From steve at fullmeasure.co.uk Sat Nov 1 15:55:40 2008 From: steve at fullmeasure.co.uk (Steve Lee) Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 15:55:40 +0000 Subject: New developer In-Reply-To: <490777D7.8040403@brailcom.org> References: <513591.84958.qm@web54109.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <490777D7.8040403@brailcom.org> Message-ID: Hi Tom, I'm also in the UK and started on in embedded/realtime (many moons ago). Your work sounds great. I'm wondering if you are thinking of wrapping SD as a SAPI voice or taking the simpler path of providing a facade from SD for the SAPI application inteface? To be honest the later would be great, and for me say() plus some of the basic XML markup would keep me happy for ages (plus a user interface or api for voice settings). To be honest the main advantage I can see for implementing the speech engine interfaces would be to help grow the non existance selection of good free SAPI voices. But I guess a lot more work would be needed to create voices that are cross platform. I also sencond Francesco and Willie for the alternative input vote. FWIIW I have created a couple of projects that might provide ideas in this space. The earlier version of Jambu (jambu.fullmeasure.co.uk) is a OSK type user interface using SVG and a GTK custom widget. To be honest it is really a very raw proof of concept. More recently Maavis (http://www.assembla.com/wiki/show/maavis) uses the Mozilla platform to provide very simple OSK UI, primarily for touch (pointer) access, but switch is planned. -- Steve Lee Open Source Assistive Technology Software and Accessibility fullmeasure.co.uk 2008/10/28 Tomas Cerha : > Tom Lloyd wrote: >> Just wanted to say Hi and to get myself known. I have been using Ubuntu for= >> three or so years. I am a 26 year old developer from the UK trained in Emb= >> edded / Realtime systems. As a side project I am intergrating SAPI into Ubu= >> ntu to gives access to the MS speech engines using speech dispatcher. > > Hello Tom, > > This sounds exciting. It might be an interesting option and I'd like to > invite you to discuss this on the Speech Dispatcher mailing list, since > similar ideas have been already touched there. > > Best regards, > > Tomas > > -- > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility > From kb8aey at verizon.net Sat Nov 1 19:02:17 2008 From: kb8aey at verizon.net (mike coulombe) Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 14:02:17 -0500 (CDT) Subject: I noticested something strange with orca Message-ID: <0K9O00H2T4VS8N41@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, I was playing around with making drawers in intrepid. What I found is that if you add one idem in a menu it adds all of that menu to the drawer. But the strange thing I discovered is when going through the preferences menu orca reads the items fine. But, when reading the same items when they are added to a drawer I also get a message telling about the idem. I assume this message is visible to sighted people in the actual menu, so why doesn't orca read the info about items in the menus like it does when they are in drawers? Mike. From William.Walker at Sun.COM Sun Nov 2 00:01:01 2008 From: William.Walker at Sun.COM (Willie Walker) Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 20:01:01 -0400 Subject: I noticested something strange with orca In-Reply-To: <0K9O00H2T4VS8N41@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> References: <0K9O00H2T4VS8N41@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <1225584061.28866.24.camel@wwalker-laptop> Hi Mike: I tried reproducing this by adding a drawer applet to the top panel and then adding the GNOME Main Menu to the drawer. When I navigate the drawer, things seem to read the same as the regular main menu. How are you reproducing the problem? Will On Sat, 2008-11-01 at 14:02 -0500, mike coulombe wrote: > Hi, I was playing around with making drawers in intrepid. What I found is that if you add one idem in a menu it adds all of that menu to the drawer. > But the strange thing I discovered is when going through the preferences menu orca reads the items fine. > But, when reading the same items when they are added to a drawer I also get a message telling about the idem. I assume this message is visible to sighted people in the actual menu, so why doesn't orca read the info about items in the menus like it does when they are in drawers? > Mike. > From kb8aey at verizon.net Sun Nov 2 02:20:09 2008 From: kb8aey at verizon.net (mike coulombe) Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 21:20:09 -0500 (CDT) Subject: a question about vbox Message-ID: <0K9O003B3P5K5322@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> Ok, I tried vbox and it does seem to work with orca. What is the correct way to use it? For example I do not see a way to pick a image, and once you press run the CD spins but it is not accessible from that point. Am I missing something. The program does seem to read the menus fine. Mike. From bruce.couper at gmail.com Mon Nov 3 18:04:39 2008 From: bruce.couper at gmail.com (Bruce Couper) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 13:04:39 -0500 Subject: New developer In-Reply-To: <4906F2F1.4040806@gmx.net> References: <513591.84958.qm@web54109.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20081027234828.GA13824@brainz.yelavich.home> <4906F2F1.4040806@gmx.net> Message-ID: <629e09ac0811031004lb361776m10d504744d6956a3@mail.gmail.com> Hi Francesco, All A few comments from a quite disabled speech-recognition user and light user of Ubuntu through VNC (to learn and help with wife's and friends' computers): Speech recognition is the barrier for some of us adopting GNU/Linux, Ubuntu. Echoing an earlier post, as much as I support open source I would be prepared to pay for the commercial product (NaturallySpeaking) if it were ported. Arguments that doing so would be prohibitively expensive seem refuted by the recent porting of the basic speech engine to Macs. The owners of NaturallySpeaking do not seem inclined to listen to users but if someone has any suggestion for having someone at Canonical making contact... Otherwise, there would be a great deal of work, as I understand it, needed to make what now exists (Sphinx) usable. Using Wine might provide dictation but no command and control. Dasher is actually very good and, in my limited experience, does a pretty good job of word prediction and learning. However, as you alluded to, the last build I looked at under Ubuntu no longer supported outputting text to an active window rather than just the Dasher text area, making it far less useful than it should be. Older versions (at least under Windows) did have the option of outputting text to another active window and, if I recall, there has been some recent change involving development of the application. I think it is a very promising application for some users and it supports many input methods (switches, eye tracking etc.). I'm 55, not a coder and limited now to speech-recognition. I offer my support, occasional humble notes and, if I may, whatever have one can provide in documentation in the future. Cheers On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 6:09 AM, Francesco Fumanti wrote: > Hello Tom, > > > There is another accessibility area that lags behind what is already > available for years on Windows and Macs: a good accessibility tool for > people that can only use the pointer. > > - There is the gnome onscreen keyboard gok, but it is more geared > towards switch users. Several modifications would be necessary to > improve it for pointer only users. Other improvements have been noted on > this page: http://live.gnome.org/Gok > The current maintainer of gok only has very little time to devote to it, > so that only the most urgent problems have been looked after. > > - There is the onscreen keyboard onboard: onboard, which has been mostly > programed in python, is probably the most usable onscreen keyboard > available on GNOME for pointer only users. However, it is still a basic > onscreen keyboard that lacks efficiency features like word prediction > and autoponctuation. Moreover, it does not support switch input yet. I > suppose that not only the accessibility users, but also the tabletpc > users would appropriate having somebody that takes onboard to the next > level. > https://edge.launchpad.net/onboard > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accessibility/Projects/onBoard > > - Another starting point to build an efficient onscreen keyboard could > be the matchbox-keyboard, but as it is not originally geared towards > GNOME. http://matchbox-project.org/overview.html > > - There is kvkbd for KDE, that I have not really look into yet. > > - There is dasher with its unusual input method that looks more like a > game than an accessibility (this is not intended in a negative way). > dasher is said to have a good word prediction, but it completely lacks > desktop control and the written text goes into a pane in dasher instead > of going into the front window. I don't know whether the word prediction > of dasher can be used in a "classic" onscreen keyboard. > > > As you see, there is also much left to do for pointer only users. It is > not the area that you talked about in your mail, but one can never know; > therefore this reply. > > > Anyway, if you are going to pick up one of these to take it to the next > level, please contact me and I will help with what I can (ideas, > testing, documentation,...). > > > Cheers > > Francesco > > > > Luke Yelavich wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 >> >> On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 10:23:43AM EST, Tom Lloyd wrote: >>> Hello All, >>> >>> >>> Just wanted to say Hi and to get myself known. I have been using >>> Ubuntu for= three or so years. I am a 26 year old developer from >>> the UK trained in Emb= edded / Realtime systems. As a side project >>> I am intergrating SAPI into Ubu= ntu to gives access to the MS >>> speech engines using speech dispatcher. >> >> This is awesome news, and depending on how far along your work is, >> may be enough of a reason to push for using speech-dispatcher as the >> speech backend for orca in the next Ubuntu release. >> >>> I use compiz for zoon, so i could be intrested in working to >>> improve speech= and magnification under ubuntu, suggestions for >>> projects welcome.=20 >> >> We certainly need help in improving the state of magnification in >> Ubuntu. It works, but badly. What really needs doing is integrating >> the eZoom compiz plugin with Orca, as well as cleaning up Orca's >> speech-dispatcher support to be of similar quality to its support for >> gnome-speech. I plan to more tightly integrate speech-dispatcher for >> Ubuntu next cycle, due to its more flexible nature compared to >> gnome-speech. >> >> In short, integration is what we lack for accessibility in Ubuntu. >> The tools are there, but they need to be tied to gether in a way that >> makes them work seemlessly with each other, i.e eZoom/gnome-mag and >> orca, speech-dispatcher and orca, etc. >> >> Thanks for your offer of assistance, it would be much appreciated. >> >> Luke -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) >> >> iEYEARECAAYFAkkGU0wACgkQjVefwtBjIM4H2wCfXQj0ZSV4whOAqyUcPloc5VyW >> Mn8AoK7NxudfeWOk9B/uAnIq8NBJ0p2o =t73s -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> > > > -- > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility > From francesco.fumanti at gmx.net Mon Nov 3 21:21:13 2008 From: francesco.fumanti at gmx.net (Francesco Fumanti) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 22:21:13 +0100 Subject: New developer In-Reply-To: <629e09ac0811031004lb361776m10d504744d6956a3@mail.gmail.com> References: <513591.84958.qm@web54109.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20081027234828.GA13824@brainz.yelavich.home> <4906F2F1.4040806@gmx.net> <629e09ac0811031004lb361776m10d504744d6956a3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <490F6B49.7020604@gmx.net> Hello Bruce, It occurs to me now that I completely missed the topic about speech recognition in my previous email. Thanks for supplying that information. Concerning the control of the desktop: users that are able to move the pointer can completely control the GNOME desktop by using the onscreen keyboard onboard that ships with Ubuntu (if there are not things that I don't know about). By using the features (software clicks) provided by the Accessibility tab of the mouse control panel, they even don't need to be able to click. It is also possible to use onboard and the software clicks during gdm, once gdm has been properly configured. What I am missing, are efficiency features like word prediction and autoponctuation. Cheers Francesco Bruce Couper wrote: > Hi Francesco, All > > A few comments from a quite disabled speech-recognition user and light > user of Ubuntu through VNC (to learn and help with wife's and friends' > computers): > > Speech recognition is the barrier for some of us adopting GNU/Linux, > Ubuntu. Echoing an earlier post, as much as I support open source I > would be prepared to pay for the commercial product > (NaturallySpeaking) if it were ported. Arguments that doing so would > be prohibitively expensive seem refuted by the recent porting of the > basic speech engine to Macs. The owners of NaturallySpeaking do not > seem inclined to listen to users but if someone has any suggestion for > having someone at Canonical making contact... > > Otherwise, there would be a great deal of work, as I understand it, > needed to make what now exists (Sphinx) usable. > > Using Wine might provide dictation but no command and control. > > Dasher is actually very good and, in my limited experience, does a > pretty good job of word prediction and learning. However, as you > alluded to, the last build I looked at under Ubuntu no longer > supported outputting text to an active window rather than just the > Dasher text area, making it far less useful than it should be. Older > versions (at least under Windows) did have the option of outputting > text to another active window and, if I recall, there has been some > recent change involving development of the application. I think it is > a very promising application for some users and it supports many input > methods (switches, eye tracking etc.). > > I'm 55, not a coder and limited now to speech-recognition. I offer my > support, occasional humble notes and, if I may, whatever have one can > provide in documentation in the future. > > Cheers > > On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 6:09 AM, Francesco Fumanti > wrote: >> Hello Tom, >> >> >> There is another accessibility area that lags behind what is already >> available for years on Windows and Macs: a good accessibility tool for >> people that can only use the pointer. >> >> - There is the gnome onscreen keyboard gok, but it is more geared >> towards switch users. Several modifications would be necessary to >> improve it for pointer only users. Other improvements have been noted on >> this page: http://live.gnome.org/Gok >> The current maintainer of gok only has very little time to devote to it, >> so that only the most urgent problems have been looked after. >> >> - There is the onscreen keyboard onboard: onboard, which has been mostly >> programed in python, is probably the most usable onscreen keyboard >> available on GNOME for pointer only users. However, it is still a basic >> onscreen keyboard that lacks efficiency features like word prediction >> and autoponctuation. Moreover, it does not support switch input yet. I >> suppose that not only the accessibility users, but also the tabletpc >> users would appropriate having somebody that takes onboard to the next >> level. >> https://edge.launchpad.net/onboard >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accessibility/Projects/onBoard >> >> - Another starting point to build an efficient onscreen keyboard could >> be the matchbox-keyboard, but as it is not originally geared towards >> GNOME. http://matchbox-project.org/overview.html >> >> - There is kvkbd for KDE, that I have not really look into yet. >> >> - There is dasher with its unusual input method that looks more like a >> game than an accessibility (this is not intended in a negative way). >> dasher is said to have a good word prediction, but it completely lacks >> desktop control and the written text goes into a pane in dasher instead >> of going into the front window. I don't know whether the word prediction >> of dasher can be used in a "classic" onscreen keyboard. >> >> >> As you see, there is also much left to do for pointer only users. It is >> not the area that you talked about in your mail, but one can never know; >> therefore this reply. >> >> >> Anyway, if you are going to pick up one of these to take it to the next >> level, please contact me and I will help with what I can (ideas, >> testing, documentation,...). >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Francesco >> >> >> >> Luke Yelavich wrote: >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 10:23:43AM EST, Tom Lloyd wrote: >>>> Hello All, >>>> >>>> >>>> Just wanted to say Hi and to get myself known. I have been using >>>> Ubuntu for= three or so years. I am a 26 year old developer from >>>> the UK trained in Emb= edded / Realtime systems. As a side project >>>> I am intergrating SAPI into Ubu= ntu to gives access to the MS >>>> speech engines using speech dispatcher. >>> This is awesome news, and depending on how far along your work is, >>> may be enough of a reason to push for using speech-dispatcher as the >>> speech backend for orca in the next Ubuntu release. >>> >>>> I use compiz for zoon, so i could be intrested in working to >>>> improve speech= and magnification under ubuntu, suggestions for >>>> projects welcome.=20 >>> We certainly need help in improving the state of magnification in >>> Ubuntu. It works, but badly. What really needs doing is integrating >>> the eZoom compiz plugin with Orca, as well as cleaning up Orca's >>> speech-dispatcher support to be of similar quality to its support for >>> gnome-speech. I plan to more tightly integrate speech-dispatcher for >>> Ubuntu next cycle, due to its more flexible nature compared to >>> gnome-speech. >>> >>> In short, integration is what we lack for accessibility in Ubuntu. >>> The tools are there, but they need to be tied to gether in a way that >>> makes them work seemlessly with each other, i.e eZoom/gnome-mag and >>> orca, speech-dispatcher and orca, etc. >>> >>> Thanks for your offer of assistance, it would be much appreciated. >>> >>> Luke -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) >>> >>> iEYEARECAAYFAkkGU0wACgkQjVefwtBjIM4H2wCfXQj0ZSV4whOAqyUcPloc5VyW >>> Mn8AoK7NxudfeWOk9B/uAnIq8NBJ0p2o =t73s -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >>> >> >> -- >> Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list >> Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility >> > From kb8aey at verizon.net Tue Nov 4 03:44:14 2008 From: kb8aey at verizon.net (mike) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 21:44:14 -0600 (CST) Subject: I have a question about the release cd of intrepid? Message-ID: <0K9S00BYTIDQ64M9@vms042.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, is the latest live CD the same CD you get if you download the final release of intrepid from a mirror on the ubuntu download page? I notice the latest live CD shows a date of the 29 and the server shows the 28 on their daily CD. Mike. X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 081103-0, 11/03/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean From rbrk66 at gmail.com Tue Nov 4 17:16:41 2008 From: rbrk66 at gmail.com (babu) Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 20:16:41 +0300 Subject: dpkg configure help Message-ID: <1225819001.6595.17.camel@babu-laptop> hello, when opening synaptic package manager, E:dpkg was interrupted,you must manually run dpkg --configure -a to correct problem,E:_cache->open()failed,please report message is coming. Need help. Babu From rbrk66 at gmail.com Thu Nov 6 15:12:23 2008 From: rbrk66 at gmail.com (babu) Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 18:12:23 +0300 Subject: fonts installation Message-ID: <1225984343.6232.25.camel@babu-laptop> Hello, I want to read tamil daily newspaper maalaimalar. The required font is Eltpan-n.ttf and unable to install. But I am able to read Dailythanthi, where as both the newspaper give the same font.Can anyone help to solve this problem. Babu. From kb8aey at verizon.net Thu Nov 6 16:13:41 2008 From: kb8aey at verizon.net (mike) Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 10:13:41 -0600 (CST) Subject: I have questions about two programs and their use with orca Message-ID: <0K9X00DUH6ESTU30@vms044.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, first I see the movie player now lets you search for videos and music to listen to. My question is, I can search, but I see no way to hear the list found with Orca. I know things were found because pressing play starts a song playing. Does anyone know if the list found can be red with Orca and how to do it? I am trying to use the arrow keys. Second. Has anyone tried to create a video CD using the built in program in ubuntu? This program seems to work well with Orca. I can pick files and even get to the burn button. But after that all I hear is to choose a disc. I can do this, but using tab never takes me to a button to start writing the CD or DVD. Has anyone had any experience with this? Thanks Mike. From tony at bernedal.net Fri Nov 7 07:43:45 2008 From: tony at bernedal.net (Tony Bernedal) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 08:43:45 +0100 Subject: ubuntu 8.10 textinstaller and braille Message-ID: Hi all Is it possible to start the alternative textinstaller cd with brltty? I did that before on ubuntu 7.10 and that worked fine. I tried the same keystrokes for 8.10 but I can't start brltty. If it's not possible to run brltty on the cd, can anyone point me to some good resources to make my own cd wich starts brltty and make it possible to run the installer. Many thanks. Tony From chmiel at phil.muni.cz Fri Nov 7 18:20:20 2008 From: chmiel at phil.muni.cz (Mgr. Janusz Chmiel) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 19:20:20 +0100 Subject: is Abiword compatible with At-spi architecture and could be made fully accessible with Orca? References: <0K9X00DUH6ESTU30@vms044.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <418D7616DE834C80860A411713B8CBEA@IBM769BEB8EC3A> Dear core developers of Orca and other users, Do You think, that Abiword could be made accessible with Orca, now, I found out, that many dialogs are accessible without problems, including all menus, but navigation inside opened or newly created document is not available with Orca. Orca can not read and intereact when User is pressing arrow keys or Del and Backspace. Could be possible to also access this edit area in Abiword, or this is not possible, because there are no possibility to get text from this document area, because it is not compatible with At-spi? I AM aware, that openoffice package is fully accessible, but when Abiword is also presented, may be, that it could be possible to make some scripts for accessing document content in Abiword too. If no, please try to tell Me, why is not possible from programmers wiev. Thank You for Your answer. The kindness regards. Janusz Chmiel From kb8aey at verizon.net Fri Nov 7 22:55:45 2008 From: kb8aey at verizon.net (mike) Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 16:55:45 -0600 (CST) Subject: I have a question about file browsers Message-ID: <0K9Z006VGJOVHQP4@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, in the dos days there was a nice little program called sdir. It was a file browser that once ran let you use the arrow keys to look at different files. If I remember correctly, sdir even let you change to different drives. Does anyone know if there are any file browsers like this for Linux? X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 081107-0, 11/07/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Mike. From kb8aey at verizon.net Sat Nov 8 04:34:41 2008 From: kb8aey at verizon.net (mike coulombe) Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 22:34:41 -0600 (CST) Subject: is there a way to un mute sound with the key board Message-ID: <0K9Z00LBYZDTPXC5@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, My kids use one of my computers. They mute the sound and sometimes forget to un mute it. Is there anyway to un mute the sound using a keyboard command from the desktop or from the terminal? Mike. From samuel.thibault at ens-lyon.org Sat Nov 8 08:53:37 2008 From: samuel.thibault at ens-lyon.org (Samuel Thibault) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 09:53:37 +0100 Subject: I have a question about file browsers In-Reply-To: <0K9Z006VGJOVHQP4@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> References: <0K9Z006VGJOVHQP4@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <20081108085337.GA4953@const.famille.thibault.fr> mike, le Fri 07 Nov 2008 16:55:45 -0600, a écrit : > Hi, in the dos days there was a nice little program called sdir. It was a file browser that once ran let you use the arrow keys to look at different files. If I remember correctly, sdir even let you change to different drives. > Does anyone know if there are any file browsers like this for Linux? Midnight Commander (mc) for instance? Samuel From samuel.thibault at ens-lyon.org Sat Nov 8 08:54:12 2008 From: samuel.thibault at ens-lyon.org (Samuel Thibault) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 09:54:12 +0100 Subject: is there a way to un mute sound with the key board In-Reply-To: <0K9Z00LBYZDTPXC5@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> References: <0K9Z00LBYZDTPXC5@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <20081108085412.GB4953@const.famille.thibault.fr> mike coulombe, le Fri 07 Nov 2008 22:34:41 -0600, a écrit : > Hi, My kids use one of my computers. They mute the sound and sometimes forget to un mute it. Is there anyway to un mute the sound using a keyboard command from the desktop or from the terminal? You can use alsamixer or aumix to control the mixer settings. Samuel From kb8aey at verizon.net Sun Nov 9 20:07:50 2008 From: kb8aey at verizon.net (mike coulombe) Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2008 14:07:50 -0600 (CST) Subject: I'm having problems installing on a dell Message-ID: <0KA3006SK191D7QB@vms044.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, ubuntu works well on most of the computers I have tried it on. But I have one dell that for some reason doesn't like it. Intrepid works fine if run from the live CD. But when I installed it inside windows. It finished the install, but never did boot up to a screen when I rebooted the computer. It did finish and reboot, but for some reason Ubuntu will not run if installed on that machine. Mike. From gquigs at gmail.com Thu Nov 13 01:43:08 2008 From: gquigs at gmail.com (Bryan Quigley) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:43:08 -0500 Subject: Automatically start mouse/keyboard if other is not present Message-ID: <2e117fdb0811121743j73da50aewbd7f5b68e892a71f@mail.gmail.com> I have a feature that I have done work on that I would like to be included in Intrepid. I previously got input on how to make it work on the ubuntu-x mailing list ( https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-x/2008-September/000216.html) Thanks to them, it now does work. To implement the MouseKeys (virtual mouse) part of this feature I need to include xkbset in Ubuntu, which unfortunately brings up the fact that we currently don't have any GUI way to turn on MouseKeys in the default Ubuntu install. This is fine for my feature with main inclusion of xkbset (which I need to make a bug for), however I don't like having hidden functionality like that. My questions are: Does anyone want to take the part of adding MouseKeys support to the already including mouse accessibility dialoug? Is there a general planed accessibility blueprint for Jaunty that I should add this to, or make my own? Thank You, Bryan Quigley -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kb8aey at verizon.net Thu Nov 13 18:25:48 2008 From: kb8aey at verizon.net (mike) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 12:25:48 -0600 (CST) Subject: I need a program Message-ID: <0KAA00B8RB70CUX3@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, as nice as the gnome power manager works, it doesn't have a feature to put the hard drive to sleep when it is idol. In dos there use to be a program called sleep that did this. Does anyone know if there is such a program for Linux? Mike. X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 081112-0, 11/12/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean From info at jbotscharow.com Fri Nov 14 15:09:29 2008 From: info at jbotscharow.com (John Botscharow) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 09:09:29 -0600 Subject: Chamgimg jyperlink color globally Message-ID: <1226675369.7705.12.camel@john-desktop> Greeting to all from northern Arkansa in the USA. I learned about this list a couple days ago from someone on the ubuntu-users list. I have a couple of accessibility issues, all related to my deteriorating vision - glaucoma and macular degeneration, so let's start with an easy one, at lrast I hope it is an easy one. I am using 8.10 with edubuntu desktop installed I use a customized version of the darkroom theme. My machine is an HP Pavillion with AMD 2.1 triple core processor and 4 gigs of RAM. I use dark background with light color fonts since I am also partially color blnd. I can read eveerything fine excpet hyperlinks, with the exception of Firefox where I can customize link colors Everywhere else, the links are blue, which I cannot read. I use Evolutin for email. I'd like to change that blue to a bright yellow or something similar. Is there a way to do that? Thanks! John Botscharow http://jbotscharow.com From mj at mjw.se Fri Nov 14 23:21:43 2008 From: mj at mjw.se (mattias) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 00:21:43 +0100 Subject: dectalk Message-ID: <000101c946af$c1470d10$5213e255@jonsson> Are gnome-speech-dectalk dropped from the new ubuntu intrepid? From sergionevess at gmail.com Sat Nov 15 08:17:49 2008 From: sergionevess at gmail.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?S=E9rgio_Neves?=) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 08:17:49 -0000 Subject: Sound problem with ubuntu 8.04.1 Message-ID: <6324D30A4C2D4A53A7C74600209D919C@ricardo> Hi, I have ubuntu 8.04.1 installed. Until yesterday, the system was well configured, with alsa enabled. But I damaged it when I thought on playing with the checkbox of service "sound management (alsa-utils)", on menu system -> administration -> services. Since this, the system no longer produces sound. With the help of my braille display, I've did what I know (which is not so much) to restore it: I enabled the same checkbox, went to gnome-volume-control and checked and unchecked the mute buttons, went to system -> preferences -> sessions and enabled and disabled pulseaudio, went to system -> preferences -> sound and put all the items to pulseaudio and after to alsa, restarted the system some times, but it continues without sound. What can I do to restore alsa? Or where can I found a tutorial with information about it to solve this problem? I wouldn't like to reinstall the system just because of a sound problem (it is well configured and working stable). Thanks Best regards Sérgio Neves From speakup at lists.tacticus.com Sat Nov 15 12:15:24 2008 From: speakup at lists.tacticus.com (luke) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 07:15:24 -0500 (EST) Subject: Intrepid Installer Doesn't Talk Message-ID: Hello I saw a couple of October messages about this in the archives, but I believe they were both before the official release. While orca comes up talking in the live CD portion of the desktop installer, the installer itself will not talk for me, on any of the systems on which I tried it. I don't know if there is supposed to be other sound in the installer, but I never hear the amp reset click which usually accompanies sound card detection either, let alone the startup sound which the livecd emits. I tried both the version of the desktop CD available from ubuntu.com's downloader, as well as the most recent daily build. Any word on what is (not) happening here, or how to fix it? Thanks and regards, Luke From kb8aey at verizon.net Sat Nov 15 21:01:30 2008 From: kb8aey at verizon.net (mike) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 15:01:30 -0600 (CST) Subject: will orca be updated in intrepid anymore Message-ID: <0KAE00HMA7QDKXB1@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, are we going to get anymore updates to Orca in intrepid when the new version comes out this month? Mike. From suelen.alencar at gmail.com Sun Nov 16 03:18:58 2008 From: suelen.alencar at gmail.com (Su) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 00:18:58 -0300 Subject: Help with Emacspeak Message-ID: Hi everybody, I am trying to install Emacspeak, but I am not able. I have doubts. Someone here did? If somebody please tell me! Thank yous and sorry for my English, he is not as good! Suelen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kb8aey at verizon.net Sun Nov 16 22:44:26 2008 From: kb8aey at verizon.net (mike) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 16:44:26 -0600 (CST) Subject: I came across this and thought it may be of interest to some of you Message-ID: <0KAG0091U761RN3G@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, I came across a accessible distro today called linuxspeaks. It is text based and still in early stages. However, it can be installed in ubuntu, which is why I am bringing it to your attention. The sight is www.joekamphaus.net. You have to run the installer as root, and after rebooting the command to run the program in terminal is mainmenu. I only briefly looked at the programs and basically it is a good front end to already reliable consul programs. Oh, be sure to stop Orca before typing mainmenu. Anyway, it sounds like this could be a nice thing to add to our ubuntu system. I haven't tried the e-mail program yet, but I will when I have some time. Mike. From s.bienlein at gmx.de Tue Nov 18 18:52:58 2008 From: s.bienlein at gmx.de (Simon Bienlein) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:52:58 +0100 Subject: ubuntu 8.10 textinstaller and braille References: Message-ID: <11E8670AB8F44DF480501F2ECBCD8490@simon> Hi Tony, the alternate install CD can be worked with a braille display. When you boot the CD, a list with all available languages will appear first. Here, you press the enter-key if you want to use the English language. Then, press F6. A line with boot parameters will appear. Here, enter your desired brltty parameter (e.g. brltty=ht,ttyS0,de) and confirm with the enter key. The installer will be started. After the installation, BrlTTY is not automatically started as in the file /etc/default/brltty the parameter RUN_BRLTTY is set on "no". Can this problem be fixed by developers or do I have to register with launchpad to submit a bug? HTH Simon From samuel.thibault at ens-lyon.org Tue Nov 18 18:59:02 2008 From: samuel.thibault at ens-lyon.org (Samuel Thibault) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:59:02 +0100 Subject: ubuntu 8.10 textinstaller and braille In-Reply-To: <11E8670AB8F44DF480501F2ECBCD8490@simon> References: <11E8670AB8F44DF480501F2ECBCD8490@simon> Message-ID: <20081118185902.GC5060@const.famille.thibault.fr> Simon Bienlein, le Tue 18 Nov 2008 19:52:58 +0100, a écrit : > After the installation, BrlTTY is not automatically started as in the > file /etc/default/brltty the parameter RUN_BRLTTY is set on "no". Can > this problem be fixed by developers or do I have to register with > launchpad to submit a bug? It'd probably be better to do the latter. Samuel From tony at bernedal.net Tue Nov 18 19:01:02 2008 From: tony at bernedal.net (tony at bernedal.net) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:01:02 +0100 Subject: ubuntu 8.10 textinstaller and braille In-Reply-To: <11E8670AB8F44DF480501F2ECBCD8490@simon> References: <11E8670AB8F44DF480501F2ECBCD8490@simon> Message-ID: Hi Simon. Many thanks for that. I'll try it with my alva satelite. All the best Tony 2008/11/18, Simon Bienlein : > Hi Tony, > > > > the alternate install CD can be worked with a braille display. When you > boot the CD, a list with all available languages will appear first. > Here, you press the enter-key if you want to use the English language. > Then, press F6. A line with boot parameters will appear. Here, enter > your desired brltty parameter (e.g. brltty=ht,ttyS0,de) and confirm with > the enter key. The installer will be started. > > > > After the installation, BrlTTY is not automatically started as in the > file /etc/default/brltty the parameter RUN_BRLTTY is set on "no". Can > this problem be fixed by developers or do I have to register with > launchpad to submit a bug? > > > > HTH > > Simon > > > > > -- > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility > From s.bienlein at gmx.de Wed Nov 19 20:52:01 2008 From: s.bienlein at gmx.de (Simon Bienlein) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 21:52:01 +0100 Subject: ubuntu 8.10 textinstaller and braille References: <11E8670AB8F44DF480501F2ECBCD8490@simon> <20081118185902.GC5060@const.famille.thibault.fr> Message-ID: <35AB748886884E5AB5121FE4529DAC0A@simon> Hi Samuel, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Samuel Thibault" To: "Simon Bienlein" Cc: "Tony Bernedal" ; Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 7:59 PM Subject: Re: ubuntu 8.10 textinstaller and braille > Simon Bienlein, le Tue 18 Nov 2008 19:52:58 +0100, a écrit : >> After the installation, BrlTTY is not automatically started as in the >> file /etc/default/brltty the parameter RUN_BRLTTY is set on "no". Can >> this problem be fixed by developers or do I have to register with >> launchpad to submit a bug? > > It'd probably be better to do the latter. i submited the Bug #299989. Simon 1. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brltty/+bug/299989 From christian08 at runbox.com Thu Nov 20 19:59:02 2008 From: christian08 at runbox.com (Christian) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:59:02 +0100 Subject: Installing Intrepid with BRLTTY Message-ID: <200811202059020906.000405B9@127.0.0.1> Hi all, I am not able to boot the live CD so I downloaded the alternate CD. When I booted the CD I first press enter. Then I press F6 after I type: install brltty=ts,ttyS0,de Isn't this correct? Nothing seems to happen. Many thanks, Christian From mj at mjw.se Thu Nov 20 20:03:54 2008 From: mj at mjw.se (mattias) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:03:54 +0100 Subject: SV: Installing Intrepid with BRLTTY In-Reply-To: <200811202059020906.000405B9@127.0.0.1> Message-ID: <000501c94b4b$1e14f490$b013e255@jonsson> If you have a voyager you only need to enter brltty If i remember right -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: ubuntu-accessibility-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-accessibility-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] För Christian Skickat: den 20 november 2008 20:59 Till: ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com Ämne: Installing Intrepid with BRLTTY Hi all, I am not able to boot the live CD so I downloaded the alternate CD. When I booted the CD I first press enter. Then I press F6 after I type: install brltty=ts,ttyS0,de Isn't this correct? Nothing seems to happen. Many thanks, Christian -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility From christian08 at runbox.com Thu Nov 20 21:34:10 2008 From: christian08 at runbox.com (Christian) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:34:10 +0100 Subject: Cannot install Intrepid with BRLTTY Message-ID: <200811202234100234.000314D1@127.0.0.1> Hi all, When I launch BRLTTY I get the scren not in text mode message when I type: install brltty=ts,ttyS0 after pressing F6 after I have booted the CD and pressed enter. Is this broken? Many thanks, Christian From kb8aey at verizon.net Sat Nov 29 22:13:44 2008 From: kb8aey at verizon.net (mike) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 16:13:44 -0600 (CST) Subject: a question about system rescue distros Message-ID: <0KB4004J48EVDI41@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, I know there are several live distros of Linux built as system rescue distros. Does anyone know if anyone has created a fully accessible one that uses software speech? I would be interested in one that would let you copy files and partition hard drives. I know this can be done using grml, but I thought there may be a distro targeted for this purpose. Mike. From speakup at lists.tacticus.com Sat Nov 29 23:40:19 2008 From: speakup at lists.tacticus.com (luke) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 18:40:19 -0500 (EST) Subject: a question about system rescue distros In-Reply-To: <0KB4004J48EVDI41@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> References: <0KB4004J48EVDI41@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: I do not know of one, but you might consider writing to the maintainer of System Rescue CD (I think it's sysrescd.org), and making your request. That CD includes speakup already, for everything but software speech. Luke On Sat, 29 Nov 2008, mike wrote: > Hi, I know there are several live distros of Linux built as system rescue distros. > Does anyone know if anyone has created a fully accessible one that uses software speech? I would be interested in one that would let you copy files and partition hard drives. I know this can be done using grml, but I thought there may be a distro targeted for this purpose. > Mike. > > From kb8aey at verizon.net Sun Nov 30 02:30:04 2008 From: kb8aey at verizon.net (mike) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 20:30:04 -0600 (CST) Subject: ubuntu on a newer mac Message-ID: <0KB400GU2KA2G2QF@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, do you need the special ubuntu mac version if your computer is a newer mac with a Intel processor? Or will the standard version work? Mike. X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 081129-0, 11/29/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean From themuso at ubuntu.com Sun Nov 30 22:11:59 2008 From: themuso at ubuntu.com (Luke Yelavich) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 09:11:59 +1100 Subject: ubuntu on a newer mac In-Reply-To: <0KB400GU2KA2G2QF@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> References: <0KB400GU2KA2G2QF@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <20081130221159.GA16577@brainz.yelavich.home> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 01:30:04PM EST, mike wrote: > Hi, do you need the special ubuntu mac version if your computer is a newer mac with a Intel processor? Or will the standard version work? If you have an intel mac from 2006 onwards, the standard amd64/i386 versions of Ubuntu will work. Note however that it is a little harder to boot Linux unaided. 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