From kb8aey at verizon.net Thu May 1 01:07:24 2008 From: kb8aey at verizon.net (mike coulombe) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:07:24 -0500 (CDT) Subject: a question about the windows installer? Message-ID: <0K0600KG70GCUSQ1@vms046.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, I found the windows installer that installs ubuntu inside windows to work very well. But can anyone tell me why the following didn't work. I thought it would be a good idea to carry ubuntu on a flash drive so I could install it on peoples computer. I copied the content of the live CD to my flash drive, and tried the installer. It worked and got to a point where it asked me to reboot, but shortly after starting to do the actual install it crashed. I rebooted and found that the installer did copy files from the flash drive, but it didn't create a image like it does when you do this from the CD. Also, it copied files much faster from the flash drive, so maybe it didn't copy everything it needed. My question is, is there a way to get this installer to do what it has to from a flash drive? Mike. X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080430-1, 04/30/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean From samuel.thibault at ens-lyon.org Fri May 2 00:05:43 2008 From: samuel.thibault at ens-lyon.org (Samuel Thibault) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 01:05:43 +0100 Subject: qemu, Ubuntu CDs, and braille Message-ID: <20080502000543.GF5798@implementation> Hello, svn's version of qemu (as well as the debian qemu package starting from version 0.9.1-4) has support for virtual braille devices. That means that people without braille device can still check the support by installing brltty and then running: brltty -b xw -A auth=user,host=:1 & BRLAPI_HOST=:1 qemu -usbdevice braille -cdrom ubuntu.iso which will display a fake braille device, on which will appear the output of the virtual USB device emulated by qemu. That will probably be helpful to get (sighted) ubuntu core developers test e.g. automatic brltty+orca installation/launch upon detection of braille device, so please spread the word ;) Samuel From alpuzz at gmail.com Mon May 5 13:39:32 2008 From: alpuzz at gmail.com (Al Puzzuoli) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 09:39:32 -0400 Subject: Hardy, Inaccessible Battery Recall Notification? Message-ID: <002501c8aeb5$748b29d0$8901a8c0@thinkpad> I have been using Hardy on my Thinkpad T43 for several weeks now. yesterday, I had a sighted person with me when I first logged into the system. I found out that immediately after logging in, a very obvious message was being displayed, warning me that my machine's battery may have been recalled. I know my battery is alright, so we checked the do not show again box, pressed ok, and the message no longer appeared after that. Although this message has obviously been appearing at each login until yesterday, it seems that it is completely undetectable by Orca. Is this a known issue? If not, where should the bug go? Thanks, --Al -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kb8aey at verizon.net Wed May 7 18:18:25 2008 From: kb8aey at verizon.net (mike coulombe) Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 13:18:25 -0500 (CDT) Subject: I have a question about updates? Message-ID: <0K0I000WRG6ORY53@vms048.mailsrvcs.net> However, I was looking in software sources and saw a box for proposed updates. After checking it, I see updates almost everyday. What is the deal with these? Are they bug fixes, or just things someone thought of later? Today I think I even saw a kernel update, which I thought was never updated once a release becomes final. Thanks for any info, Mike. X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080507-0, 05/07/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean From tate886 at gmail.com Wed May 7 19:13:02 2008 From: tate886 at gmail.com (Ann) Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 15:13:02 -0400 Subject: Helpplease? Install inside of windows problem Message-ID: <4821FF3E.5090706@gmail.com> Hi folks, I am running Windows XP Home edition. I just downloaded and burned a copy of the latest Ubuntu. Has anyone tried the Install Inside of Windows option that comes with the new Ubuntu 8.04 distribution? I am trying to install this, but am having a problem. As some point in the install, during the creating image, I get a message saying "Cannot access CD. Please make sure no other application is accessing it". I am using the default settings, and going in to the Accessibility menu to enable Orca. As far as I know, no other application is trying to access the CD. The CD does work. I can boot in to Ubuntu from the CD, have Orca running, etc. I just can't seem to get the Install Inside of Windows option to, well, install because of the "cannot access CD" message. Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks. ~Ann From themuso at ubuntu.com Thu May 8 00:02:36 2008 From: themuso at ubuntu.com (Luke Yelavich) Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 10:02:36 +1000 Subject: I have a question about updates? In-Reply-To: <0K0I000WRG6ORY53@vms048.mailsrvcs.net> References: <0K0I000WRG6ORY53@vms048.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <20080508000236.GB9685@marin.yelavich.home> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, May 08, 2008 at 04:18:25AM EST, mike coulombe wrote: > However, I was looking in software sources and saw a box for proposed updates. > After checking it, I see updates almost everyday. What is the deal with these? Are they bug fixes, or just things someone thought of later? Today I think I even saw a kernel update, which I thought was never updated once a release becomes final. > Thanks for any info, Mike. The proposed repository is for packages that may become official updates, however they need to go through a testing period first. The updates to these packages are minimal, but they still need testing. Only use these packages if you are willing for your system to possibly break, and if it does, you get to keep both pieces. Luke -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIIkMcjVefwtBjIM4RAnUgAJwMRXVaYJIaF3tYvTn8knHJoCjk9QCeIQhN qWz8zZ7KAP/j8D5lGGhCQvI= =hGJj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From j.t.laurie at gmail.com Thu May 8 01:11:09 2008 From: j.t.laurie at gmail.com (J. T. Laurie) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 20:11:09 -0500 Subject: turning off event sounds in orca Message-ID: <001d01c8b0a8$66d839a0$6601a8c0@Rosetta> someone once offered that to me as a possible solution to my no-sound issue when starting with orca. how does one do this from the keyboard if possible? Thanks in advance! 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My computer is a 3 GHZ processor, with 768 MB of PC3200 DDR Ram, around 400 GB of hard drive space, and has Windows XP Home. Now, I recently got, and was able to install, the latest version of Ubuntu using the "Install Inside of Windows" feature. The install was quite seamless, and I am very impressed with it. I now have a dual boot system with Ubuntu and my Windows XP still very much intact, and I didn't need to have an anxiety attack to get it that way. LOL!. I am having a couple of problems, however. The main one right now is that my speech with Orca is very very sluggish at times, sometimes taking anywhere from a second or even more from the time I press a key to the time I hear any kind of feedback. I"m using, what I think, is Gnome speech and Espeak,which I believe comes set up standard with Orca. What can do to make this more responsive? Would the fact that I used the Install Inside of Windows feature to set up my Ubuntu system have anything at all to do with this problem? And, if I can get a good handle on that issue, my second biggest problem is that I stil have dial up internet, with no broadband at all in my immediate future. And, Ubuntu doesn't seem to recognize dial up modems? What would be the easiest way to fix this issue? I suppose if any downloading is necessary, I can do that while logged in to the XP side of my dual boot, but for now, that pretty much eliminates using any kind of automatic download/updating ability or tools directly through Ubumtu.. Any instructions or pointers to any good documentation, especially if the documentation is aimed towards Linux/Ubuntu beginners, would be very much appreciated here. Thanks. ~Ann From sm5xgp at bernedal.net Fri May 9 05:05:19 2008 From: sm5xgp at bernedal.net (Tony Bernedal) Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 07:05:19 +0200 Subject: Making synthetic speech more responsive & setting up dial up internet References: <48233A3F.7080200@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000201c8b192$476b3910$0501a8c0@hemmapc2> Hi all. I tried to use festival speech with orca. First I can't seem to get the CMU voices to be found in orca preferenses. Only kal show up there. another problem is that when I use festival speech don't work if I for example playing music with rythmbox, but if I close rythmbox the speech is back. It works both with speech and music if i use espeak. I use ubuntu 8.04 on a hp nx7400 laptop. Any ideas? Regards Tony (new to linux/ubuntu and loving it) Hälsningar Tony ---------------------- Kika gärna på min blog. www.bernedal.net Lyssna på Lördagsmys på www.radiomix.no lördagar 19 - 21. ------------------------------ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann" To: "ubuntu" Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 7:37 PM Subject: Making synthetic speech more responsive & setting up dial up internet > Hi folks, > > First of all, let me say that, while I was once quite proficient at > command line Unix, and some command line flavors of Linux as well, the > insidious Microsoft has completely ruined my command line knowledge over > the last few years. So, I guess I'm back to square one, if using any > command line utilities are required here, and I am afraid that will be > the case. I'm good at following instructions, though. > > My computer is a 3 GHZ processor, with 768 MB of PC3200 DDR Ram, around > 400 GB of hard drive space, and has Windows XP Home. Now, I recently > got, and was able to install, the latest version of Ubuntu using the > "Install Inside of Windows" feature. The install was quite seamless, and > I am very impressed with it. I now have a dual boot system with Ubuntu > and my Windows XP still very much intact, and I didn't need to have an > anxiety attack to get it that way. LOL!. > > I am having a couple of problems, however. The main one right now is > that my speech with Orca is very very sluggish at times, sometimes > taking anywhere from a second or even more from the time I press a key > to the time I hear any kind of feedback. I"m using, what I think, is > Gnome speech and Espeak,which I believe comes set up standard with Orca. > What can do to make this more responsive? Would the fact that I used > the Install Inside of Windows feature to set up my Ubuntu system have > anything at all to do with this problem? > > And, if I can get a good handle on that issue, my second biggest problem > is that I stil have dial up internet, with no broadband at all in my > immediate future. And, Ubuntu doesn't seem to recognize dial up modems? > What would be the easiest way to fix this issue? I suppose if any > downloading is necessary, I can do that while logged in to the XP side > of my dual boot, but for now, that pretty much eliminates using any kind > of automatic download/updating ability or tools directly through Ubumtu.. > > Any instructions or pointers to any good documentation, especially if > the documentation is aimed towards Linux/Ubuntu beginners, would be very > much appreciated here. > > Thanks. > > ~Ann > > -- > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility From stormdragon2976 at gmail.com Fri May 9 06:03:04 2008 From: stormdragon2976 at gmail.com (Storm Dragon) Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 02:03:04 -0400 Subject: Orca and Flash not playing nicely Message-ID: <1210312984.2031.12.camel@leela-laptop> Hi, Flash is installed on this computer. When I try to go to a site that uses flash Orca quits speaking. The flash sound doesn't work either. The only way to get Orca back is to ctrl-alt-backspace and log in again. I am not sure but I think it is freezing the whole computer because trying to logout or restart doesn't work. Of course I am trying to logout without speech, so there's a chance I am doing something wrong but I don't think so. On my computer, I have gnash installed and everything works fine. Orca and gnash seem to share the sound output without conflict. Is there anything I can do to get it working with flash? Thanks for the help Storm From stormdragon2976 at gmail.com Fri May 9 08:32:25 2008 From: stormdragon2976 at gmail.com (Storm Dragon) Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 04:32:25 -0400 Subject: Speech-dispatcher won't start? Message-ID: <1210321945.13614.7.camel@leela-laptop> Hi, I installed speech-dispatcher and the python-speechd library. It doesn't show up in my Orca, and I get the error: client: speech-dispatcher failed to start: connection refused I have had this problem on 2 laptops both running Hardy. I have a desktop running Gutsy and it works just fine. I did have to restart in Gutsy before the speech worked though. well, actually, a logout and in would probably have worked just as well, but some Windows habbits are hard to break. *grin* Anyway, is there something else I need to do to get speech-dispatcher working? Thanks for the help Storm From aeclist at candt.waitrose.com Fri May 9 13:28:15 2008 From: aeclist at candt.waitrose.com (alan c) Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 14:28:15 +0100 Subject: Helpplease? Install inside of windows problem In-Reply-To: <4821FF3E.5090706@gmail.com> References: <4821FF3E.5090706@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4824516F.9000706@candt.waitrose.com> Ann wrote: > Hi folks, > > I am running Windows XP Home edition. I just downloaded and burned a > copy of the latest Ubuntu. Has anyone tried the Install Inside of > Windows option that comes with the new Ubuntu 8.04 distribution? I am > trying to install this, but am having a problem. As some point in the > install, during the creating image, I get a message saying "Cannot > access CD. Please make sure no other application is accessing it". I am > using the default settings, and going in to the Accessibility menu to > enable Orca. > > As far as I know, no other application is trying to access the CD. The > CD does work. I can boot in to Ubuntu from the CD, have Orca running, > etc. I just can't seem to get the Install Inside of Windows option to, > well, install because of the "cannot access CD" message. Does anyone > have any ideas? I have used it for test and demonstration a few times now, with no problem, so it can work ok. The early stages of the 'WUBI' activity is used to create a CD iso image in the machine, similar to if you had downloaded the CD image yourself. I believe that the later stages first check the image, then, after a reboot - and you have to choose to go into ubuntu - the install then happens more fully. Does the CD check itself ok as 'Check the CD for Errors'? (in the suspect drive?) My guess is that the reading from your CD drive is marginal quality, and maybe it just fails on these occasions. Repeat tries may improve it or maybe not..... Is changing the CD drive possible? another CD? If it is important to use wubi then it is in principle possible to get the iso image (downloaded) and run the wubi exe file in the same folder as the iso image file and wubi will install from the file directly without using a cd. Although I have not done this myself. -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 From kb8aey at verizon.net Fri May 9 18:27:02 2008 From: kb8aey at verizon.net (mike coulombe) Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 13:27:02 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Can settings be saved to a usb drive? Message-ID: <0K0M00H0S5X1RNT6@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, I work on different computers, and wondered if there is a way to save settings for the live cd on a usb drive. Oralux had this feature, and would come up talking using the settings you saved to a usb drive when you loaded the live cd again. This feature in ubuntu would be handy, if it is possible. Thanks for any info Mike. X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080508-0, 05/08/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean From kb8aey at verizon.net Sun May 11 15:39:40 2008 From: kb8aey at verizon.net (mike coulombe) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 10:39:40 -0500 (CDT) Subject: qspeech-dispatcher Message-ID: <0K0P00LHTNI3ZGL3@vms042.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, I installed the python-speechd package in hardy, but still do not see speech-dispatcher in the orca choices. I must have missed something here. Is there something else I have to do to get speech-dispatcher to work, or is it not working in hardy. The only reason I need it is so I can use orca while playing music. Thanks Mike. From kenny at hittsjunk.net Sun May 11 16:25:09 2008 From: kenny at hittsjunk.net (Kenny Hitt) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 11:25:09 -0500 Subject: qspeech-dispatcher In-Reply-To: <0K0P00LHTNI3ZGL3@vms042.mailsrvcs.net> References: <0K0P00LHTNI3ZGL3@vms042.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <20080511162509.GD19581@hittsjunk.net> Hi. You shouldn't need speech-dispatcher to play audio in Hardy. just goto system preferences sound and make sure all options are set to pulsesyn. kenny On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 10:39:40AM -0500, mike coulombe wrote: > Hi, I installed the python-speechd package in hardy, but still do not see speech-dispatcher in the orca choices. > I must have missed something here. Is there something else I have to do to get speech-dispatcher to work, or is it not working in hardy. > The only reason I need it is so I can use orca while playing music. > Thanks Mike. > > -- > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility From angelo.marra at libero.it Sun May 11 17:39:32 2008 From: angelo.marra at libero.it (Angelo Marra) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 18:39:32 +0100 Subject: Text to speech italian Message-ID: <48272F54.1080400@libero.it> Hi I need to use GOOD voices (such as sapi5) in UBUNTU. Is there any ITALIAN and ENGLISH voice I can use? Which software can I use in Linux similar to DSpeech or Textaloud? Thanks a lot Angelo From guyster at bex.net Sun May 11 16:48:06 2008 From: guyster at bex.net (Guy Schlosser) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 12:48:06 -0400 Subject: qspeech-dispatcher In-Reply-To: <20080511162509.GD19581@hittsjunk.net> References: <0K0P00LHTNI3ZGL3@vms042.mailsrvcs.net> <20080511162509.GD19581@hittsjunk.net> Message-ID: <20080511094705.A4BCE313@sj1-dm102.mta.everyone.net> Hey there Mike, although Kenny is correct in saying that you don't necessarily need speech-dispatcher for playing multiple streams, the reason you're not seeing sd in the choice of speech systems is because speech-dispatcher is no longer started as a system-wide service in Hardy. Easiest way to get it to start automaticly is to go to system>preferences>sessions and add speech-dispatcher as a startup programs. Once you reboot after making this change, you should see it as an available option. I hope that helps. Later, Guy At 12:25 PM 5/11/2008, Kenny Hitt wrote: >Hi. You shouldn't need speech-dispatcher to play audio in >Hardy. just goto system preferences sound and make sure all options >are set to pulsesyn. > > kenny >On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 10:39:40AM -0500, mike coulombe wrote: > > Hi, I installed the python-speechd package in hardy, but still do > not see speech-dispatcher in the orca choices. > > I must have missed something here. Is there something else I have > to do to get speech-dispatcher to work, or is it not working in hardy. > > The only reason I need it is so I can use orca while playing music. > > Thanks Mike. > > > > -- > > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > > Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility > >-- >Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list >Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility From kb8aey at verizon.net Sun May 11 23:10:11 2008 From: kb8aey at verizon.net (mike coulombe) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 18:10:11 -0500 (CDT) Subject: a question about the live cd Message-ID: <0K0Q00EKI8CXIZYA@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, I see there is a hardy live CD dated may 9 called 8.04.1. What is the difference between this one and the CD I downloaded two days after the final release came out? Also will this be the last hardy live cd? Thanks Mike. From themuso at ubuntu.com Mon May 12 01:25:59 2008 From: themuso at ubuntu.com (Luke Yelavich) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 11:25:59 +1000 Subject: a question about the live cd In-Reply-To: <0K0Q00EKI8CXIZYA@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> References: <0K0Q00EKI8CXIZYA@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <20080512012559.GB9234@marin.yelavich.home> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 09:10:11AM EST, mike coulombe wrote: > Hi, I see there is a hardy live CD dated may 9 called 8.04.1. What is the difference between this one and the CD I downloaded two days after the final release came out? Also will this be the last hardy live cd? The later one, 8.04.1 is a testing CD image, which will eventually be the final 8.04.1, come July. If you want to test this CD, go ahead, but expect that things could break, and if they do, you get to keep both pieces. Luke -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIJ5ynjVefwtBjIM4RAikEAJkBscOsQ/CcVV8jHS4YUER+mnRdUACfaYQm NIOjIKjTdnoQlYWKh1nTHe0= =Iu4u -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mohammed at atexplorer.com Mon May 12 11:22:10 2008 From: mohammed at atexplorer.com (Mohammed Al-shar') Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 14:22:10 +0300 Subject: the status of the accessibility of hardy's installation with orca Message-ID: <003401c8b422$6e1aff90$6401a8c0@home> hello. what is the status of the final release of hardy in regard to its installation accessibility? during beta phase it wasn't accessible using speech. All the best, Mohammed al-shar' msn: mohammed0204 at hotmail.com skype: world.of.wonders mobile: +962(79)6632186 www.wowonders.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hanke at brailcom.org Mon May 12 14:33:23 2008 From: hanke at brailcom.org (Hynek Hanke) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 16:33:23 +0200 Subject: Text to speech italian In-Reply-To: <48272F54.1080400@libero.it> References: <48272F54.1080400@libero.it> Message-ID: <48285533.5070000@brailcom.org> Angelo Marra napsal(a): > I need to use GOOD voices (such as sapi5) in UBUNTU. > Is there any ITALIAN and ENGLISH voice I can use? > Which software can I use in Linux similar to DSpeech or Textalou Hello Angelo, there are Italian voices in Festival: festlex-ifd - Italian support for Festival festvox-italp16k - Italian female speaker for Festival festvox-itapc16k - Italian male speaker for Festival Though not great, they are not so bad either. With regards, Hynek Hanke From kb8aey at verizon.net Tue May 13 02:05:14 2008 From: kb8aey at verizon.net (mike coulombe) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 21:05:14 -0500 (CDT) Subject: a question about lts releases Message-ID: <0K0S00H4KB4QDT4C@vms044.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, I never noticed before that the lts releases have a 01 release as well as the first release. I see this for dapper, and see Hardy will also have one in July. I was just curious as to why this is, and what the difference will be in the 01 release since the other distros only show the final release? Thanks Mike. X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080512-0, 05/12/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean From sm5xgp at bernedal.net Tue May 13 15:33:02 2008 From: sm5xgp at bernedal.net (Tony Bernedal) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 17:33:02 +0200 Subject: speech dies in orca Message-ID: Hi all. I have now upgraded my old desktop machine fråm ubuntu 7.10 to 8.04. I'm very happy with the system so far. One thing I notice is that speech dies suddenly in orca. My braille display works so I can go to orca preferences and take OK button and then speech is back again. I tried to start music player when speech was gone and the music plays fine so the soundcard is OK. I use e speak swedish and english with gnome-speech Any ideas what can caus this to happen. No problem with speech on ubuntu 7.10. The soundcard is soundblaster live. BTW the speech works perfect on my laptop with ubuntu 8.04 so there is something on this system. This one is upgraded, the laptop is fresch installed from CD. Regards Tony From sm5xgp at bernedal.net Tue May 13 15:36:31 2008 From: sm5xgp at bernedal.net (Tony Bernedal) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 17:36:31 +0200 Subject: Question about rythmbox Message-ID: Hi all. I have a question about rythmbox. When the window is minimized I get notification for every new song thats played on a radiostation wich have title streaming. It's little irritating to hear that info every new song. Is there a setting somewhere to turn this off? I can't find anything inside the player to turn this notification on or off. Regards Tony From hammera at pickup.hu Wed May 14 04:02:43 2008 From: hammera at pickup.hu (Hammer Attila) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 06:02:43 +0200 Subject: Few questions Message-ID: <482A6463.9040402@pickup.hu> Dear List! I have few questions. 1. When I install Hardy with Ubiquity, why not spoken Orca hungarian language with prewious, cancel and forward buttons? In the screen, this buttons displayed correct translated with hungarian language. Orca using script with ubiquity, and this buttons saying not marked for translation? Possible solve this problem with 8.4.1 release? In Gutsy, this problem is not present. 2. Orca saying "step 1 of 7", but if the hungarian language is selected, the correct text displayed: "1. lépés, összesen: 7.", but english text spoken. 3. I tryed install Hardy with unpartitioned system, and the new partition dialog not spoken the different filesystem selector combo box, only the "filesystem" word spoken, it is inaccessible. This is a critical problem if blind people tryed install Hardy with unpartitioned computer. Possible solve this problem with 8.4.1 release? 4. Orca lose speech in Hardy with different time period, different applications used. Not matter the new pulseaudio function? In Debian Lenny and In Gutsy, this problem is not present. This problem present various computers, various chipsets. This problem present if I logged with normal user and root, it is a critical problem with accessibility use of Hardy. If enough help, with my blind colleagues will be testing this problem, and if it is present any computer, put my bugreport the hardware configuration data. How can I turn off this new feature, and using oldest method with Orca speech generation, for example with Gutsy? Have confirm anybodi this problem? It is Ubuntu specific problem? Possible solve this problem with short time period, for example with 8.4.1 release? 5. The new polkit feature is very good work Orca with four applications it is implemented this function. If I click unlock button and write my password, speech correct the application. Possible implementing this function with all system administration application? What long time period possible doing this implementation? Luke and any developer worked the accessible installation, I would like congratulation with accessible installation of Hardy, I would like thank you your good and beautiful work. Attila From tony.bernedal at gmail.com Wed May 14 15:59:39 2008 From: tony.bernedal at gmail.com (Tony Bernedal) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 17:59:39 +0200 Subject: add voices in festival Message-ID: <63BBD2DEF5674043B67642036E3C4EB6@hemmapc2> Hi all How on earth can I get new voices in festival to show up in orca? I have added a CMU voice and copied the folder to /usr/share/festival/voices/english/ folder but it doesn't show in orca preferences. All the other voices that I installed with the festival package is there. Any ideas? Regards Tony From angelo.marra at libero.it Thu May 15 09:04:20 2008 From: angelo.marra at libero.it (angelo.marra at libero.it) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 11:04:20 +0200 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Thjanks very much. I knoe festival already. is there anthing batter? Thans again Hynek Hanke ha scritto: > Angelo Marra napsal(a): >> I need to use GOOD voices (such as sapi5) in UBUNTU. >> Is there any ITALIAN and ENGLISH voice I can use? >> Which software can I use in Linux similar to DSpeech or Textalou > Hello Angelo, > > there are Italian voices in Festival: > > festlex-ifd - Italian support for Festival > festvox-italp16k - Italian female speaker for Festival > festvox-itapc16k - Italian male speaker for Festival > > Though not great, they are not so bad either. > > With regards, > Hynek Hanke > From angelo.marra at libero.it Thu May 15 15:20:07 2008 From: angelo.marra at libero.it (Angelo Marra) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 17:20:07 +0200 Subject: Text to speech italian In-Reply-To: <48285533.5070000@brailcom.org> References: <48272F54.1080400@libero.it> <48285533.5070000@brailcom.org> Message-ID: <482C54A7.9030700@libero.it> Thjanks very much. I know festival already. is there anthing batter? Thans again Hynek Hanke ha scritto: > Angelo Marra napsal(a): >> I need to use GOOD voices (such as sapi5) in UBUNTU. >> Is there any ITALIAN and ENGLISH voice I can use? >> Which software can I use in Linux similar to DSpeech or Textalou > Hello Angelo, > > there are Italian voices in Festival: > > festlex-ifd - Italian support for Festival > festvox-italp16k - Italian female speaker for Festival > festvox-itapc16k - Italian male speaker for Festival > > Though not great, they are not so bad either. > > With regards, > Hynek Hanke > > > From aerospace1028 at hotmail.com Thu May 15 18:44:41 2008 From: aerospace1028 at hotmail.com (aerospace1028 at hotmail.com) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 14:44:41 -0400 Subject: liblouisxmml Message-ID: Greetings, Does anyone have any experience building liblouisxml in ubuntu 7.10? I downloaded the newest packages from jjb-software Tuesday, and I'm having trouble getting liblouisxml to build. I made liblouis without any erros nd lou_allround worked well. However, when I try to make liblouisxml I get the following error: $: make -f linux-Makefile gcc -c -Wall -fPIC -O2 transcriber.c -I/usr/include/libxml2 In file included from transcriber.c:35: louisxml.h:34:27: error: libxml/parser.h: No such file or directory In file included from louisxml.h:37, from transcriber.c:35: transcriber.h:94: error: expected ) before * token In file included from transcriber.c:35: louisxml.h:187: error: expected ) before * token louisxml.h:188: error: expected ) before * token louisxml.h:189: error: expected ) before * token louisxml.h:190: error: expected ) before * token louisxml.h:191: error: expected ) before * token louisxml.h:192: error: expected ) before * token louisxml.h:193: error: expected ) before * token louisxml.h:194: error: expected ) before * token louisxml.h:195: error: expected ) before * token louisxml.h:196: error: expected ) before * token louisxml.h:197: error: expected ) before * token louisxml.h:198: error: expected ) before * token louisxml.h:199: error: expected ) before * token louisxml.h:203: error: expected ) before * token louisxml.h:204: error: expected = , , , ; , asm or __attribute__ before * token louisxml.h:205: error: expected ) before * token transcriber.c:540: error: expected ) before * token transcriber.c:588: error: expected ) before * token make: *** [transcriber.o] Error 1 $: The liblouis mailing-list suggested there might be something wrong with my libxml2. I found libxml2.so.2.6.30 under /usr/lib, but I noticed that the makefile adds /usr/include/libxml2 to the include path, but I have no libxml2 directory under /usr/include. Does anyone know what i need to do to get this package to compile? Thanks:-) _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live SkyDrive lets you share files with faraway friends. http://www.windowslive.com/skydrive/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_skydrive_052008 From samuel.thibault at ens-lyon.org Thu May 15 21:57:50 2008 From: samuel.thibault at ens-lyon.org (Samuel Thibault) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 23:57:50 +0200 Subject: liblouisxmml In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20080515215750.GA4451@implementation> aerospace1028 at hotmail.com, le Thu 15 May 2008 14:44:41 -0400, a écrit : > gcc -c -Wall -fPIC -O2 transcriber.c -I/usr/include/libxml2 > In file included from transcriber.c:35: > louisxml.h:34:27: error: libxml/parser.h: No such file or directory apt-file search libxml/parser.h libxml2-dev: /usr/include/libxml2/libxml/parser.h Samuel From William.Walker at Sun.COM Fri May 16 17:45:51 2008 From: William.Walker at Sun.COM (Willie Walker) Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 13:45:51 -0400 Subject: add voices in festival In-Reply-To: <63BBD2DEF5674043B67642036E3C4EB6@hemmapc2> References: <63BBD2DEF5674043B67642036E3C4EB6@hemmapc2> Message-ID: <482DC84F.2000305@sun.com> The gnome-speech driver for festival looks for the (voice.list) binding. To see this in festival, run 'festival' and type '(voice.list)' at the festival prompt. The thing that builds up voice.list seems to be /usr/share/festival/voices.scm, and it seems to be dependent upon some FestVox conventions. Will Tony Bernedal wrote: > Hi all > How on earth can I get new voices in festival to show up in orca? > I have added a CMU voice and copied the folder to > /usr/share/festival/voices/english/ folder but it doesn't show in orca > preferences. All the other voices that I installed with the festival package > is there. > Any ideas? > Regards Tony > > From debee at jfcl.com Fri May 16 23:36:28 2008 From: debee at jfcl.com (Deborah Norling) Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 16:36:28 -0700 Subject: Hardy and Alsa Message-ID: <000001c8b7ad$aa9a6710$8201010a@Reason> I am following the directions in question number 4 of the Orca faq under the heading titled: >How do I get Orca to speak alongside other ALSA applications? Apt-get says that alsa-oss is already installed and the newest version. This is Hardy, installed from the live CD choosing mostly defaults. Orca worked fine, but other media players were silent when orca was running. I easily locate and edit the file GNOME_Speech_SynthesisDriver_Espeak.server. I change the third line, as the FAQ instructs so it now reads: type="exe" location="/usr/bin/aoss /usr/bin/espeak-synthesis-driver" I save, shutdown safely and restart. This completely breaks speech in Orca. However, I can run espeak on a command line in gnome-terminal and get speech for example a simple ls | espeak works fine. Does this information in the FAQ no longer pertain to Hardy? I remember reading somewhere that Hardy's sound drivers had drastically changed, but I can't locate the information now. --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kenny at hittsjunk.net Fri May 16 23:45:16 2008 From: kenny at hittsjunk.net (Kenny Hitt) Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 18:45:16 -0500 Subject: Hardy and Alsa In-Reply-To: <000001c8b7ad$aa9a6710$8201010a@Reason> References: <000001c8b7ad$aa9a6710$8201010a@Reason> Message-ID: <20080516234516.GB5699@hittsjunk.net> hi. Yes, that info is no longer valid. Hardy now uses pulseaudio for all output. Gnome-speech is already set up to use pulseaudio. i don't have a Hardy install nere now, but you should have left gnome-speech alone and changed all audio output in system sound to pulse instead of alsa. Hope this helps. Kenny On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 04:36:28PM -0700, Deborah Norling wrote: > I am following the directions in question number 4 of the Orca faq under the > heading titled: > >How do I get Orca to speak alongside other ALSA applications? > > Apt-get says that alsa-oss is already installed and the newest version. This > is Hardy, installed from the live CD choosing mostly defaults. Orca worked > fine, but other media players were silent when orca was running. > > I easily locate and edit the file > GNOME_Speech_SynthesisDriver_Espeak.server. > > I change the third line, as the FAQ instructs so it now reads: > type="exe" location="/usr/bin/aoss /usr/bin/espeak-synthesis-driver" > > I save, shutdown safely and restart. > > This completely breaks speech in Orca. However, I can run espeak on a > command line in gnome-terminal and get speech for example a simple ls | > espeak works fine. > > Does this information in the FAQ no longer pertain to Hardy? I remember > reading somewhere that Hardy's sound drivers had drastically changed, but I > can't locate the information now. > > --Debee > > > > > > > -- > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility From stormdragon2976 at gmail.com Sat May 17 05:00:07 2008 From: stormdragon2976 at gmail.com (Storm Dragon) Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 01:00:07 -0400 Subject: Possible workaround for Speech-Dispatcher problem in Hardy Message-ID: <1211000407.12155.14.camel@leela-laptop> Hi, I got speech-dispatcher working on my system. I am still a bit new, so take this advice with a grain of caution. When trying to start speech-dispatcher with the -d or -s switch, I kept getting an error about it having the wrong permission to create the pid file in /var/run/speech-dispatcher. Upon checking /var/run, I noticed that there is no folder called speech-dispatcher there. So, I created it but still had the same problem with the permissions. I had to use sudo in order to create the folder. So, I changed the permissions to 777, yes, I know you should only give 777 in rare cases, but I was just testing. I started speech-dispatcher with the -s option first and got some errors, but it did seem to start ok except it froze while waiting for client...? I think. So, on the second attempt I used -d to run it as a daemon. It worked. spd-say hello produced the expected output. So, for the brave hearted, here are the instructions to do what I did. If you know of a more secure way to do this, please let everyone know Open terminal. cd /var/run sudo mkdir speech-dispatcher sudo chmod 777 speech-dispatcher speech-dispatcher -d spd-say hello That should do it. Oh, for some reason, things like / or @ have an echo to them. Using the espeak US english voice. Hope this helps someone Storm From stormdragon2976 at gmail.com Sat May 17 16:31:03 2008 From: stormdragon2976 at gmail.com (Storm Dragon) Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 12:31:03 -0400 Subject: Speech-dispatcher update Message-ID: <1211041863.11079.5.camel@leela-laptop> Hi, If you try the fix I wrote about last night, there is one problem. I turned on the computer this morning and the /var/run/speech-dispatcher folder was missing. I had no speech. Fortunately, I had memorized the Orca preferences enough to be able to switch back to Gnome speech services. I had to recreate the /var/run/speech-dispatcher and change the permissions back to 777 and it worked again. So, if you used my workaround, be sure to switch back to gnome speech services before shutting down. I logged out and back in with no problems last night, it only happened when I completely shut the system down. Storm From listaddr1 at gmx.net Sat May 17 18:40:57 2008 From: listaddr1 at gmx.net (Lukas Loehrer) Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 20:40:57 +0200 Subject: Speech-dispatcher update In-Reply-To: <1211041863.11079.5.camel@leela-laptop> References: <1211041863.11079.5.camel@leela-laptop> Message-ID: <18479.9913.148320.81923@gargle.gargle.HOWL> As far as I can tell, you should simply have to set RUN_SPEECHD=yes ind /etc/default/speech-dispatcher. The init scriptp of speech-dispatcher should take care of setting up the necessary directory in /var/run. Best regards, Lukas Storm Dragon writes ("Speech-dispatcher update"): > Hi, > If you try the fix I wrote about last night, there is one problem. I > turned on the computer this morning and the /var/run/speech-dispatcher > folder was missing. I had no speech. Fortunately, I had memorized the > Orca preferences enough to be able to switch back to Gnome speech > services. I had to recreate the /var/run/speech-dispatcher and change > the permissions back to 777 and it worked again. So, if you used my > workaround, be sure to switch back to gnome speech services before > shutting down. I logged out and back in with no problems last night, it > only happened when I completely shut the system down. > Storm > > > -- > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility > From mohammed at atexplorer.com Sat May 17 20:01:08 2008 From: mohammed at atexplorer.com (Mohammed Al-shar') Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 23:01:08 +0300 Subject: system admin Message-ID: <1C93C00C7CEC4C10AA0E7092958162E8@mohammedPC> hi list. on the Orca page there are instructions to enable system administration on hardy with Orca as follows: "SYS ADMIN: 1) Create root's ~/.orbitrc file (/root/.orbitrc, with and owner.group of root.root with a mode of 644 on my system): ORBIIOPIPv4=1 ORBIIOPUNIX=0 2) Edit /etc/sudoers to add the following line after the line with "env_reset" in it: Defaults env_keep+="GTK_MODULES" Everything else seems to have been taken care of by Luke and Ubuntu (thanks Luke!), at least for my decrepit Toshiba Tecra M2 laptop. " can anyone of you help me by rewriting this in a clear step by step instructions? I don't know how to create a file yet, and I forgot how to edit a file as root. thanks. Mohammed Al-shar' -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From debee at jfcl.com Sun May 18 03:58:15 2008 From: debee at jfcl.com (Deborah Norling) Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 20:58:15 -0700 Subject: Hardy and Alsa In-Reply-To: <20080516234516.GB5699@hittsjunk.net> Message-ID: <000f01c8b89b$66775f40$8201010a@Reason> Thanks Kenny for the heads up on PulseAudio! I clearly broke my system by making those changes from the FAQ. I'd edit the FAQ if I knew more. Maybe someone who does, should. So with PulseAudio, am I supposed to be able to get multiple sound channels -- like listening to internet radio and software speech simultaneously? I know I have a multi-channel sound card on this machine. Which media players are compatible with this new-fangled thing? Several years ago, Alsa replaced Oss, and I never completely understood why. I did understand for some apps you had to run Oss emulation. Is Pulse-Audio now a new replacement for Alsa? So where is there user level documentation on PulseAudio? What makes it better? Do I now have to find Alsa emulation for PulseAudio? What else does this break? Would voxin or ttsynth for example still work? Any pointers to reading material would be appreciated. I have this love-hate relationship with Linux, and I think the thing I hate the most is the abundance of out-of-date and downright dangerous documentation. Not to mention the general lack of clear docs. I keep vowing to write some, but I always seem to be behind, and by the time I understand something thoroughly enough to document it, the thing I understand is depricated. I think I'm going to wear a t-shirt that says: Everything I know is now depricated! --Debee From William.Walker at Sun.COM Sun May 18 11:27:05 2008 From: William.Walker at Sun.COM (Willie Walker) Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 07:27:05 -0400 Subject: Hardy and Alsa In-Reply-To: <000f01c8b89b$66775f40$8201010a@Reason> References: <000f01c8b89b$66775f40$8201010a@Reason> Message-ID: <076531f8d501052f9ae472820a4fc347@sun.com> I've updated the Orca WIKI to include a note for Ubuntu Hardy users. Will On May 17, 2008, at 11:58 PM, Deborah Norling wrote: > Thanks Kenny for the heads up on PulseAudio! I clearly broke my system > by > making those changes from the FAQ. I'd edit the FAQ if I knew more. > Maybe > someone who does, should. > > So with PulseAudio, am I supposed to be able to get multiple sound > channels > -- like listening to internet radio and software speech > simultaneously? I > know I have a multi-channel sound card on this machine. Which media > players > are compatible with this new-fangled thing? > > Several years ago, Alsa replaced Oss, and I never completely > understood why. > I did understand for some apps you had to run Oss emulation. > > Is Pulse-Audio now a new replacement for Alsa? So where is there user > level > documentation on PulseAudio? What makes it better? Do I now have to > find > Alsa emulation for PulseAudio? > > What else does this break? Would voxin or ttsynth for example still > work? > Any pointers to reading material would be appreciated. > > I have this love-hate relationship with Linux, and I think the thing I > hate > the most is the abundance of out-of-date and downright dangerous > documentation. Not to mention the general lack of clear docs. I keep > vowing > to write some, but I always seem to be behind, and by the time I > understand > something thoroughly enough to document it, the thing I understand is > depricated. > > I think I'm going to wear a t-shirt that says: > Everything I know is now depricated! > > --Debee > > > -- > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility From kenny at hittsjunk.net Sun May 18 17:06:51 2008 From: kenny at hittsjunk.net (Kenny Hitt) Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 12:06:51 -0500 Subject: Hardy and Alsa In-Reply-To: <000f01c8b89b$66775f40$8201010a@Reason> References: <20080516234516.GB5699@hittsjunk.net> <000f01c8b89b$66775f40$8201010a@Reason> Message-ID: <20080518170651.GK5699@hittsjunk.net> Hi. Pulseaudio isn't a replacement for alsa. Instead of me trying to explain, you might want to visit pulseaudio.org. Any player that uses gstreamer will work with pulseaudio. Rhythmbox and totem both use gstreamer. I believe the ubuntu developers have patched mplayer and the xine engine as well. The lack of documentation doesn't bother me since I run Linux full time. I'm on several mailing lists and google will always find information. The change to pulseaudio was discussed in the Hardy release notes. I used to support new users coming to Linux and do my best to correct wrong information. Lately, I've stopped doing that. I've had it with Windows users posting messages on Linux mailing lists slamming Linux and telling me how Windows is so much better. I don't post mail to Windows lists saying how much better Linux is than Windows. The fact they can't show me the same courtesy, is insulting. My new attitude is: if they break it because they can't read and learn, they deserve it. Besides, they've already said Windows is better. Voxin, ttsynth, or what ever they call Viavoce should be avoided. They are 10 year old binaries with several nasty bugs. The people who sell them don't tell the full story about there product, and they don't seem to support it. Kenny On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 08:58:15PM -0700, Deborah Norling wrote: > Thanks Kenny for the heads up on PulseAudio! I clearly broke my system by > making those changes from the FAQ. I'd edit the FAQ if I knew more. Maybe > someone who does, should. > > So with PulseAudio, am I supposed to be able to get multiple sound channels > -- like listening to internet radio and software speech simultaneously? I > know I have a multi-channel sound card on this machine. Which media players > are compatible with this new-fangled thing? > > Several years ago, Alsa replaced Oss, and I never completely understood why. > I did understand for some apps you had to run Oss emulation. > > Is Pulse-Audio now a new replacement for Alsa? So where is there user level > documentation on PulseAudio? What makes it better? Do I now have to find > Alsa emulation for PulseAudio? > > What else does this break? Would voxin or ttsynth for example still work? > Any pointers to reading material would be appreciated. > > I have this love-hate relationship with Linux, and I think the thing I hate > the most is the abundance of out-of-date and downright dangerous > documentation. Not to mention the general lack of clear docs. I keep vowing > to write some, but I always seem to be behind, and by the time I understand > something thoroughly enough to document it, the thing I understand is > depricated. > > I think I'm going to wear a t-shirt that says: > Everything I know is now depricated! > > --Debee > > > -- > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility From steve at fullmeasure.co.uk Mon May 19 09:15:56 2008 From: steve at fullmeasure.co.uk (Steve Lee) Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 10:15:56 +0100 Subject: Hardy and Alsa In-Reply-To: <20080518170651.GK5699@hittsjunk.net> References: <20080516234516.GB5699@hittsjunk.net> <000f01c8b89b$66775f40$8201010a@Reason> <20080518170651.GK5699@hittsjunk.net> Message-ID: <6a4dbccf0805190215y7b03d38o76ce5313979fadef@mail.gmail.com> On 18/05/2008, Kenny Hitt wrote: > The lack of documentation doesn't bother me since I run Linux full time. I'm on several mailing lists and google will always find information. The change to pulseaudio was discussed in the Hardy release notes. Hmm, out of date documentation is worse that *no* documentation and Google will often throw up so many pages at various stages of staleness that it can be very hard to work out which to follow. This is more of a problem with OSS as the software evolves at a greater pass that proprietary stuff. > My new attitude is: if they break it because they can't read and learn, they deserve it. Besides, they've already said Windows is better. IMHO as Linux becomes even more popular with desktop users (and that is what I want to see) then the user demographics are changing to include more of those who want the system to *just work* so they can get on with their tasks and for it it be easy to make changes without fear of breaking the system. We can expect this to apply to all users, including those who use accessibility features we provide. We also want to make it as easy as possible for people to migrate to Linux. My view is we that should embrace these users and make life as easy as possible for them as we can within reason. Even if that seems like extra work for us who are more than happy to 'read and learn' and experiment. Perhaps the solution is to find people who are motivated enough to want to maintain this sort of information. My 2 C's :-) -- Steve Lee -- Open Source Assistive Technology Software web: fullmeasure.co.uk blog: eduspaces.net/stevelee/weblog On 18/05/2008, Kenny Hitt wrote: > Hi. Pulseaudio isn't a replacement for alsa. Instead of me trying to explain, you might want to visit > > pulseaudio.org. > Any player that uses gstreamer will work with pulseaudio. Rhythmbox and totem both use gstreamer. I believe the ubuntu developers have patched mplayer and the xine engine as well. > The lack of documentation doesn't bother me since I run Linux full time. I'm on several mailing lists and google will always find information. The change to pulseaudio was discussed in the Hardy release notes. > I used to support new users coming to Linux and do my best to correct wrong information. Lately, I've stopped doing that. I've had it with Windows users posting messages on Linux mailing lists slamming Linux and telling me how Windows is so much better. I don't post mail to Windows lists saying how much > better Linux is than Windows. The fact they can't show me the same courtesy, is insulting. > My new attitude is: if they break it because they can't read and learn, they deserve it. Besides, they've already said Windows is better. > > Voxin, ttsynth, or what ever they call Viavoce should be avoided. They are 10 year old binaries with several nasty bugs. The people who sell them don't tell the full story about there product, and they don't seem to support it. > > > Kenny > > On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 08:58:15PM -0700, Deborah Norling wrote: > > Thanks Kenny for the heads up on PulseAudio! I clearly broke my system by > > making those changes from the FAQ. I'd edit the FAQ if I knew more. Maybe > > someone who does, should. > > > > So with PulseAudio, am I supposed to be able to get multiple sound channels > > -- like listening to internet radio and software speech simultaneously? I > > know I have a multi-channel sound card on this machine. Which media players > > are compatible with this new-fangled thing? > > > > Several years ago, Alsa replaced Oss, and I never completely understood why. > > I did understand for some apps you had to run Oss emulation. > > > > Is Pulse-Audio now a new replacement for Alsa? So where is there user level > > documentation on PulseAudio? What makes it better? Do I now have to find > > Alsa emulation for PulseAudio? > > > > What else does this break? Would voxin or ttsynth for example still work? > > Any pointers to reading material would be appreciated. > > > > I have this love-hate relationship with Linux, and I think the thing I hate > > the most is the abundance of out-of-date and downright dangerous > > documentation. Not to mention the general lack of clear docs. I keep vowing > > to write some, but I always seem to be behind, and by the time I understand > > something thoroughly enough to document it, the thing I understand is > > depricated. > > > > I think I'm going to wear a t-shirt that says: > > Everything I know is now depricated! > > > > --Debee > > > > > > -- > > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > > Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility > > -- > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility > -- Steve Lee -- Open Source Assistive Technology Software web: fullmeasure.co.uk blog: eduspaces.net/stevelee/weblog From groothendrik at vodamail.co.za Sun May 18 23:28:33 2008 From: groothendrik at vodamail.co.za (Hendrik Steyn) Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 15:28:33 -0800 Subject: orca ubuntu 8.04 Message-ID: <000601c8b93e$ea421790$107d1d29@hendrikx8qa3m9> Hallo all I really am trying to find how to install ubuntu 8.04 with orca running. I've spend a grate deal of time on the internet, but I can't find a sollution for it to work. The commands "orca --no-setup &" and "ubiquity" don't work anymore like in ubuntu 7.10. Please, can someone help me to solve this issue? I don't want to upgrate from 7.10 since I'm making my PC at work duel boot. Regards Hendrik Steyn -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kenny at hittsjunk.net Mon May 19 16:26:55 2008 From: kenny at hittsjunk.net (Kenny Hitt) Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 11:26:55 -0500 Subject: orca ubuntu 8.04 In-Reply-To: <000601c8b93e$ea421790$107d1d29@hendrikx8qa3m9> References: <000601c8b93e$ea421790$107d1d29@hendrikx8qa3m9> Message-ID: <20080519162655.GR5699@hittsjunk.net> Hi. Have you read the following? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-accessibility/2008-April/002823.html Kenny From herzog at frontiernet.net Mon May 19 22:10:53 2008 From: herzog at frontiernet.net (Herzog) Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 18:10:53 -0400 Subject: Hardy and Alsa Message-ID: <4831FAED.8010005@frontiernet.net> THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING why I have had such crappy luck with them, on my Ubuntu-Orca machine. and tolerating the MSFT self-exiles. Will Herzog QUOTE Kenny: Voxin, ttsynth, or what ever they call Viavoce should be avoided. They are 10 year old binaries with several nasty bugs. The people who sell them don't tell the full story about there product, and they don't seem to support it. From tony.bernedal at gmail.com Tue May 20 04:40:07 2008 From: tony.bernedal at gmail.com (Tony Bernedal) Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 06:40:07 +0200 Subject: installing from dvd Message-ID: <6FDF625E1C914BD8A95940060EF39167@hemmapc2> Hi all. Is it possible to make a accessible installation from the dvd of ubuntu? What is the big difference between the dvd and live cd regarding installation? All the best Tony Hälsningar Tony ---------------------- Kika gärna på min blog. www.bernedal.net Lyssna på Lördagsmys på www.radiomix.no lördagar 19 - 21. ------------------------------ From themuso at ubuntu.com Tue May 20 06:44:21 2008 From: themuso at ubuntu.com (Luke Yelavich) Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 08:44:21 +0200 Subject: installing from dvd In-Reply-To: <6FDF625E1C914BD8A95940060EF39167@hemmapc2> References: <6FDF625E1C914BD8A95940060EF39167@hemmapc2> Message-ID: <20080520064421.GA8915@marlon.yelavich.home> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 06:40:07AM CEST, Tony Bernedal wrote: > Hi all. > Is it possible to make a accessible installation from the dvd of ubuntu? > What is the big difference between the dvd and live cd regarding > installation? The DVD contains both the altnerate, and desktop install methods, and you can choose which one to boot when the CD boots. As I have not looked at the DVD myself, I am unsure as to how to go about starting it. If you can wait for a few days, I will obtain the DVD, and have a look myself when I get home from my rip. Thanks Luke -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIMnNFjVefwtBjIM4RAshdAKCv03TYPGk0rloZ95PYRW0RbKN3KACguZJi TWWWbwc/90lF7VuOVENoBLU= =IYnq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From aerospace1028 at hotmail.com Tue May 20 12:30:36 2008 From: aerospace1028 at hotmail.com (aerospace1028 at hotmail.com) Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 08:30:36 -0400 Subject: braille Message-ID: Greetings all, I can get my braillenote to work as a braille display alright, but is there a way to transfer files to and from the computer to the braillenote like in windows with ActiveSync? _________________________________________________________________ Make every e-mail and IM count. Join the i’m Initiative from Microsoft. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=EML_WL_ MakeCount From mj at mjw.se Wed May 21 00:03:28 2008 From: mj at mjw.se (mattias) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 02:03:28 +0200 Subject: good swedish syntheziser Message-ID: <000601c8bad6$191b0cf0$f717e255@jonsson> i searching fo ra good software swedish syntheziser any tip? not espeak or mbrola ----- mattias mobil 0763396420 www.mjw.se -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bethko at gmail.com Wed May 21 01:43:21 2008 From: bethko at gmail.com (bethko at gmail.com) Date: 20 May 2008 18:43:21 -0700 Subject: Join Beth Koenig on Yahoo! Messenger! Message-ID: Beth Koenig wants to talk with you using Yahoo! 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By using Yahoo! Messenger you agree to not use PC-to-PC calling in countries where prohibited. The above features apply to the Windows version of Yahoo! Messenger. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tony.bernedal at gmail.com Wed May 21 05:17:26 2008 From: tony.bernedal at gmail.com (Tony Bernedal) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 07:17:26 +0200 Subject: best screen reader with speech for the text console Message-ID: <12C4DF80272A456A91CDB401F148536B@hemmapc2> Hi there all What is the best solution for speech only in the text console? No braile. It looks like speakup is gone from ubuntu, but is there any other screen reader that works good? All the best Tony Hälsningar Tony ---------------------- Lyssna på Lördagsmys på www.radiomix.no lördagar 19 - 21. ------------------------------ From covici at ccs.covici.com Wed May 21 05:21:10 2008 From: covici at ccs.covici.com (John covici) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 01:21:10 -0400 Subject: best screen reader with speech for the text console In-Reply-To: <12C4DF80272A456A91CDB401F148536B@hemmapc2> References: <12C4DF80272A456A91CDB401F148536B@hemmapc2> Message-ID: <18483.45382.132273.71993@ccs.covici.com> I still think speakup is the best -- you will have to do some work to get it, however its well worth the doing. on Wednesday 05/21/2008 Tony Bernedal(tony.bernedal at gmail.com) wrote > Hi there all > What is the best solution for speech only in the text console? No braile. > It looks like speakup is gone from ubuntu, but is there any other screen > reader that works good? > All the best Tony > > Hälsningar Tony > ---------------------- > Lyssna på Lördagsmys på www.radiomix.no lördagar 19 - 21. > ------------------------------ > > > -- > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici covici at ccs.covici.com From kenny at hittsjunk.net Wed May 21 05:44:12 2008 From: kenny at hittsjunk.net (Kenny Hitt) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 00:44:12 -0500 Subject: best screen reader with speech for the text console In-Reply-To: <12C4DF80272A456A91CDB401F148536B@hemmapc2> References: <12C4DF80272A456A91CDB401F148536B@hemmapc2> Message-ID: <20080521054412.GC17201@hittsjunk.net> hi. you might want to check out yasr. sudo apt-get install yasr To be honest, i run all console apps in gnome-terminals now, so don't use a console screen reader any more. Kenny On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 07:17:26AM +0200, Tony Bernedal wrote: > Hi there all > What is the best solution for speech only in the text console? No braile. > It looks like speakup is gone from ubuntu, but is there any other screen > reader that works good? > All the best Tony > > Hälsningar Tony > ---------------------- > Lyssna på Lördagsmys på www.radiomix.no lördagar 19 - 21. > ------------------------------ > > > -- > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility From tony.bernedal at gmail.com Wed May 21 06:30:40 2008 From: tony.bernedal at gmail.com (Tony Bernedal) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 08:30:40 +0200 Subject: best screen reader with speech for the text console In-Reply-To: <12C4DF80272A456A91CDB401F148536B@hemmapc2> References: <12C4DF80272A456A91CDB401F148536B@hemmapc2> Message-ID: Hi. Many thanks. How can I get speakup for ubuntu? Any docs out there. Maybe yasr is a good alternative, I'll try that. All the best Tony 2008/5/21, Tony Bernedal : > Hi there all > What is the best solution for speech only in the text console? No braile. > It looks like speakup is gone from ubuntu, but is there any other screen > reader that works good? > All the best Tony > > Hälsningar Tony > ---------------------- > Lyssna på Lördagsmys på www.radiomix.no lördagar 19 - 21. > ------------------------------ > > -- Hälsningar Tony ----------- Lyssna på lördagsmys lördagar kl 19 - 21 på www.radiomix.no From mj at mjw.se Wed May 21 11:23:42 2008 From: mj at mjw.se (mattias) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 13:23:42 +0200 Subject: voxin Message-ID: <000001c8bb35$2029f2e0$f717e255@jonsson> anyone purchaed voxin? i give a certificate error when try ----- mattias mobil 0763396420 www.mjw.se -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steve at fullmeasure.co.uk Wed May 21 12:37:39 2008 From: steve at fullmeasure.co.uk (Steve Lee) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 13:37:39 +0100 Subject: voxin In-Reply-To: <000001c8bb35$2029f2e0$f717e255@jonsson> References: <000001c8bb35$2029f2e0$f717e255@jonsson> Message-ID: <6a4dbccf0805210537i768c40d2n8cd061dd564541e0@mail.gmail.com> hey Mattias, I just looked it up to see what voxin was and the home pages voxin.oralux.net/ says ' *Warning (20 May 2008): Our Paypal certificate has expired and purchasing Voxin via Paypal or Credit Card is not currently possible. The European bank transfers remain possible. Sorry for this annoyance, we are working to reactivate the Paypal payments as soon as possible.' Cheers -- Steve Lee -- Open Source Assistive Technology Software web: fullmeasure.co.uk blog: eduspaces.net/stevelee/weblog Stev On 21/05/2008, mattias wrote: > > > anyone purchaed voxin? > i give a certificate error when try > > > ----- > mattias > mobil 0763396420 > www.mjw.se > > -- > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility > > From richwels at samobile.net Sat May 24 19:52:58 2008 From: richwels at samobile.net (Richard Wells) Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 15:52:58 -0400 Subject: TTSYNTH, Orca And Ubuntu 8.04 Message-ID: <20080524195258.30222.62030@biff.serotek.com> Hello, This has probably been covered here but... Could someone point me to what else I need to do? I have installed the needed legacy libraries. I have installed the deb package for TTSYNTH. I have downloaded and rebuilt gnome-speech 0.419 and viavoice was detected. I still cannot see it as a choice from test-speech and of course orca doesn't see it either. What else am I missing? -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. From mj at mjw.se Sat May 24 20:11:10 2008 From: mj at mjw.se (mattias) Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 22:11:10 +0200 Subject: loquendo Message-ID: <000001c8bdda$4f042110$1117e255@jonsson> anyone no if loquedno rely exist for linux? ----- mattias mobil 0763396420 www.mjw.se -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From debee at jfcl.com Mon May 26 02:05:32 2008 From: debee at jfcl.com (Deborah Norling) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 19:05:32 -0700 Subject: Orca dies halfway thru Hardy install Message-ID: <000001c8bed4$fb65b4f0$8201010a@Reason> This is Hardy, the current release. ISO has been checked for integrity using the official Ubuntu hashes and the CD has been checked using the md5sum.txt file in the root directory of the CD. The PC is a Fujitsu lifebook 2010C laptop. It's got 512MB of RAM, a 40GB hard drive and it's a Pentium 4 running at 1.5GHZ. It has no serial port, so a aheadless install isn't possible. The first install worked great. I just picked all defaults. But this was just a test install. I am now ready to set up my final partitioning, so I need to do a final re-install. I get through the partitioner fine. I love this partitioner -- so user-friendly. I set up separate partitions for /home /var and /backup without difficulty, and move on to step 5. At Step 5, I'm supposed to supply my full name, user ID and password. Somewhere in filling out those fields, Orca dies. Sometimes it dies at the full name field and sometimes while typing in the password. My husband, who is sighted, finished the install for me. It worked fine, but Orca wasn't talking. He was able to quit Orca but not rerun it again -- apparently a full window manager isn't loaded at this point. I tried having him press Alt-F2 but no run prompt appears. I've tried this install a couple of times now, and I can't figure out if Orca is dying when I type fast or if it is this particular step that gets it flummoxed somehow. I'd like to avoid needing to repeatedly ask him to read the screen. Could I for example ssh or telnet to the partially installed system to get Orca going again? Are there other keystrokes I can use to kill/relaunch Orca? Later: tried again doing a full install without changing any defaults -- Orca didn't crash but I have a system that is using the entire disk instead of partitioned the way I want. Any help would be appreciated. --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tate886 at gmail.com Mon May 26 11:26:43 2008 From: tate886 at gmail.com (ANN) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 07:26:43 -0400 Subject: Cleaning up partitionmess on dual boot system Message-ID: <483A9E73.6070507@gmail.com> Hi folks, I recently tried to install the latest Ubuntu Linux on an external hard drive. It was kind of a disaster at first, so I ended up putting it on my internal drive, instead. I have a dual boot system with XP Home also on that 80 GB drive. My big complaint is that, when I chose the Resize option to install the Ubuntu partition along side my Windows one, the Ubuntu side literally took up almost all my free space for its partition, more then 35 GB of space. I don't have enough left now for my XP to run comfortably. Is there an accessible tool that I can use, with the orca screen reader, to safely and nondestructively resize my Window partition to get a good chunk of the space taken by the Ubuntu partition? Or, resize the Ubuntu partition and make it smaller then extend the Windows partition? I don't need a Ubuntu partition nearly that large. thanks. ~Ann From themuso at ubuntu.com Mon May 26 21:44:02 2008 From: themuso at ubuntu.com (Luke Yelavich) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 07:44:02 +1000 Subject: Cleaning up partitionmess on dual boot system In-Reply-To: <483A9E73.6070507@gmail.com> References: <483A9E73.6070507@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080526214402.GA15233@marin.yelavich.home> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 09:26:43PM EST, ANN wrote: > Hi folks, > > I recently tried to install the latest Ubuntu Linux on an external hard > drive. It was kind of a disaster at first, so I ended up putting it on > my internal drive, instead. I have a dual boot system with XP Home also > on that 80 GB drive. > Is there an accessible tool that I can use, with the orca screen reader, > to safely and nondestructively resize my Window partition to get a good > chunk of the space taken by the Ubuntu partition? What you will need to do, is use a live CD to completely delete the Ubuntu partitions, and resize the windows partition to the size you want. Once you have done this, you can re-create the Ubuntu partitions and re-install. There is no way to resize the ubuntu partitions from the beginning of the partitions, only the end. So you will have to back up any important data from ubuntu that you need. I believe the gparted utility on the live CD can help you do the above. I would advise you to make sure you have everything important backed up, in case something happens and you destroy your disk. Hope this helps. Luke -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIOy8ijVefwtBjIM4RAo8qAKDOZjKm3Xk53rGw5auBATlgm1sXygCfZaKU ZXOOSlZX6qe3pQlywB3CuHY= =h7/5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From tate886 at gmail.com Mon May 26 22:33:20 2008 From: tate886 at gmail.com (ANN) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 18:33:20 -0400 Subject: Cleaning up partitionmess on dual boot system In-Reply-To: <20080526214402.GA15233@marin.yelavich.home> References: <483A9E73.6070507@gmail.com> <20080526214402.GA15233@marin.yelavich.home> Message-ID: <483B3AB0.8010400@gmail.com> Hi, Thanks for the reply. I hope Orca works well with parted from the live CD. I don't have any data at all to worry about on my Ubuntu partitions. And, I just got a new secondary internal hard drive that I can use, the whole disk, for Ubuntu this time. thanks again. ~Ann Luke Yelavich wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 09:26:43PM EST, ANN wrote: > >> Hi folks, >> >> I recently tried to install the latest Ubuntu Linux on an external hard >> drive. It was kind of a disaster at first, so I ended up putting it on >> my internal drive, instead. I have a dual boot system with XP Home also >> on that 80 GB drive. >> > > >> Is there an accessible tool that I can use, with the orca screen reader, >> to safely and nondestructively resize my Window partition to get a good >> chunk of the space taken by the Ubuntu partition? >> > > What you will need to do, is use a live CD to completely delete the Ubuntu partitions, and resize the windows partition to the size you want. Once you have done this, you can re-create the Ubuntu partitions and re-install. There is no way to resize the ubuntu partitions from the beginning of the partitions, only the end. So you will have to back up any important data from ubuntu that you need. > > I believe the gparted utility on the live CD can help you do the above. I would advise you to make sure you have everything important backed up, in case something happens and you destroy your disk. > > Hope this helps. > > Luke > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFIOy8ijVefwtBjIM4RAo8qAKDOZjKm3Xk53rGw5auBATlgm1sXygCfZaKU > ZXOOSlZX6qe3pQlywB3CuHY= > =h7/5 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > From everett at zufelt.ca Sat May 31 16:44:12 2008 From: everett at zufelt.ca (E.J. Zufelt) Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 13:44:12 -0300 Subject: Installation and resizing NTFS partition Message-ID: <002401c8c33d$8ed87170$0b02a8c0@LIFEBOOK> Good afternoon, I am trying to install Ubuntu for the first time today. I am quite happy with the fact that I can do this on my own. One question, I have a 60GB NTFS partition that needs to be resized to make space for Ubuntu. I can't seem to access any field in the "Edit Partition" dialog to allow me to change the size of this partition using Orca, any suggestions? Thank you, Everett -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From everett at zufelt.ca Sat May 31 21:57:09 2008 From: everett at zufelt.ca (E.J. Zufelt) Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 18:57:09 -0300 Subject: Orca at Login Message-ID: <000801c8c369$4729c000$0b02a8c0@LIFEBOOK> Good evening, I have successfully installed Ubuntu 8.04 on my laptop. I am wondering where, if possible, I can go to enable Orca to speak at the Ubuntu login screen? Thank you, Everett -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: