Orca is not started Message-ID: <003001c76176$4d7e8180$c864a8c0@simonlaptop> Hi, I tested Herd 5 with my laptop and noticed that Orca cannot be started. After the Orca setup I logged out and in again. Now I pressed Alt+F2 and entered the command orca. Orca did not speak and on the Braille display was nothing new either. I cannot tell whether there was a problem report or not. It would be nice if the Braille support could be improved. Simon From bethko at gmail.com Thu Mar 8 21:49:39 2007 From: bethko at gmail.com (Beth Koenig) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 13:49:39 -0800 Subject: Herd 5: Orca is not started In-Reply-To: <003001c76176$4d7e8180$c864a8c0@simonlaptop> References: <003001c76176$4d7e8180$c864a8c0@simonlaptop> Message-ID: <8ac229cc0703081349t35420f8fle8c87c1b3d33a735@mail.gmail.com> I had the same problem on Herd 4. On the live cd I can't get braille or speech. Even with Alt F2 and doing it manually. It says something about the adaptive technology thing not working. Can someone tell us if this has been reported and if it has been fixed on the daily build yet? I don't have a lot of cds that I can just burn through testing builds. Please, update people on what is going on. I have an older display I want to test out. And I would like to have everything working by release day as I don't want to wait another 6 months before a release is completely accessible to the general public. That's a big selling point you know. -- Beth Koenig bethko at gmail.com Director of Deaf Blind Services Orange County Deaf Advocacy Center http://www.deafadvocacy.org/dbs Health, safety, and productivity are the cornerstones of independence. At the Orange County Deaf Advocacy Center we provide the training and services necessary for the deaf and disabled to achieve equally and independence in all areas of life. Orange County Deaf Advocacy Center Donate: https://www.networkforgood.org/donate/MakeDonation2.aspx?ORGID2=330806007&PcaItemId=400 On 3/8/07, Simon Bienlein wrote: > Hi, > > I tested Herd 5 with my laptop and noticed that Orca cannot be started. > After the Orca setup I logged out and in again. Now I pressed Alt+F2 and > entered the command orca. Orca did not speak and on the Braille display > was nothing new either. I cannot tell whether there was a problem report > or not. > > It would be nice if the Braille support could be improved. > > Simon > > > > -- > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility > From kb8aey at verizon.net Fri Mar 9 21:39:49 2007 From: kb8aey at verizon.net (mike coulombe) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 15:39:49 -0600 (CST) Subject: just a question Message-ID: <0JEN001PWO6CL1B1@vms048.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, I noticed after todays update the device manager isn't axcessable anymore. What is going on. It seems more and more of the aps are no longer working with orca. Mike. X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 000722-4, 03/09/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean From William.Walker at Sun.COM Fri Mar 9 22:43:20 2007 From: William.Walker at Sun.COM (Willie Walker) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 17:43:20 -0500 Subject: just a question In-Reply-To: <0JEN001PWO6CL1B1@vms048.mailsrvcs.net> References: <0JEN001PWO6CL1B1@vms048.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <45F1E308.2050002@sun.com> Hi Mike: I need more information to be able to help. What was involved in "today's update" for you? Was is Feisty? Was it Orca? If it was Orca, was it from the trunk or from the gnome-2-18 branch? Did you change anything else? In addition, what specific actions do you use to launch the device manager? Will mike coulombe wrote: > Hi, I noticed after todays update the device manager isn't axcessable anymore. > What is going on. It seems more and more of the aps are no longer working with orca. > Mike. > X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 000722-4, 03/09/2007), Outbound message > X-Antivirus-Status: Clean > > > From lists at janc.be Mon Mar 12 20:05:06 2007 From: lists at janc.be (Jan Claeys) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:05:06 +0100 Subject: I need a program In-Reply-To: <0JEA004D9DJ6H157@vms046.mailsrvcs.net> References: <0JEA004D9DJ6H157@vms046.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <1173729906.29670.52.camel@localhost> On vr, 2007-03-02 at 11:21 -0600, mike coulombe wrote: > Hi, the dictionary works well with orca however you have to be online. > Is there a dictionary I can download with apt-get that can be used with out going online. > I found one called open dic, but it didn't seem to be accessible. You can run your own local dictionary server on your computer by installing the 'dictd' package: sudo apt-get install dictd The data files for the actual dictionaries are all in packages that start with "dict-". -- Jan Claeys From kb8aey at verizon.net Mon Mar 12 23:31:06 2007 From: kb8aey at verizon.net (mike coulombe) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:31:06 -0500 (CDT) Subject: a question about gnome Message-ID: <0JET00FQJDBTCP13@vms044.mailsrvcs.net> I noticed today this no longer works for some reason. Something happens because speech is gone, but the computer never comes up to the sound for login. If no one else is having this problem maybe I will get the latest live CD and re install. This is on a old computer I use for trying ubuntu. So re installing is no problem. Mike. From kb8aey at verizon.net Thu Mar 15 18:00:43 2007 From: kb8aey at verizon.net (mike coulombe) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:00:43 -0500 (CDT) Subject: orca Message-ID: <0JEY00DEII17MML8@vms044.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, I noticed after getting updates today for some reason insert space doesn't bring up the orca preferences. Has anyone else had this problem. Mike. From michaelweaver1 at btinternet.com Thu Mar 15 19:35:26 2007 From: michaelweaver1 at btinternet.com (MICHAEL WEAVER) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:35:26 +0000 Subject: accessing gnucash with orca Message-ID: <45F99FFE.7080700@btinternet.com> I have just been looking at Gnucash with orca. Most of the fields seem navigable with the tab and shift tab keys and using some of the Orca keys I can do mouse clicks with it. However I have a couple of problems. One is navigating the accounts list when trying to set up sub accounts in the accounts list. The other problem I have is trying to schedule transactions. Does anyone have any suggestions for these things? I haven't quite managed to find out how to set up an accessible account structure although Orca does read some account names and I can't seem to find the fields in the Schedule for making transfers where you can type in your ammounts you want to transfer from one account to another and the other schedule details like occurences. From kb8aey at verizon.net Thu Mar 15 21:28:38 2007 From: kb8aey at verizon.net (mike coulombe) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:28:38 -0500 (CDT) Subject: need some info Message-ID: <0JEY00BG9RNQXMB1@vms048.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, I have heard a lot about firefox the last few days. How do I get this latest version in binary format. I would like to give it a try this sounds interesting. Mike. From freddymartinez9 at ubuntu.com Thu Mar 15 21:39:49 2007 From: freddymartinez9 at ubuntu.com (Freddy Martinez) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:39:49 -0500 Subject: need some info In-Reply-To: <0JEY00BG9RNQXMB1@vms048.mailsrvcs.net> References: <0JEY00BG9RNQXMB1@vms048.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: Mike, I am forwarding your email to the Mozilla Team, they may be able to answer your question as well. On 3/15/07, mike coulombe wrote: > > Hi, I have heard a lot about firefox the last few days. > How do I get this latest version in binary format. > I would like to give it a try this sounds interesting. > Mike. > > -- > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility > -- Best, Freddy Martinez Kubuntu. Linux for human beings. www.chi.ubuntu-us.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It sounds like you may have switched your keyboard mode for orca to laptop mode. Try pressing capslock plus space to get to the preferences. Alternatively, if you haven't disabled the orca window, you can switch to that window and choose the preferences button. -- Luke Yelavich GPG key: 0xD06320CE (http://www.themuso.com/themuso-gpg-key.txt) Email & MSN: themuso at themuso.com Jabber: themuso at jabber.org.au -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I would need version number. > > - -- Thanks, GnomeFreak https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JohnVivirito https://launchpad.net/people/gnomefreak http://freewebs.com/ubuntufreak Linux User# 414246 Ubuntu User# 8175 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF+dmuqig4QTwcPCoRApFnAJ49v4r09GPEPybBuARmYjy1Zg8SwgCfUYY1 hGrJTirwzybI+MwkQD7fVD0= =iXOm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From labrad0r at edpnet.be Fri Mar 16 08:59:16 2007 From: labrad0r at edpnet.be (Labrador) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:59:16 +0100 Subject: A CLEAR sUBJECT Please! Was:Re: need some info In-Reply-To: <1174029653.17687.0.camel@galahad> References: <0JEY00BG9RNQXMB1@vms048.mailsrvcs.net> <1174029653.17687.0.camel@galahad> Message-ID: <20070316085916.GA2487@starfish> Please isn't it possible to do a little effort with providing a clear subject: I see too much "just an info" / "just a question" etc: how is this info or question going about? and, please, think about how we could find useful info and answers later in the archive if all people begisn to post such unrelevant subjects ? ? ? (I currently miss a [ubuntu-a11y] label, so please take care about providing a clear subject). Thanks. Labrador From ca_naushad at yahoo.com Fri Mar 16 12:16:14 2007 From: ca_naushad at yahoo.com (Naushad C A) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 05:16:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Need help Message-ID: <320919.97966.qm@web57902.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Hello friends I am naushad from india, On the current firefox is not working with orca, how can I solve this problem. ____________________________________________________________________________________ TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ From freddymartinez9 at ubuntu.com Fri Mar 16 17:07:12 2007 From: freddymartinez9 at ubuntu.com (Freddy Martinez) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:07:12 -0600 Subject: Need help In-Reply-To: <320919.97966.qm@web57902.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <320919.97966.qm@web57902.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Which version are you using? Can anyone reproduce on the Mozilla Team? On 3/16/07, Naushad C A wrote: > > Hello friends I am naushad from india, > On the current firefox is not working with orca, > how can I solve this problem. > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > TV dinner still cooling? > Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. > http://tv.yahoo.com/ > > -- > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility > -- Best, Freddy Martinez Kubuntu. Linux for human beings. www.chi.ubuntu-us.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jdashiel at shellworld.net Sat Mar 17 09:25:11 2007 From: jdashiel at shellworld.net (Jude DaShiell) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 05:25:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: basic screen reader question Message-ID: I noticed when gnopernicus is used with speech enabled typing the ls command doesn't get any file names or directories spoken. Is the program not yet correctly configured or do I need to use something else to get ls speaking? Before I ask anymore basic questions, does this mailing list have an up-to-date faq file I can read? From bhawkeslewis at googlemail.com Sat Mar 17 13:31:37 2007 From: bhawkeslewis at googlemail.com (Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 13:31:37 +0000 Subject: basic screen reader question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1174138297.17687.35.camel@galahad> Active screen reader development is now ongoing with Orca not Gnopernicus. Does Gnopernicus allow you to do something Orca does not? -- Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis From jdashiel at shellworld.net Sat Mar 17 22:27:45 2007 From: jdashiel at shellworld.net (Jude DaShiell) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 18:27:45 -0400 (EDT) Subject: basic screen reader question In-Reply-To: <1174138297.17687.35.camel@galahad> References: <1174138297.17687.35.camel@galahad> Message-ID: This is a new ubuntu installation that started out with version 6.04 and upgraded to 6.10. Gnopernicus in earlier instances of ubuntu livecd use was lots easier to start than orca is when the rest of the supporting bits would work. I never did manage to do an independent ubuntu installation with gnopernicus or orca yet when I had orca on other disks. On Sat, 17 Mar 2007, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis wrote: > Active screen reader development is now ongoing with Orca not > Gnopernicus. Does Gnopernicus allow you to do something Orca does not? > > -- > Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis > From kb8aey at verizon.net Sun Mar 18 03:11:19 2007 From: kb8aey at verizon.net (mike coulombe) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 22:11:19 -0500 (CDT) Subject: hears some info that may be useful to some people. Message-ID: <0JF200BEIWUVXJ88@vms048.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, for anyone using dosemu to play text adventure games. I found yasr seems to work a little better. Orca does work, but for some reason your last move is repeated several times. For example n might say you are on the porch. When you press s you hear the same thing again. This didn't happen using yasr in the game I played. I just thought this may be useful to anyone who uses dosemu. Mike. From kb8aey at verizon.net Sun Mar 18 20:01:56 2007 From: kb8aey at verizon.net (mike coulombe) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 15:01:56 -0500 (CDT) Subject: need help with dictd packages. Message-ID: <0JF400GBJ7N8EQV9@vms046.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, when I install dict things work fine, but you have to be online. I installed the dictd packages assuming these were the dictionaries. However after this it never finds any words I look up. Is there something I have to do to configure this. Mike. From daniel.holbach at ubuntu.com Tue Mar 20 10:19:43 2007 From: daniel.holbach at ubuntu.com (Daniel Holbach) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 11:19:43 +0100 Subject: need help with dictd packages. In-Reply-To: <0JF400GBJ7N8EQV9@vms046.mailsrvcs.net> References: <0JF400GBJ7N8EQV9@vms046.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <1174385983.6308.16.camel@bert> Hello Mike, Am Sonntag, den 18.03.2007, 15:01 -0500 schrieb mike coulombe: > Hi, when I install dict things work fine, > but you have to be online. > I installed the dictd packages assuming these were the dictionaries. > However after this it never finds any words I look up. > Is there something I have to do to configure this. can you please use the answers tracker for that? https://answers.launchpad.net/ - it's a general support question and has nothing to do with accessibility. Have a nice day, Daniel -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil URL: From jdashiel at shellworld.net Tue Mar 20 23:25:15 2007 From: jdashiel at shellworld.net (Jude DaShiell) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 19:25:15 -0400 (EDT) Subject: gnopernicus problem solved Message-ID: I installed gnome-orca and removed gnopernicus last night. I also managed to use aptitude to update the system and do a dist-upgrade on it too. The ls command output now actually speaks. having managed to download and install system-config-kickstart and run it for some reason maybe it didn't have focus when it started running the program didn't start talking immediately. I found synaptic inaccessible but that's no loss with aptitude available. This weekend I need to do some more exploration. From rkcole72984 at gmail.com Thu Mar 22 02:45:34 2007 From: rkcole72984 at gmail.com (Robert Cole) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 19:45:34 -0700 Subject: Questions regarding screen magnification using gnome-mag (Ubuntu 6.10) Message-ID: <4601EDCE.7000900@gmail.com> Hello, everyone. Just a day ago I reinstalled Ubuntu Edgy because of wireless issues. After solving the problem with wireless, I decided to upgrade Orca to v2.17.92 and I updated gnome-mag-0.14.1 (I just saw that v0.14.3 was available at the GNOME FTP site). The Orca/gnome-mag source compiled successfully without a hitch. I tried to set the zoom factor boundaries for top/bottom in Orca to obtain full-screen magnification, but I found that it did not work. This worked before when I had Orca v2.17.1 in my previous Ubuntu Edgy installation. Did I do something wrong? During the compilation of both source files I did: sudo ./configure --prefix=/usr (to override previous versions) sudo make -----> for Orca sudo make all -----> for gnome-mag sudo make install I just realized that I could solely use gnome-mag by entering options into the command-line. I used the following configuration: magnifier -hmz 5.0 I realized, however, that the magnified portion was at the bottom of the screen (with crosshairs). Is there a way to invert the magnified/un-magnified windows so that the magnified portion is at the top of the screen? And is there a way, via the command-line, to remove the crosshairs? ONce I figure this out I can then create a launcher for the magnifier. One more question (I apologize for the long e-mail), but I noticed that there si a large white/grey space surrounding the desktop window (when using gnome-mag via the command terminal). Is this normal? I think that once I can get this all figured out, I can finally (permanently) move over to Linux. gnome-mag has come a long way since I started using it back in October last year; it si almost capable (if not completely) of doing what ZoomText in Windows does. I'm very grateful to all of you working on this project. Thank you. From kb8aey at verizon.net Fri Mar 23 19:58:01 2007 From: kb8aey at verizon.net (mike coulombe) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 14:58:01 -0500 (CDT) Subject: has anyone had this problem Message-ID: <0JFD00EBEGSOXE65@vms046.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, I downloaded the latest live CD to day and had the same problem I have been having the last few days. After doing the setup for orca it asks if I want to log out. I say yes but it doesn't log out. The problem I have is alt ctrl and backspace doesn't seem to force quit gnome like it use to. Has there been a keyboard command change for this. Mike. X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 000727-0, 03/22/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean From jdashiel at shellworld.net Fri Mar 23 23:38:24 2007 From: jdashiel at shellworld.net (Jude DaShiell) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 19:38:24 -0400 (EDT) Subject: who needs what tested? Message-ID: Now that I have ubuntu installed, who needs what tested? I haven't yet installed lsr but may do that in time. From kenny at hittsjunk.net Sat Mar 24 08:54:27 2007 From: kenny at hittsjunk.net (Kenny Hitt) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 03:54:27 -0500 Subject: has anyone had this problem In-Reply-To: <0JFD00EBEGSOXE65@vms046.mailsrvcs.net> References: <0JFD00EBEGSOXE65@vms046.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <20070324085427.GA31614@hittsjunk.net> Hi. I saw the same problem on the live cd from March 16. My solution was to answer no to the logout question and then log out manually from the menu. Kenny On Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 02:58:01PM -0500, mike coulombe wrote: > Hi, I downloaded the latest live CD to day and had the same problem I have been having the last few days. > After doing the setup for orca it asks if I want to log out. > I say yes but it doesn't log out. > The problem I have is alt ctrl and backspace doesn't seem to force quit gnome like it use to. > Has there been a keyboard command change for this. > Mike. > X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 000727-0, 03/22/2007), Outbound message > X-Antivirus-Status: Clean > > > -- > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility From kb8aey at verizon.net Sat Mar 24 14:53:59 2007 From: kb8aey at verizon.net (mike coulombe) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 09:53:59 -0500 (CDT) Subject: is there a command to log out from the main menu Message-ID: <0JFE001MZXDZQ6M4@vms042.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, the problem with logging out from the main menu is there is no speech after answering no to that question. Is there a keyboard command I can use to logout. I didn't see one in the gnome shortcuts, except for the ctrl alt backspace which no longer works. Mike. From kenny at hittsjunk.net Sat Mar 24 15:09:06 2007 From: kenny at hittsjunk.net (Kenny Hitt) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 10:09:06 -0500 Subject: is there a command to log out from the main menu In-Reply-To: <0JFE001MZXDZQ6M4@vms042.mailsrvcs.net> References: <0JFE001MZXDZQ6M4@vms042.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <20070324150906.GB31614@hittsjunk.net> Hi. Here's how I log out. Press alt-f1 to open the main menu. Press left arrow once to goto the system menu. Press up arrow once to select "logout". Press enter to activate the logout dialog. Press alt-l to choose the logout buttin in the dialog. Hope this helps. Kenny On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 09:53:59AM -0500, mike coulombe wrote: > Hi, the problem with logging out from the main menu is there is no speech after answering no to that question. > Is there a keyboard command I can use to logout. > I didn't see one in the gnome shortcuts, > except for the ctrl alt backspace which no longer works. > Mike. > > -- > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility From jdashiel at shellworld.net Sat Mar 24 22:27:22 2007 From: jdashiel at shellworld.net (Jude DaShiell) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 18:27:22 -0400 (EDT) Subject: recommended post-install tasks for ubuntu and orca users? Message-ID: 1) as root run updatedb to build and update the locate data base, 2) as root edit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment all repositories on the list, 3) as root run aptitude update to get a current data base of available packages, 4) as root run aptitude dist-upgrade to do an aggressive upgrade of as many packages to current versions as possible, 5) as root do shutdown -h now and restart the system to take advantage of all of those updates, Anyone have items to add to this list? From kb8aey at verizon.net Mon Mar 26 16:30:21 2007 From: kb8aey at verizon.net (mike coulombe) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 11:30:21 -0500 (CDT) Subject: a problem with time and date Message-ID: <0JFI002X9R6KRAG0@vms044.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, under edgy Time was accessible. However I notice it still isn't under feisty. Is this something that will be fixed in the future. Or do we have to wait for a new release before this problem is addressed. I tried on three computers and got the same results each time. As I remember I didn't have to enter a password in edgy. It now asks for the password and speech is lost after that point. I did try running this tool from terminal, but that didn't work. I then tried using yasr, but after the accessibility module initialized speech went crazy. I do understand a lot of work is being done on firefox and other programs at this point, but I think the admin tools are very important to people. Especially to anyone who has to configure their system. I for example need to set the time on my computer and can't. Don't misunderstand, I have seen a lot of progress made. The terminal doesn't crash anymore and many other programs work better. I was just wondering what if any progress is being made on getting the admin tools to work with orca from their menu. It's hard to show ubuntu and always be asked about these tools. Mike. From kenny at hittsjunk.net Mon Mar 26 17:43:19 2007 From: kenny at hittsjunk.net (Kenny Hitt) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 12:43:19 -0500 Subject: a problem with time and date In-Reply-To: <0JFI002X9R6KRAG0@vms044.mailsrvcs.net> References: <0JFI002X9R6KRAG0@vms044.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <20070326174319.GB2596@hittsjunk.net> Hi. Although getting access to the admin tools will be nice, I would rather see effort spent on Firefox accessibility. I have been running Linux for years, so doing admin tasks in the terminal isn't a problem for me while I have web sites I can't access in Linux yet. To answer your problem, use the ntpdate command to set your time with a ntp server. If you don't want to do it that way, use the date command in a terminal to set the date. To learn more, man date or man ntpdate. Kenny On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 11:30:21AM -0500, mike coulombe wrote: > Hi, under edgy Time was accessible. > However I notice it still isn't under feisty. > Is this something that will be fixed in the future. > Or do we have to wait for a new release before this problem is addressed. > I tried on three computers and got the same results each time. > As I remember I didn't have to enter a password in edgy. > It now asks for the password and speech is lost after that point. > I did try running this tool from terminal, but that didn't work. > I then tried using yasr, but after the accessibility module initialized speech went crazy. > I do understand a lot of work is being done on firefox and other programs at this point, > but I think the admin tools are very important to people. > Especially to anyone who has to configure their system. > I for example need to set the time on my computer and can't. > Don't misunderstand, I have seen a lot of progress made. > The terminal doesn't crash anymore and many other programs work better. > I was just wondering what if any progress is being made on getting the admin tools to work with orca from their menu. > It's hard to show ubuntu and always be asked about these tools. > Mike. > > -- > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility From William.Walker at Sun.COM Mon Mar 26 17:59:04 2007 From: William.Walker at Sun.COM (Willie Walker) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 13:59:04 -0400 Subject: Need help In-Reply-To: <320919.97966.qm@web57902.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <320919.97966.qm@web57902.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <460809E8.2030309@sun.com> Hi Naushad: Thanks for your interest in Orca! This URL might help with Firefox: http://live.gnome.org/Orca/Firefox. In addition, I'd also suggest joining the Orca mailing list to carry on discussions specific to Orca -- we're friendly and you can find mailing list information at http://live.gnome.org/Orca. Will Naushad C A wrote: > Hello friends I am naushad from india, > On the current firefox is not working with orca, > how can I solve this problem. > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > TV dinner still cooling? > Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. > http://tv.yahoo.com/ > > From kb8aey at verizon.net Mon Mar 26 19:14:59 2007 From: kb8aey at verizon.net (mike coulombe) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 14:14:59 -0500 (CDT) Subject: I see it has been fixed. Message-ID: <0JFI00MJWYSYKES0@vms040.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, I noticed the alt crtl backspace has been fixed. Gnome now returns to the login screen. Thanks for fixing this. I found that a handy feature.Good job. Mike. X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 000728-0, 03/26/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean From s.bienlein at gmx.de Tue Mar 27 09:56:37 2007 From: s.bienlein at gmx.de (Simon Bienlein) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 11:56:37 +0200 Subject: Beta version of Feisty Fawn: problems with BRLTTY and Orca Message-ID: <001e01c77056$36b294c0$c864a8c0@simonlaptop> Hi, I tested the beta version with my Braille display that is connected to the laptop via USB. BRLTTY was started and accepted the Braille display. I wanted to switch to the virtual console with Alt+F1 in order to start Orca. I was not shown a prompt. Thus, I switched to Gnome with Alt+F7 and pressed Alt+F2. Then, I entered orca and ran through the setup with the voice output. Subsequently, I answered the question whether I would like to logout with 'yes'. I did not hear a drumbeat and was not logged out and in properly. As I acted on the assumption of a problem report I pressed Enter. With Alt+F1 I was able to switch to the console, where, however, I still was not shown a prompt. It would be nice if this problem could be solved. At the moment it seems like one cannot test Orca at all. Simon From themuso at themuso.com Tue Mar 27 10:12:53 2007 From: themuso at themuso.com (Luke Yelavich) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 20:12:53 +1000 Subject: Beta version of Feisty Fawn: problems with BRLTTY and Orca In-Reply-To: <001e01c77056$36b294c0$c864a8c0@simonlaptop> References: <001e01c77056$36b294c0$c864a8c0@simonlaptop> Message-ID: <20070327101253.GA11171@linden.yelavich.home> On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 07:56:37PM EST, Simon Bienlein wrote: > Hi, > > I tested the beta version with my Braille display that is connected to > the laptop via USB. BRLTTY was started and accepted the Braille display. How did you start the live CD? Did you choose any of the options from the Accessibility boot menu? -- Luke Yelavich GPG key: 0xD06320CE (http://www.themuso.com/themuso-gpg-key.txt) Email & MSN: themuso at themuso.com Jabber: themuso at jabber.org.au -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From samuel.thibault at ens-lyon.org Tue Mar 27 11:58:45 2007 From: samuel.thibault at ens-lyon.org (Samuel Thibault) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 13:58:45 +0200 Subject: Beta version of Feisty Fawn: problems with BRLTTY and Orca In-Reply-To: <001e01c77056$36b294c0$c864a8c0@simonlaptop> References: <001e01c77056$36b294c0$c864a8c0@simonlaptop> Message-ID: <20070327115845.GA3591@implementation.labri.fr> Hi, Simon Bienlein, le Tue 27 Mar 2007 11:56:37 +0200, a écrit : > I wanted to switch to the virtual console with Alt+F1 in order to start > Orca. I was not shown a prompt. I can confirm this: they seem to have _dropped_ the text console logins... To my mind, this really has to be reverted. Samuel From themuso at themuso.com Tue Mar 27 11:26:43 2007 From: themuso at themuso.com (Luke Yelavich) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 21:26:43 +1000 Subject: Beta version of Feisty Fawn: problems with BRLTTY and Orca In-Reply-To: <20070327115845.GA3591@implementation.labri.fr> References: <001e01c77056$36b294c0$c864a8c0@simonlaptop> <20070327115845.GA3591@implementation.labri.fr> Message-ID: <20070327112643.GA11888@linden.yelavich.home> On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 09:58:45PM EST, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Hi, > > Simon Bienlein, le Tue 27 Mar 2007 11:56:37 +0200, a écrit : > > I wanted to switch to the virtual console with Alt+F1 in order to start > > Orca. I was not shown a prompt. > > I can confirm this: they seem to have _dropped_ the text console > logins... To my mind, this really has to be reverted. According to the core development team,this is a known bug, and should be fixed soon. -- Luke Yelavich GPG key: 0xD06320CE (http://www.themuso.com/themuso-gpg-key.txt) Email & MSN: themuso at themuso.com Jabber: themuso at jabber.org.au -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From kb8aey at verizon.net Tue Mar 27 13:53:14 2007 From: kb8aey at verizon.net (mike coulombe) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 08:53:14 -0500 (CDT) Subject: is mac still supported Message-ID: <0JFK00GFUEKPGKL3@vms048.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, I don't see a image for mac anymore. Is it still going to be supported. Mike. X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 000728-1, 03/27/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean From themuso at themuso.com Tue Mar 27 20:18:42 2007 From: themuso at themuso.com (Luke Yelavich) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 06:18:42 +1000 Subject: is mac still supported In-Reply-To: <0JFK00GFUEKPGKL3@vms048.mailsrvcs.net> References: <0JFK00GFUEKPGKL3@vms048.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <20070327201842.GA5649@linden.yelavich.home> On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 11:53:14PM EST, mike coulombe wrote: > Hi, I don't see a image for mac anymore. > Is it still going to be supported. Mac/PowerPC images are still available, however that architecture is no longer officially supported. You can find images at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/daily for the alternate CD, and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/daily-live for the live CD. Note that the live CD for Mac doesn't have the accessibility menu when the CD is booted. -- Luke Yelavich GPG key: 0xD06320CE (http://www.themuso.com/themuso-gpg-key.txt) Email & MSN: themuso at themuso.com Jabber: themuso at jabber.org.au -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From s.bienlein at gmx.de Wed Mar 28 08:31:09 2007 From: s.bienlein at gmx.de (Simon Bienlein) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 10:31:09 +0200 Subject: Beta version of Feisty Fawn: problems with BRLTTY and Orca References: <001e01c77056$36b294c0$c864a8c0@simonlaptop> <20070327115845.GA3591@implementation.labri.fr> <20070327112643.GA11888@linden.yelavich.home> Message-ID: <002801c77113$705192e0$c864a8c0@simonlaptop> Hi Luke, > How did you start the live CD? Did you choose any of the options from > the Accessibility boot menu? I did not choose an option but entered the CD and waited. Unfortunately, one cannot clearly make out when one actually is in the boot menu. The CD only stops spinning for an instant and then continues rather quickly. Possibly, one could improve the CD's accessibility by having a blip played out by the PC speaker and by setting up a longer timeout. This is how the Oralux CD works. Which option should I choose? Being in a rush, I was not able to find any recent information on the Ubuntu website. Simon From lubos.pintes at orangemail.sk Wed Mar 28 10:42:37 2007 From: lubos.pintes at orangemail.sk (Lubos Pintes) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 12:42:37 +0200 Subject: Howto install Ubuntu? Message-ID: <460A469D.7020405@orangemail.sk> Hello, I found this guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accessibility/doc/StartGuide A bit old I think. Orca is not mentioned here. I tried to run ubiquity, but orca was silent. Can anybody help? From themuso at themuso.com Wed Mar 28 11:11:00 2007 From: themuso at themuso.com (Luke Yelavich) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 21:11:00 +1000 Subject: Howto install Ubuntu? In-Reply-To: <460A469D.7020405@orangemail.sk> References: <460A469D.7020405@orangemail.sk> Message-ID: <20070328111059.GB3069@themuso.com> On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 08:42:37PM EST, Lubos Pintes wrote: > Hello, > I found this guide: > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accessibility/doc/StartGuide > A bit old I think. Orca is not mentioned here. I tried to run ubiquity, > but orca was silent. Can anybody help? I think http://access.ubuntu.com is the best starting point at the moment. I also believe there are instructions on how to install Ubuntu using Orca on the Orca wiki, http://live.gnome.org/ORCA. Hope this helps. -- Luke Yelavich GPG key: 0xD06320CE (http://www.themuso.com/themuso-gpg-key.txt) Email & MSN: themuso at themuso.com Jabber: themuso at jabber.org.au -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From kb8aey at verizon.net Wed Mar 28 20:03:42 2007 From: kb8aey at verizon.net (mike coulombe) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 15:03:42 -0500 (CDT) Subject: a question about orca Message-ID: <0JFM00GOOQE55971@vms040.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, for those who don't upgrade orca on their own. How long will it be before it is included as a update to feisty. This is a question I have been asked in the past. Mike. X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 000728-2, 03/28/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean From softy.lofty.ilp at btinternet.com Wed Mar 28 20:09:55 2007 From: softy.lofty.ilp at btinternet.com (Ian Pascoe) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 21:09:55 +0100 Subject: Upgrading to Orca Message-ID: Hi Folks I would like to upgrade my Orca v1.0 to v2.18 or the recently announced v2.19 I've read through the Orca page on this, and since I'm new to upgrading on Linux without using the Update Manager, I am a bit confused with the steps I need to go through to do this. I understand the following commands that I believe need to be carried out: sudo apt-get remove gnome-orca sudo apt-get build-dep gnome-orca sudo apt-get install subversion gnome-common The questions that I have are: - is this all that is required? - will this take the download from the Ubuntu package store and if so is the package at v2.18 or 2.19? - if not, where and how do I get it? - will the upgrade also include eSpeak and it's dependancies, or is more work required? You'll appreciate that I don't want to do this without full confidence as once Orca is removed, and if there is more than these 3 commands, Ubuntu may become unuseable for me. Thanks Ian From kb8aey at verizon.net Wed Mar 28 23:14:45 2007 From: kb8aey at verizon.net (mike coulombe) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 18:14:45 -0500 (CDT) Subject: does the help center work with orca Message-ID: <0JFM00JOXZ8KFIV8@vms048.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, is the help center accessible with orca. This isn't something I have had a use for in some time. However today I tried to use it and hear things like network and so on red when pressing the tab or arrow keys. My problem is I don't ever get to a point where I can read about these entries. If the help center does work with orca, what is the correct way to get to the text on these entries. Thanks Mike. X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 000728-2, 03/28/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean From rkcole72984 at gmail.com Thu Mar 29 02:10:23 2007 From: rkcole72984 at gmail.com (Robert Cole) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 19:10:23 -0700 Subject: gnome-mag 0.14.3 command-line configuration Message-ID: <6445c94d0703281910y7a8b2aa7p3548cc3f65321427@mail.gmail.com> Hello, everyone. I just have two questions concerning gnome-mag-0.14.3. I just donwloaded the source, compiled, and installed the program today after downgrading from Ubuntu Feisty to Edgy (did a fresh install of Edgy). These questions are related to the command-line options/parameters for gnome-mag as I use it soley now rather than through Orca. I have a launcher set up for gnome-mag using the following command-line parameters: magnifier -hmz 5.0 This sets up gnome-mag to dock horizontally with a zoom factor of 5.0. The questions are as follows: 1) By default the magnifier is docked at the bottom half of my screen. Due to back pains I cannot hunch myself for long periods of time to read the magnified portion. Is there a way to set the magnified portion to the top half of my screen? 2) Is there a command-line parameter that I can use to remove the crosshairs? I've searched through the manpage and help file, but I cannot find anything related to this. Thanks in advance for any help regarding this situation. Take care. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kb8aey at verizon.net Sat Mar 31 16:39:47 2007 From: kb8aey at verizon.net (mike coulombe) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 11:39:47 -0500 (CDT) Subject: reading tha about menus Message-ID: <0JFS00CLK0YA6UQ3@vms048.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, in the system I can read the about ubuntu, but when reading the about gnome all I hear is pain. Is there a way to read the information that is there, or is this a blank screen at this time. Mike. From rkcole72984 at gmail.com Sat Mar 31 17:10:48 2007 From: rkcole72984 at gmail.com (Robert Cole) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 10:10:48 -0700 Subject: reading tha about menus In-Reply-To: <0JFS00CLK0YA6UQ3@vms048.mailsrvcs.net> References: <0JFS00CLK0YA6UQ3@vms048.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <460E9618.7090501@gmail.com> Hello, Mike. I cannot remember how it was in Feisty (I downgraded for now, but hope to upgrade again soon), but in Edgy the default About GNOME opening screen seemed like more of a slideshow, with text appearing and disappearing. As I recall, I was unable to copy the text from the screen, so ti was more (in my opinion, but I may be wrong) of a video-like presentation. That may be why the text in the window is not being read out loud to you. I hope that this helps, and that (if my outlook is inaccurate) someone corrects me if I am wrong. Take care. mike coulombe wrote: > Hi, in the system I can read the about ubuntu, > but when reading the about gnome all I hear is pain. > Is there a way to read the information that is there, > or is this a blank screen at this time. > Mike. > > From jsd at clara.co.uk Sat Mar 31 17:20:39 2007 From: jsd at clara.co.uk (Jonathan Duddington) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 17:20:39 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Locales, character sets, and wctype functions Message-ID: <4ecc4cf278jsd@clara.co.uk> This probably isn't the best place to ask this programming question, but perhaps someone knows the answer, or else suggest a better place to ask. The eSpeak program processes text from different languages with different character sets. Internally, it uses unicode. When processing text, it calls "wctype" functions such as iswalpha(), which checks whether a unicode character is alphabetic, and towlower() to convert to lower case. Some people report that this doesn't work on their computers. iswalpha() only works for unicode characters after I call setlocale(LC_TYPE,locale) with a locale name such as "en_US.uft8". This tells iswalpha() etc that I'm using unicode. But some people don't have locale "en_US.utf8" installed on their computer. So how do I explicitly tell the wctype functions that I'm using unicode character codes, so that they gives me the correct result? From krister at kristersplace.ws Fri Mar 30 13:30:28 2007 From: krister at kristersplace.ws (Krister Ekstrom) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 15:30:28 +0200 Subject: Help! there's something strange with my Synaptic Message-ID: <460D10F4.3090705@kristersplace.ws> Hello all, I'm trying to use Synaptic on my Ubuntu Feisty system, latest version. When i start the program it seems to start up correctly and i get to see the Synaptic window, but after a couple of seconds i'm thrown out and put back where i started when i tried to run the application. This happens regardless of whether i run it from my user account or as root. I can't see any error messages, maybe they're there but if so they go by so quickly that i don't see it. Is this a known issue or is this only on my system? Where does Synaptic log its error messages? Thanks, /Krister From kb8aey at verizon.net Fri Mar 30 15:40:10 2007 From: kb8aey at verizon.net (mike coulombe) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 10:40:10 -0500 (CDT) Subject: just a feature idea. Message-ID: <0JFQ001UB3IT8VZ1@vms048.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, could a feature be added to ubuntu to make a image of your system. Maybe it could make it as a live CD with a installer to restore a system. Of course it will only store the basic system and any programs you had installed. Just a thought Mike. X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 000729-0, 03/30/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean From kenny at hittsjunk.net Fri Mar 30 16:33:04 2007 From: kenny at hittsjunk.net (Kenny Hitt) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 11:33:04 -0500 Subject: Help! there's something strange with my Synaptic In-Reply-To: <460D10F4.3090705@kristersplace.ws> References: <460D10F4.3090705@kristersplace.ws> Message-ID: <20070330163303.GA5651@hittsjunk.net> Hi. When I try it, I get prompted for my password and then nothing. After I enter the password, I loose speech. Orca is still running, but flat review sees nothing and I can't seem to switch to any of my open Windows. Kenny