From waywardgeek at gmail.com Fri Jan 1 12:07:33 2010 From: waywardgeek at gmail.com (Bill Cox) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 07:07:33 -0500 Subject: Can pulseaudio be made to work with consoles and Orca at the same time? Message-ID: <499d69a01001010407t60a9576bkc215d5c553312120@mail.gmail.com> I'm trying to get a basic Karmic system working with the two critical applications for the blind: Orca and speakup. Pulseaudio is being a huge PITA. Whether I use espeakup or speechd-up, pulseaudio is launched as another user as soon as the speakup module starts during boot. However, when the user logs into gnome, another instance of pulseaudio is created. The first one locks the sound card, and the second is mute. Orca wont talk. If I kill the first one, Orca comes up talking, but then my Ctrl+Alt+F[1-6] consoles stop talking. Any basically usable Linux system for the blind needs Orca and speakup working together. Pulseaudio, SFAIK, only allows one instance to use the sound card at a time. Pulseaudio also requires each user to have his own copy. Speakup runs before any user logs in, and therefore must run as it's own user. Therefore... pulseaudio can't work on any truely accessible Linux box? Is this basically true? If this can be fixed, which peice of code needs fixing (I'm willing to fix it)? Should we try and make multiple instances of pulseaudio play nice together so they can share the sound card? Bill From stormdragon2976 at gmail.com Fri Jan 1 14:02:23 2010 From: stormdragon2976 at gmail.com (Storm Dragon) Date: Fri, 01 Jan 2010 09:02:23 -0500 Subject: speech-dispatcher and Festival Message-ID: <1262354543.2673.2.camel@stormdragon-laptop> Hi, Has anyone gotten speech-dispatcher to be able to use festival? If so, how? Thanks Storm Follow me on twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stormdragon2976 My blog, Thoughts of a Dragon: http://www.stormdragon.us/ For general Linux discussion: http://www.freelists.org/list/accessiblelinux What color dragon are you? http://quizfarm.com/quizzes/new/alustriel07/what-color-dragon-would-you-be/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From esj at harvee.org Fri Jan 1 17:50:13 2010 From: esj at harvee.org (Eric S. Johansson) Date: Fri, 01 Jan 2010 12:50:13 -0500 Subject: Can pulseaudio be made to work with consoles and Orca at the same time? In-Reply-To: <499d69a01001010407t60a9576bkc215d5c553312120@mail.gmail.com> References: <499d69a01001010407t60a9576bkc215d5c553312120@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B3E35D5.60702@harvee.org> On 1/1/2010 7:07 AM, Bill Cox wrote: > Any basically usable Linux system for the blind needs Orca and speakup > working together. Pulseaudio, SFAIK, only allows one instance to use > the sound card at a time. Pulseaudio also requires each user to have > his own copy. Speakup runs before any user logs in, and therefore > must run as it's own user. > > Therefore... pulseaudio can't work on any truely accessible Linux box? > Is this basically true? If this can be fixed, which peice of code > needs fixing (I'm willing to fix it)? Should we try and make multiple > instances of pulseaudio play nice together so they can share the sound > card? I will admit I haven't played with this lately that was a problem as of a few months ago. Specifically using multiple sound devices with speech recognition (or any other app requiring audio input such as a telephone. For some reason, Lennox audio systems don't seem to cope very well with a USB microphone because instead of letting it stand as a second device, it seems to displace the primary audio device in favor of a USB device and not leave the application which one it wants to use. My favorite use case is using a headset to speak with someone (voip) while running rhythm box playing some tunes in the background. For voip, you can also substitute wine running NaturallySpeaking. in any case, I think is a generic problem dealing with multiple devices and if you can fix it, that would be fantastic. From martin at dc.cis.okstate.edu Sun Jan 3 20:28:23 2010 From: martin at dc.cis.okstate.edu (Martin McCormick) Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2010 14:28:23 -0600 Subject: vinux Distribution Message-ID: <201001032028.o03KSNOo002410@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Hellow, list; I installed vinux which is a version of Debian Linux that is optimized for blind and visually-impaired users so it comes up speaking. This is a little gem. As the owner of several still-serviceable but older computers, vinux gives new life to them. I tried the ubuntu-live CD on a Dell laptop dating back to 2003. It contains 256 megs of RAM but still died due to lack of RAM. The "vinux" live CD is a talking console using speakup and appears to be a one-man effort. http://vinux-development.blogspot.com/ I mention it on this list because I saw a previous posting from somebody who was trying to find a mailing list for vinux. We need something like this in a main distribution because not every system in the real world is cutting-edge technology nor is it ready for the recyclers either. When I put vinux on the laptop, it simply started to work. The only issues are that you must do something about the keyboard if you live in the United States. You get a UK keyboard by default. All the letters and numbers are where you expect them, but try typing in a Email address or redirecting a Unix command via the pipe symbol and you get a few surprises. The @ sign and double-quote keys are swapped and several others are not where you are used to finding them. The Caps-lock key does not announce its status but the high pitch of the echoed key strokes lets you know after the fact, and so on. The loadkeys us commands fixes that and, strangely enough, the Caps-lock announces its status and toggles normally when shifted which is a normal behavior under speakup. The fun starts when trying to make the US keyboard the default at boot time. You should be able to run install-keymap us to replace the default boot-time keymap. It doesn't work and an exhaustive trouble-shooting session turned up that under vinux, install-keymap was putting the new map in /etc/console when it should have put it in /etc/console-setup. Someone simply goofed. After fixing the keyboard, the rest is more than I ever hoped for. The speech dispatcher and the audio devices for playing and recording sound peacefully coexist. From a previous Oralux distribution on that same laptop, I know that sound barely worked at all. You could get speech but speech and anything else usually worked poorly or not at all and failed in ways that I am sure were interrupt and contingency-related. As a final blow, the version of speakup that was part of Oralux was one of the older versions that went in to painfully-slow spelling mode when one tried to use a RS-232 serial converter on the USB port. I haven't tried a serial port under vinux, but everything else actually works as expected. I really think separate special distributions are not the best answer because, when the developer moves on or passes on, the project dies and we are back to trying to hammer square pegs in to roud holes or whatever analogy you like to describe the frustration of trying to mate pieces that don't fit the. The accessibility project for orca and ubuntu is nothing short of amazing. If we could only have a way of starting the live CD in vinux mode so that vinux grows along with the main distribution, we would have it made in the shade. The author of vinux actually describes such a hope in the blog. As a final thought, I also installed vinux on a 1995-vintage Gateway system with only 64 megs of RAM but a 400-MHZ processor. The speech works flawlessly but 64 megs is just not enough to let aptitude work correctly so I will have to add at least 64 more megs and then reinstall vinux as the virtual disk wasn't big enough to let the installation process work properly. I am really surprised it works at all. Sorry for the length of this message but I needed to explain why this is a very important and useful development. Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK Systems Engineer OSU Information Technology Department Telecommunications Services Group From lex at progger.ru Mon Jan 4 10:26:44 2010 From: lex at progger.ru (Lex) Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 12:26:44 +0200 Subject: Problem with speech-dispatcher espeak-generic in karmic Message-ID: <4B41C264.7000007@progger.ru> Hi all, I've installed ubuntu 9.10 onto acer aspire one a150-bk netbook and am impressed of the fact, that all hardware works out of the box. I decided do not remove pulseaudio because of those issues it causes with another desktop apps I've read about in this list. So i tried to patch the espeak-generic.conf to use paplay. Now i have following results: Espeak is noticeably more responsive; Espeak volume is lesser than normal; Russian text isn't spoken at all. Last issue is the most important for me, as I am using Russian localization of ubuntu. I am sure that espeak Russianvoice works when standart espeak speech-dispatcher module is selected. Also I am sure that russian voice is active with espeak-generic module, because it says numbers in Russian when i type them. Only numbers and english letters and text is spoken when espeak-generic is selected in orca preferences. May be this is problem with the codepage or text encoding? If you have any ideas about volume and more important Russian issue, please, let me know and i will test it. Thanks to all people who have made this excellent release of ubuntu. All the best, Lex From waywardgeek at gmail.com Mon Jan 4 16:11:19 2010 From: waywardgeek at gmail.com (Bill Cox) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 11:11:19 -0500 Subject: Help needed for system-wide pulseaudio for blind users In-Reply-To: <499d69a01001040802g113200e5w1c05488a3dbac6ac@mail.gmail.com> References: <499d69a01001040802g113200e5w1c05488a3dbac6ac@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <499d69a01001040811nb758121u65812f3d370b2cbf@mail.gmail.com> I also posted this on the pulseaudio list, but there may be more help to be found here... I'm trying to build a Vinux (blind-user Linux distro) release based on Ubuntu/Lucid.  There's too much code to rewrite to have everything working the "right" way with pulseaudio by May, so I want to release Vinux/Ubuntu Lucid with the system-wide hack. I've enabled PA to start in system wide mode by editing /etc/defaults/pulseaudio, and enabling it there.  I've added gdm, root, speech-dispatcher, and my user name to the pulse-access group. Pulseaudio starts, and speech-dispatcher and speechd-up work with it just fine at boot.  Since this is a distro for the blind, I boot into a console, not gdm.  The login prompt is read nicely, as is text when I log in.  However, if I try to play a .wav file, there is no sound. None of the apps with PA back-ends will play sound for me.  When I type 'startx', Gome comes up, but the sound preference dialog tells me there's no sound card.  I suspect that rights to use it have been granted to the speech-dispatcher user, and I'm not able to access it. If there is anyone who can help me get such a settup working, I'd really appreciate it! Thanks, Bill From pmikeal at comcast.net Mon Jan 4 19:29:18 2010 From: pmikeal at comcast.net (Pia) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 14:29:18 -0500 (EST) Subject: Help needed for system-wide pulseaudio for blind users In-Reply-To: <499d69a01001040811nb758121u65812f3d370b2cbf@mail.gmail.com> References: <499d69a01001040802g113200e5w1c05488a3dbac6ac@mail.gmail.com> <499d69a01001040811nb758121u65812f3d370b2cbf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I don't know if this is of any help, but I reverted my Karmic install to using ALSA instead of Pulse Audio and then could get Speak Up to run just fine with other audio streams such as mp3 files. I did this last night and so have not played with getting Orca up and running yet, but on a past Jaunty system I had, I remember that Orca didn't work either until I uninstalled pulseaudio and disabled it as well. We shall see how hard it is to get Orca working with ALSA in Karmic. I get the idea that your whole point though is to get speech to play correctly with Pulse Audio though instead of removing PA and using ALSA. Am I correct? Would the ALSA work around be a satisfactory solution for you? I ask because it seems to be what has worked best for me on the systems I have tried to get talking recently. That being said, there are plenty of things I have not played with yet, such as Lucid itself. HTH, Pia On Mon, 4 Jan 2010, Bill Cox wrote: > I also posted this on the pulseaudio list, but there may be more help > to be found here... > > I'm trying to build a Vinux (blind-user Linux distro) release based on > Ubuntu/Lucid.  There's too much code to rewrite to have everything > working the "right" way with pulseaudio by May, so I want to release > Vinux/Ubuntu Lucid with the system-wide hack. > > I've enabled PA to start in system wide mode by editing > /etc/defaults/pulseaudio, and enabling it there.  I've added gdm, > root, speech-dispatcher, and my user name to the pulse-access group. > Pulseaudio starts, and speech-dispatcher and speechd-up work with it > just fine at boot.  Since this is a distro for the blind, I boot into > a console, not gdm.  The login prompt is read nicely, as is text when > I log in.  However, if I try to play a .wav file, there is no sound. > None of the apps with PA back-ends will play sound for me.  When I > type 'startx', Gome comes up, but the sound preference dialog tells me > there's no sound card.  I suspect that rights to use it have been > granted to the speech-dispatcher user, and I'm not able to access it. > > If there is anyone who can help me get such a settup working, I'd > really appreciate it! > > Thanks, > Bill > > -- > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility > From jkenn337 at gmail.com Mon Jan 4 20:34:31 2010 From: jkenn337 at gmail.com (Josh) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 15:34:31 -0500 Subject: adriane-knoppix Message-ID: Hi, Knoppix-adriane also works good. perhaps a version of ubuntu with the lxde desktop and orca included? I think lxde is much more responsive than gnome is and works good with orca. the only distro that lets us use lxde is currently knoppix adriane. Josh Kennedy jkenn337 at gmail.com my blog is at http://jkenn337.klangoblog.net (updated frequently). Tired of Microsoft Windows and paying thousands for screen-readers? try out NVDA for Windows, or try out and switch to grml, Ubuntu, Vinux, or knoppix-adriane Linux desktops. Knoppix ubuntu and vinux-cli-max are the most accessible for beginners. also try vinux-gui and encourage those at www.cherrypal.com to use windows-xp and nvda knoppix-adriane Vinux-cli-max or grml so all blind people can have an accessible computer. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pmikeal at comcast.net Mon Jan 4 21:15:42 2010 From: pmikeal at comcast.net (Pia) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 16:15:42 -0500 (EST) Subject: OCR in Linux In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Does anyone have an opinion about what the best OCR software is for Linux for blind people that talks well? I would prefer a command line package, but if there is only a GUI one that works OK, knowing about it would be good to know too. From waywardgeek at gmail.com Wed Jan 6 11:18:28 2010 From: waywardgeek at gmail.com (Bill Cox) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 06:18:28 -0500 Subject: Anyone know how Fedora 12 launches root apps? Message-ID: <499d69a01001060318j18303427wc468337c73582122@mail.gmail.com> I've read that Fedora 12 applications that need root privileges are all accessible to Orca. Does anyone know how Fedora does this? Ubuntu uses gksu, and all programs launched in Ubuntu with gksu are not accessible to Orca. Thanks, Bill From halim.sahin at freenet.de Wed Jan 6 15:45:36 2010 From: halim.sahin at freenet.de (Halim Sahin) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 16:45:36 +0100 Subject: Anyone know how Fedora 12 launches root apps? In-Reply-To: <499d69a01001060318j18303427wc468337c73582122@mail.gmail.com> References: <499d69a01001060318j18303427wc468337c73582122@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20100106154536.GA1439@gentoo.local> hi bill, Not sure, what about policykit? Regards Halim From kb8aey at verizon.net Thu Jan 7 20:53:18 2010 From: kb8aey at verizon.net (mike) Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2010 14:53:18 -0600 (CST) Subject: help in lucid doesn't work with orca Message-ID: <0KVW005M0A0T0T53@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, I know the help system has worked in some past releases for some time. But I noticed today that it still doesn't work in lucid. All Orca says is link. Is this a known problem? Mike. From waywardgeek at gmail.com Fri Jan 8 18:08:51 2010 From: waywardgeek at gmail.com (Bill Cox) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 13:08:51 -0500 Subject: [orca-list] [ANNOUNCE] libao (new audio driver for speechd including working pulseaudio support). In-Reply-To: <499d69a01001070456l271b27f4h742a5f302c86d604@mail.gmail.com> References: <20091218003946.GA11530@jdc.jasonjgw.net> <20091220233929.GA3538@lnx3.holmesgrown.com> <20091220234417.GC3974@strigy.yelavich.home> <20091221020309.GA12132@lnx3.holmesgrown.com> <499d69a00912210918u5d74fdd0p276ce22c25771feb@mail.gmail.com> <20100107015807.GB3432@strigy.yelavich.home> <499d69a01001062019j4089fd6fv3ee755b276a29707@mail.gmail.com> <20100107042547.GB3112@strigy.yelavich.home> <20100107053147.GA2898@strigy.yelavich.home> <499d69a01001070456l271b27f4h742a5f302c86d604@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <499d69a01001081008j7d3b1e4eu7c826113db8b1260@mail.gmail.com> Hi, Luke. Adding the ability to set PulseAudio parameters in speechd.conf was harder than I thought it would be, but it's done. Attached are two patches. The first is the patch file to get the basic pulseaudio driver that you've tested. The second is the work I had to do to get the PulseAudio buffering parameters exposed to the user through speechd.conf. Just add these to your debian/patches directory and the 00list file. I wasn't sure where to e-mail these... sorry for the spam! Bill On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 7:56 AM, Bill Cox wrote: > Hi, Luke.  That's great!  For some reason, I keep expecting the Magic > Code Fairies to clean up code before it gets included anywhere. > Earlier in this thread, Rui Batista said he was going to do some > cleanup - making PulseAudio buffer parameters configurable again.  So, > naturally I didn't bother.  If you can wait a few hours, I'll do that > change, and post an improved patch here. > > Bill > > On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 12:31 AM, Luke Yelavich > wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 03:25:47PM EST, Luke Yelavich wrote: >>> On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 03:19:32PM EST, Bill Cox wrote: >>> > Hi, Luke.  The new pulse drivers work well for me on both Karmic and >>> > Lucid, and I haven't heard of users with poor performance so far, but >>> > it could be machine specific.  The strange thing is you're reporting >>> > libao works well, and all I did was cut and paste the pulseaudio calls >>> > libao makes into the libao driver, so I would expect similar >>> > performance, other than for the buffering settings I make in the >>> > pulse-simple interface. >>> >>> *slaps head. I didn't apply the patch I created with the new pulse file. I'll test again and get back to you, >> >> Ok, now that I actually have it aplying and built, the difference is *VERY* noticable. Currently using espeak with pulse, but will try with portaudio again since bits of short text, especially if arrowing very fast, are a little bit clicky. >> >> Long term, there is the power consumption issue that Lennart raised, since we are using the simple API, but we need to work that out as best we can, and go from there, but I think this will be going into Ubuntu very shortly, once I have done a few more tests. >> >> Great work! >> >> Luke >> > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <499d69a01001081008j7d3b1e4eu7c826113db8b1260@mail.gmail.com> References: <20091218003946.GA11530@jdc.jasonjgw.net> <20091220234417.GC3974@strigy.yelavich.home> <20091221020309.GA12132@lnx3.holmesgrown.com> <499d69a00912210918u5d74fdd0p276ce22c25771feb@mail.gmail.com> <20100107015807.GB3432@strigy.yelavich.home> <499d69a01001062019j4089fd6fv3ee755b276a29707@mail.gmail.com> <20100107042547.GB3112@strigy.yelavich.home> <20100107053147.GA2898@strigy.yelavich.home> <499d69a01001070456l271b27f4h742a5f302c86d604@mail.gmail.com> <499d69a01001081008j7d3b1e4eu7c826113db8b1260@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <499d69a01001081112k7ad4557al9bbbb3da3e3efead@mail.gmail.com> Oops... It was pointed out that I got the credits wrong in the header. I've regenerated the second patch to correct it. Bill On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Bill Cox wrote: > Hi, Luke.  Adding the ability to set PulseAudio parameters in > speechd.conf was harder than I thought it would be, but it's done. > Attached are two patches.  The first is the patch file to get the > basic pulseaudio driver that you've tested.  The second is the work I > had to do to get the PulseAudio buffering parameters exposed to the > user through speechd.conf.  Just add these to your debian/patches > directory and the 00list file. > > I wasn't sure where to e-mail these... sorry for the spam! > > Bill > > On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 7:56 AM, Bill Cox wrote: >> Hi, Luke.  That's great!  For some reason, I keep expecting the Magic >> Code Fairies to clean up code before it gets included anywhere. >> Earlier in this thread, Rui Batista said he was going to do some >> cleanup - making PulseAudio buffer parameters configurable again.  So, >> naturally I didn't bother.  If you can wait a few hours, I'll do that >> change, and post an improved patch here. >> >> Bill >> >> On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 12:31 AM, Luke Yelavich >> wrote: >>> On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 03:25:47PM EST, Luke Yelavich wrote: >>>> On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 03:19:32PM EST, Bill Cox wrote: >>>> > Hi, Luke.  The new pulse drivers work well for me on both Karmic and >>>> > Lucid, and I haven't heard of users with poor performance so far, but >>>> > it could be machine specific.  The strange thing is you're reporting >>>> > libao works well, and all I did was cut and paste the pulseaudio calls >>>> > libao makes into the libao driver, so I would expect similar >>>> > performance, other than for the buffering settings I make in the >>>> > pulse-simple interface. >>>> >>>> *slaps head. I didn't apply the patch I created with the new pulse file. I'll test again and get back to you, >>> >>> Ok, now that I actually have it aplying and built, the difference is *VERY* noticable. Currently using espeak with pulse, but will try with portaudio again since bits of short text, especially if arrowing very fast, are a little bit clicky. >>> >>> Long term, there is the power consumption issue that Lennart raised, since we are using the simple API, but we need to work that out as best we can, and go from there, but I think this will be going into Ubuntu very shortly, once I have done a few more tests. >>> >>> Great work! >>> >>> Luke >>> >> > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <499d69a01001081112k7ad4557al9bbbb3da3e3efead@mail.gmail.com> References: <20091218003946.GA11530@jdc.jasonjgw.net> <20091220234417.GC3974@strigy.yelavich.home> <20091221020309.GA12132@lnx3.holmesgrown.com> <499d69a00912210918u5d74fdd0p276ce22c25771feb@mail.gmail.com> <20100107015807.GB3432@strigy.yelavich.home> <499d69a01001062019j4089fd6fv3ee755b276a29707@mail.gmail.com> <20100107042547.GB3112@strigy.yelavich.home> <20100107053147.GA2898@strigy.yelavich.home> <499d69a01001070456l271b27f4h742a5f302c86d604@mail.gmail.com> <499d69a01001081008j7d3b1e4eu7c826113db8b1260@mail.gmail.com> <499d69a01001081112k7ad4557al9bbbb3da3e3efead@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B480640.3010109@pickup.hu> Hy bill, I will be try the new sent driver with monday my Lucid system. Now I am using your first 2009. year sent pulse.c driver and works fantastic my system. Attila From kenny at hittsjunk.net Sun Jan 10 04:50:45 2010 From: kenny at hittsjunk.net (Kenny Hitt) Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 22:50:45 -0600 Subject: OCR in Linux In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20100110045045.GA19551@blackbox.hittsjunk.net> Hi. Have you tried ocropus? Don't know if it's in Ubuntu, but it's definitely a Debian package. Kenny On Mon, Jan 04, 2010 at 04:15:42PM -0500, Pia wrote: > Does anyone have an opinion about what the best OCR software is for Linux > for blind people that talks well? I would prefer a command line package, > but if there is only a GUI one that works OK, knowing about it would be > good to know too. > > -- > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility From barnes.matt at gmail.com Sun Jan 10 05:36:47 2010 From: barnes.matt at gmail.com (Matt Barnes) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 00:36:47 -0500 Subject: OCR in Linux In-Reply-To: <20100110045045.GA19551@blackbox.hittsjunk.net> References: <20100110045045.GA19551@blackbox.hittsjunk.net> Message-ID: <28d22bea1001092136t6289eac4s9ad9c963521b234@mail.gmail.com> tesseract was good back when I tried it: http://code.google.com/p/tesseract-ocr/ On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 11:50 PM, Kenny Hitt wrote: > Hi. Have you tried ocropus? > > Don't know if it's in Ubuntu, but it's definitely a Debian package. > > Kenny > On Mon, Jan 04, 2010 at 04:15:42PM -0500, Pia wrote: > > Does anyone have an opinion about what the best OCR software is for Linux > > for blind people that talks well? I would prefer a command line package, > > but if there is only a GUI one that works OK, knowing about it would be > > good to know too. > > > > -- > > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > > Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility > > -- > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility > -- "I cannot teach anybody anything, I can only make them think." -Socrates -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pmikeal at comcast.net Sun Jan 10 15:37:09 2010 From: pmikeal at comcast.net (Pia) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 10:37:09 -0500 (EST) Subject: OCR in Linux In-Reply-To: <20100110045045.GA19551@blackbox.hittsjunk.net> References: <20100110045045.GA19551@blackbox.hittsjunk.net> Message-ID: Wow, where did you find it, in Debian or as a Debian package? I am running Lenny and don't see it. I tried to compile it from source and it keeps failing. Thanks! On Sat, 9 Jan 2010, Kenny Hitt wrote: > Hi. Have you tried ocropus? > > Don't know if it's in Ubuntu, but it's definitely a Debian package. > > Kenny > On Mon, Jan 04, 2010 at 04:15:42PM -0500, Pia wrote: >> Does anyone have an opinion about what the best OCR software is for Linux >> for blind people that talks well? I would prefer a command line package, >> but if there is only a GUI one that works OK, knowing about it would be >> good to know too. >> >> -- >> Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list >> Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility > > -- > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility > From pmikeal at comcast.net Mon Jan 11 03:56:50 2010 From: pmikeal at comcast.net (pmikeal at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 22:56:50 -0500 (EST) Subject: OCR in Linux In-Reply-To: <20100111033141.GA22206@blackbox.hittsjunk.net> References: <20100110045045.GA19551@blackbox.hittsjunk.net> <20100111033141.GA22206@blackbox.hittsjunk.net> Message-ID: > Hi. It's part of Debian. I am running Sid, but it's been a Debian package for a few years. Huh? I thought ocropus just got created via google summer of code not long ago. You and others must have thought I meant tesseract which is not the email I replied to because you are the second person who emailed me something about it instead of ocropus to my query about ocropus here. The other guy who emailed me I am even more sure meant tesseract because he actually included a link to it. I appreciate everyone's kindness to answer questions, but please read the message people are replying to before replying. Thanks. From kenny at hittsjunk.net Mon Jan 11 05:49:07 2010 From: kenny at hittsjunk.net (Kenny Hitt) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 23:49:07 -0600 Subject: OCR in Linux In-Reply-To: References: <20100110045045.GA19551@blackbox.hittsjunk.net> <20100111033141.GA22206@blackbox.hittsjunk.net> Message-ID: <20100111054907.GA23750@blackbox.hittsjunk.net> Hi. I've been using ocropus for at least 2 years. I built the first release from source, but have used Debian packages ever since. Not sure why it isn't part of Lenny, but it is definitely part of Sid. kenny at blackbox:~$ apt-cache search ocropus ocropus - document analysis and OCR system ocropus-data - document analysis and OCR system --- data files kenny at blackbox:~$ apt-cache show ocropus Package: ocropus Status: install ok installed Priority: optional Section: graphics Installed-Size: 3732 Maintainer: Jeffrey Ratcliffe Architecture: i386 Version: 0.3.1-2 Depends: libc6 (>= 2.4), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1), libiulib0, libjpeg62, liblua5.1-0, libpng12-0 (>= 1.2.13-4), libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.1), libtiff4, zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.4), ocropus-data (= 0.3.1-2) Recommends: tesseract-ocr (>= 2.03-2) Breaks: ocrodjvu (<< 0.3) Description: document analysis and OCR system OCRopus(tm) is a state-of-the-art document analysis and Optical Character Recognition (OCR) system, featuring pluggable layout analysis, pluggable character recognition, statistical natural language modeling, and multi-lingual capabilities. . The OCRopus engine is based on two research projects: a high-performance handwriting recognizer developed in the mid-90's and deployed by the US Census bureau, and novel high-performance layout analysis methods. . OCRopus development is sponsored by Google and is initially intended for high-throughput, high-volume document conversion efforts. It will also be an excellent OCR system for many other applications. Homepage: http://code.google.com/p/ocropus/ I knew you were talking about ocropus and not tesseract. Kenny On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 10:56:50PM -0500, pmikeal at comcast.net wrote: > > Hi. It's part of Debian. I am running Sid, but it's been a Debian package for a few years. > > > Huh? I thought ocropus just got created via google summer of code not > long ago. You and others must have thought I meant tesseract which is > not the email I replied to because you are the second person who emailed > me something about it instead of ocropus to my query about ocropus here. > The other guy who emailed me I am even more sure meant tesseract because > he actually included a link to it. I appreciate everyone's kindness to > answer questions, but please read the message people are replying to > before replying. Thanks. > > > -- > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility From pmikeal at comcast.net Mon Jan 11 05:58:18 2010 From: pmikeal at comcast.net (Pia) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 00:58:18 -0500 (EST) Subject: OCR in Linux In-Reply-To: <20100111054907.GA23750@blackbox.hittsjunk.net> References: <20100110045045.GA19551@blackbox.hittsjunk.net> <20100111033141.GA22206@blackbox.hittsjunk.net> <20100111054907.GA23750@blackbox.hittsjunk.net> Message-ID: Wow awesome! I am wondering why I don't have it in Lenny when I search for it. I guess only one person meant tesseract then. Thank you very much for your explanation because now I know there is a deb package. I just have to figure out why I am not seeing it in my version of the distro and maybe download the version from a newer version now. Thanks again for the good details. On Sun, 10 Jan 2010, Kenny Hitt wrote: > Hi. I've been using ocropus for at least 2 years. I built the first release from source, but have used Debian packages ever since. > Not sure why it isn't part of Lenny, but it is definitely part of Sid. > > kenny at blackbox:~$ apt-cache search ocropus > ocropus - document analysis and OCR system > ocropus-data - document analysis and OCR system --- data files > kenny at blackbox:~$ apt-cache show ocropus > Package: ocropus > Status: install ok installed > Priority: optional > Section: graphics > Installed-Size: 3732 > Maintainer: Jeffrey Ratcliffe > Architecture: i386 > Version: 0.3.1-2 > Depends: libc6 (>= 2.4), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1), libiulib0, libjpeg62, liblua5.1-0, libpng12-0 (>= 1.2.13-4), libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.1), libtiff4, zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.4), ocropus-data (= 0.3.1-2) > Recommends: tesseract-ocr (>= 2.03-2) > Breaks: ocrodjvu (<< 0.3) > Description: document analysis and OCR system > OCRopus(tm) is a state-of-the-art document analysis and Optical > Character Recognition (OCR) system, featuring > pluggable layout analysis, pluggable character recognition, statistical > natural language modeling, and multi-lingual capabilities. > . > The OCRopus engine is based on two research projects: a high-performance > handwriting recognizer developed in the mid-90's and deployed by the US Census > bureau, and novel high-performance layout analysis methods. > . > OCRopus development is sponsored by Google and is initially intended for > high-throughput, high-volume document conversion efforts. It > will also be an excellent OCR system for many other applications. > Homepage: http://code.google.com/p/ocropus/ > > I knew you were talking about ocropus and not tesseract. > > Kenny > > On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 10:56:50PM -0500, pmikeal at comcast.net wrote: >>> Hi. It's part of Debian. I am running Sid, but it's been a Debian package for a few years. >> >> >> Huh? I thought ocropus just got created via google summer of code not >> long ago. You and others must have thought I meant tesseract which is >> not the email I replied to because you are the second person who emailed >> me something about it instead of ocropus to my query about ocropus here. >> The other guy who emailed me I am even more sure meant tesseract because >> he actually included a link to it. I appreciate everyone's kindness to >> answer questions, but please read the message people are replying to >> before replying. Thanks. >> >> >> -- >> Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list >> Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility > > -- > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility > From rakesh_ambati at yahoo.com Tue Jan 12 15:17:11 2010 From: rakesh_ambati at yahoo.com (Arky) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:47:11 +0530 (IST) Subject: Compiz keybinds conflicts Message-ID: <183167.65233.qm@web94904.mail.in2.yahoo.com> Hi, Compiz keybindings often conflit with gnome defaults. Perhaps we can provide a patch to resolve this in lucid. Any ideas? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lucid/CompizDefaults Cheers --arky Rakesh 'arky' Ambati| IT Consultant| http://www.braillewithoutborders.org | Blog: http://playingwithsid.blogspot.com The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage. http://in.yahoo.com/ From waywardgeek at gmail.com Tue Jan 12 16:08:28 2010 From: waywardgeek at gmail.com (Bill Cox) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 11:08:28 -0500 Subject: Orca fails to run in latest Lucid update Message-ID: <499d69a01001120808ke642356md2d64927a4a50d95@mail.gmail.com> Anyone else seeing this? After an apt-get upgrade, Orca no longer works. Here's what gets reported: vinux at vinux-laptop:~$ orca (orca:1830): atk-bridge-WARNING **: AT_SPI_REGISTRY was not started at session startup. (orca:1830): atk-bridge-WARNING **: IOR not set. (orca:1830): atk-bridge-WARNING **: Could not locate registry Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/orca/orca.py", line 1747, in main init(pyatspi.Registry) File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/orca/orca.py", line 1266, in init registry.registerEventListener(_onChildrenChanged, File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/pyatspi/registry.py", line 331, in __getattribute__ raise RuntimeError('Could not find or activate registry') RuntimeError: Could not find or activate registry I can track this down, but if you have already figured it out, or have pointers for me, I'd like to hear from you. Thanks, Bill From waywardgeek at gmail.com Tue Jan 12 17:10:36 2010 From: waywardgeek at gmail.com (Bill Cox) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 12:10:36 -0500 Subject: Orca fails to run in latest Lucid update In-Reply-To: <499d69a01001120808ke642356md2d64927a4a50d95@mail.gmail.com> References: <499d69a01001120808ke642356md2d64927a4a50d95@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <499d69a01001120910t1b7b2405w4fbafcd4b48222aa@mail.gmail.com> D'oh! This is just what Willie told me to do before: $ gconftool-2 --set /desktop/gnome/interface/at-spi-corba --type bool true If you execute this, then at-spi-registryd can run, and Orca starts. Bill On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Bill Cox wrote: > Anyone else seeing this?  After an apt-get upgrade, Orca no longer > works.  Here's what gets reported: > > vinux at vinux-laptop:~$ orca > > (orca:1830): atk-bridge-WARNING **: AT_SPI_REGISTRY was not started at > session startup. > > (orca:1830): atk-bridge-WARNING **: IOR not set. > > (orca:1830): atk-bridge-WARNING **: Could not locate registry > Traceback (most recent call last): >  File "", line 1, in >  File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/orca/orca.py", line 1747, in main >    init(pyatspi.Registry) >  File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/orca/orca.py", line 1266, in init >    registry.registerEventListener(_onChildrenChanged, >  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/pyatspi/registry.py", line > 331, in __getattribute__ >    raise RuntimeError('Could not find or activate registry') > RuntimeError: Could not find or activate registry > > > I can track this down, but if you have already figured it out, or have > pointers for me, I'd like to hear from you. > > Thanks, > Bill > From vilmar at informal.com.br Tue Jan 12 17:22:41 2010 From: vilmar at informal.com.br (jose vilmar estacio de souza) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 15:22:41 -0200 Subject: voxin and gnome speech Message-ID: <4B4CAFE1.9040501@informal.com.br> Hi all, I am trying run via voice using gnome-speech under karmic. When I configure orca to use gnome speech and I select ibm via voice as the synthesizer, orca stays mute. Any idea? Thanks. -- []S José Vilmar Estácio de Souza http://www.informal.com.br Msn:vilmar at informal.com.br Skype:jvilmar Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jvesouza Phone: +55 21-2555-2650 Cel: +55 21-8868-0859 From kb8aey at verizon.net Thu Jan 14 04:06:29 2010 From: kb8aey at verizon.net (mike) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 22:06:29 -0600 (CST) Subject: no speech on live cd Message-ID: <0KW700FPLY2SEOO7@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, I noticed the latest live cd of lucid has no speech. Does anyone know why? Mike. From rakesh_ambati at yahoo.com Fri Jan 15 16:54:09 2010 From: rakesh_ambati at yahoo.com (Arky) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 22:24:09 +0530 (IST) Subject: Compiz Accessibility Message-ID: <171315.53098.qm@web94916.mail.in2.yahoo.com> Hi, Compiz eZoom is wonderful solution for low vision. But using compiz causes numerous problem with gnome desktop keyboard navigation. For instance the compiz application switcher keybindings conflicts with gnome panel switching default 'control + Alt + Tab' With help from #compiz channel member I prepared a patch for this. https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/507964 If you know of other such conflict please bring to my notice or a leave a comment here https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/507962 I hope we can make compiz work together with gnome in next lucid release. Cheers --arky Rakesh 'arky' Ambati| IT Consultant| http://www.braillewithoutborders.org | Blog: http://playingwithsid.blogspot.com The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage. http://in.yahoo.com/ From vilmar at informal.com.br Sat Jan 16 00:50:50 2010 From: vilmar at informal.com.br (jose vilmar estacio de souza) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 22:50:50 -0200 Subject: speech-dispatcher and libao Message-ID: <4B510D6A.9030803@informal.com.br> Hi all, I'm trying to run speech-dispatcher configure to use libao in my karmic box. I am receiving the following error: libao ERROR: error opening libao dev -- What am I doing wrong? Thanks. []S José Vilmar Estácio de Souza http://www.informal.com.br Msn:vilmar at informal.com.br Skype:jvilmar Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jvesouza Phone: +55 21-2555-2650 Cel: +55 21-8868-0859 From gcasse at oralux.org Sat Jan 16 15:10:07 2010 From: gcasse at oralux.org (Gilles Casse) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 16:10:07 +0100 Subject: speech-dispatcher and libao In-Reply-To: <4B510D6A.9030803@informal.com.br> References: <4B510D6A.9030803@informal.com.br> Message-ID: <4B51D6CF.9090907@oralux.org> jose vilmar estacio de souza a écrit : > I'm trying to run speech-dispatcher configure to use libao in my karmic box. > I am receiving the following error: > libao ERROR: error opening libao dev > The 32 bits libao2 library can not be used as is under Ubuntu and probably other distributions. This is due to an uncompatible path as described in Bug #227475. The libao2 package included in voxin 0.26 fixes this, but the fix could not be the solution followed by distro. The details are in launchpad: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ia32-libs/+bug/227475 Gilles From j.schmude at gmail.com Sat Jan 16 20:29:37 2010 From: j.schmude at gmail.com (Jacob Schmude) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 13:29:37 -0700 Subject: accessibility broken in Lucid alpha 2? Message-ID: Hi Everyone I just gave Lucid alpha 2 a go and it appears accessibility support still seems to be broken. From what I'm seeing, at-spi-registryd is segfaulting and cannot start properly. This was mentioned a couple days ago when it broke, but it seems it was not fixed in alpha 2. Can anyone else confirm this? The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at or repair. --Douglas Adams From kb8aey at verizon.net Sat Jan 16 22:55:28 2010 From: kb8aey at verizon.net (mike) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 16:55:28 -0600 (CST) Subject: I need a audio player with party mode Message-ID: <0KWD000Z13OGJDE0@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, does anyone know of a audio player other than writhem box that has party mode and works with Orca? Writhom box works, but the computer locks up when it changes songs if I use party mode. Mike. From kb8aey at verizon.net Mon Jan 18 02:14:01 2010 From: kb8aey at verizon.net (mike) Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 20:14:01 -0600 (CST) Subject: rhythm box Message-ID: <0KWF0010S7JDKDO1@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, I experimented a little more, and my problem seems to be something to do with Orca running when rhythm box changes songs. The computer locks up if Orca is running. But if Orca is turned off it works fine. Has anyone else had this problem? I am using lucid. Mike. From javier at tiflolinux.org Mon Jan 18 07:15:52 2010 From: javier at tiflolinux.org (Francisco Javier Dorado =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mart=EDnez?=) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 08:15:52 +0100 Subject: rhythm box In-Reply-To: <0KWF0010S7JDKDO1@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> References: <0KWF0010S7JDKDO1@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <1263798952.30105.6.camel@javi-laptop> Hi all Sure, I can confirm that in Karmic too. If you kill orca Rhythmbox continues playing. Is like the audio get muted but system is locked until one of both Orca or Rhythmbox is killed. I thought it was missconfiguration Regards Javier El dom, 17-01-2010 a las 20:14 -0600, mike escribió:. > Hi, I experimented a little more, and my problem seems to be something to do with Orca running when rhythm box changes songs. The computer locks up if Orca is running. But if Orca is turned off it works fine. > Has anyone else had this problem? I am using lucid. > Mike. > From stormdragon2976 at gmail.com Mon Jan 18 07:43:59 2010 From: stormdragon2976 at gmail.com (Storm Dragon) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 02:43:59 -0500 Subject: rhythm box In-Reply-To: <1263798952.30105.6.camel@javi-laptop> References: <0KWF0010S7JDKDO1@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> <1263798952.30105.6.camel@javi-laptop> Message-ID: <1263800639.2759.46.camel@stormdragon-laptop> Hi, You can fix this by checking the crossfade option in preferences under the playback tab. Set the seconds for 3 or more. HTH Storm -- Follow me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stormdragon2976 My blog, Thoughts of a Dragon: http://www.stormdragon.us/ What color dragon are you? http://quizfarm.com/quizzes/new/alustriel07/what-color-dragon-would-you-be/ On Mon, 2010-01-18 at 08:15 +0100, Francisco Javier Dorado Martínez wrote: > Hi all > > Sure, I can confirm that in Karmic too. If you kill orca Rhythmbox > continues playing. Is like the audio get muted but system is locked > until one of both Orca or Rhythmbox is killed. > > I thought it was missconfiguration > > Regards > > Javier > > El dom, 17-01-2010 a las 20:14 -0600, mike escribió:. > > > Hi, I experimented a little more, and my problem seems to be something to do with Orca running when rhythm box changes songs. The computer locks up if Orca is running. But if Orca is turned off it works fine. > > Has anyone else had this problem? I am using lucid. > > Mike. > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From halim.sahin at freenet.de Tue Jan 19 10:54:38 2010 From: halim.sahin at freenet.de (Halim Sahin) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 11:54:38 +0100 Subject: rhythm box In-Reply-To: <1263800639.2759.46.camel@stormdragon-laptop> References: <0KWF0010S7JDKDO1@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> <1263800639.2759.46.camel@stormdragon-laptop> Message-ID: <20100119105438.GA5879@gentoo.local> Hi Storm, On Mo, Jan 18, 2010 at 07:43:59 +0000, Storm Dragon wrote: > Hi, > You can fix this by checking the crossfade option in preferences under > the playback tab. Set the seconds for 3 or more. It would be more helpfull to fix the problem itself instead of doing a workarround. have you added a bugreport in gnome's bugzilla? BR. halim From vilmar at informal.com.br Tue Jan 19 14:43:45 2010 From: vilmar at informal.com.br (jose vilmar estacio de souza) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 12:43:45 -0200 Subject: compiling speech-dispatcher with support to ibmtts Message-ID: <4B55C521.2060304@informal.com.br> Hi all, I am try compile speech-dispatcher with support to ibmtts. I tried the following command: ./configure --with-ibmtts and I receive the following: checking for eciStop in -libmeci... no *** IBM TTS ECI library missing. Compiling without IBM TTS support! See INSTALL. IBM TTS support is not available. Sorry. Any idea? Thanks. -- []S José Vilmar Estácio de Souza http://www.informal.com.br Msn:vilmar at informal.com.br Skype:jvilmar Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jvesouza Phone: +55 21-2555-2650 Cel: +55 21-8868-0859 From themuso at ubuntu.com Tue Jan 19 21:49:07 2010 From: themuso at ubuntu.com (Luke Yelavich) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 08:49:07 +1100 Subject: compiling speech-dispatcher with support to ibmtts In-Reply-To: <4B55C521.2060304@informal.com.br> References: <4B55C521.2060304@informal.com.br> Message-ID: <20100119214907.GA2906@strigy.yelavich.home> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 01:43:45AM EST, jose vilmar estacio de souza wrote: > Hi all, > I am try compile speech-dispatcher with support to ibmtts. > I tried the following command: > ./configure --with-ibmtts > and I receive the following: > checking for eciStop in -libmeci... no > *** IBM TTS ECI library missing. Compiling without IBM TTS support! See > INSTALL. > IBM TTS support is not available. Sorry. > Any idea? Where are the ibmtts headers located? If they are in a non-standard location, such as /opt/IBM or some such, you need to tell speech-dispatcher where to find them. If there are no configuration flags to do this, please let me know and I'll patch speech-dispatcher to check for headers in a specified location. Luke From halim.sahin at freenet.de Tue Jan 19 22:38:19 2010 From: halim.sahin at freenet.de (Halim Sahin) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 23:38:19 +0100 Subject: compiling speech-dispatcher with support to ibmtts In-Reply-To: <20100119214907.GA2906@strigy.yelavich.home> References: <4B55C521.2060304@informal.com.br> <20100119214907.GA2906@strigy.yelavich.home> Message-ID: <20100119223819.GA11959@gentoo.local> hi Luke and list, The eci.h needs to be in /usr/include. The libs should be symlinked to /usr/lib/libetidev.so and /usr/lib/libibmeci.so And you need also the old libstdc++ in /usr/lib After these steps are complete, speechd can detect the ibmtts. BR. Halim From hammera at pickup.hu Wed Jan 20 07:40:20 2010 From: hammera at pickup.hu (Hammer Attila) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 08:40:20 +0100 Subject: Some gnome-volume-control question with Lucid Message-ID: <4B56B364.60801@pickup.hu> Hy List, I have some possible trivial questions with new gnome-volume-control application since 9.10, and possible I nock opened doors. :-):-) 1. When I choosing Input Analog Stereo with gnome-volume-control application hardware page, my speech is muted. I am using Speech-dispatcher with Bill Cox first pulseaudio driver. Possible this is right work (muted the speech when I choosing only input profile, not output analog stereo input analog stereo profile)? 2. Oldest gnome-volume-control application (2.26 and lower versions) is provide more settings, with now missing. For example: input source setting, etc. For example my notebook have an Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03 type sound card, and my machine one Jack input provide linein or Microphone record, with possible toggle what can I want. Alsamixer wonderful toggle this, but now new gnome-volume-control application impossible to toggle this setting. If I choosing with Input device with input page, only possible setting the input volume. Another example is my friend problem. He using an Audigy2zs notebook sound card. Oldest gnome-volume-control application version he need toggling the "tone" checkbox, if he using he sound card with 5.1 sound preference. If he toggle the "tone" checkbox, not distorted the front speaker if the tone checkbox is checked. Now, this checkbox is missing he, only solving he problem is setting this mixer value with amixer with gnome-terminal. Have an useful tips or tricks to extend the builtin gnome-volume-control features, or only working solution is installing gnome-alsamixer application? If I known right, this is not Ubuntu specific feature only, I think gnome-volume-control application is redesigned with since GNOME-2.28 version. Is this correct? For example, I read following bugreport: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-media/+bug/440465 This is not full related with my described problems, because I not want remove pulseaudio, because wonderful work Bill Speech-dispatcher driver my machine. But, if I known right, if I compiling gnome-media package with --disable-pulseaudio toggle, possible get back old gnome-volume-control user form. Not possible do different gnome-media packages, one with using Pulseaudio and one with compiled disabled pulseaudio flag? Attila From vilmar at informal.com.br Fri Jan 22 01:53:20 2010 From: vilmar at informal.com.br (jose vilmar estacio de souza) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 23:53:20 -0200 Subject: compiling speech-dispatcher with support to ibmtts In-Reply-To: <20100119214907.GA2906@strigy.yelavich.home> References: <4B55C521.2060304@informal.com.br> <20100119214907.GA2906@strigy.yelavich.home> Message-ID: <4B590510.8080807@informal.com.br> Hi Luke, Ibmtts modules are located at /opt/IBM/ibmtts. I tried to use the LDFLAS as follows: ./configure --with-ibmtts LDFLAGS=-L/opt/IBM/ibmtts/lib/ and I receive the same error. On 01/19/2010 07:49 PM, Luke Yelavich wrote: > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 01:43:45AM EST, jose vilmar estacio de souza wrote: > >> Hi all, >> I am try compile speech-dispatcher with support to ibmtts. >> I tried the following command: >> ./configure --with-ibmtts >> and I receive the following: >> checking for eciStop in -libmeci... no >> *** IBM TTS ECI library missing. Compiling without IBM TTS support! See >> INSTALL. >> IBM TTS support is not available. Sorry. >> Any idea? >> > Where are the ibmtts headers located? If they are in a non-standard location, such as /opt/IBM or some such, you need to tell speech-dispatcher where to find them. If there are no configuration flags to do this, please let me know and I'll patch speech-dispatcher to check for headers in a specified location. > > Luke > > From vilmar at informal.com.br Fri Jan 22 02:13:05 2010 From: vilmar at informal.com.br (jose vilmar estacio de souza) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 00:13:05 -0200 Subject: compiling speech-dispatcher with support to ibmtts In-Reply-To: <20100119223819.GA11959@gentoo.local> References: <4B55C521.2060304@informal.com.br> <20100119214907.GA2906@strigy.yelavich.home> <20100119223819.GA11959@gentoo.local> Message-ID: <4B5909B1.2090003@informal.com.br> Hi, Maybe I'm doing something wrong, because it did not work. I copied the ice.h file from /opt/IBM/ibmtts/inc to /usr/include and the two libraries were already linked. Thanks. On 01/19/2010 08:38 PM, Halim Sahin wrote: > hi Luke and list, > The eci.h needs to be in /usr/include. > The libs should be symlinked to /usr/lib/libetidev.so > and > /usr/lib/libibmeci.so > And you need also the old libstdc++ in /usr/lib > > After these steps are complete, speechd can detect the ibmtts. > > BR. > Halim > > > > From halim.sahin at freenet.de Fri Jan 22 09:55:13 2010 From: halim.sahin at freenet.de (Halim Sahin) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 10:55:13 +0100 Subject: compiling speech-dispatcher with support to ibmtts In-Reply-To: <4B5909B1.2090003@informal.com.br> References: <4B55C521.2060304@informal.com.br> <20100119214907.GA2906@strigy.yelavich.home> <20100119223819.GA11959@gentoo.local> <4B5909B1.2090003@informal.com.br> Message-ID: <20100122095513.GA20139@gentoo.local> Hi, Have you checked the presence of /usr/lib/libstdc++-3-libc6.2-2-2.10.0.so BR. halim -- Halim Sahin E-Mail: halim.sahin (at) t-online.de From aruni100 at gmail.com Fri Jan 22 12:53:48 2010 From: aruni100 at gmail.com (Aaruni) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 18:23:48 +0530 Subject: updating espeak on karmic Message-ID: <7b50bde31001220453g253397b7m58c451f5bceeeb2d@mail.gmail.com> -- aruni http://aruni100.googlepages.com ph: 0522 4042921, mobile: 09335844700 c-103, sec H, Aliganj, Lucknow--24 yahoo.id: aruni100 msn id: aruni100 at msn.com skype id: aruni_sharma Hello, I tried to update espeak by removing it thourgh apt-get remove and then installing from the source. however, I got some error regarding non-availability of some package which I could not install through apt-get install. can someone guide me here? thanks, Aruni. From vilmar at informal.com.br Fri Jan 22 14:04:00 2010 From: vilmar at informal.com.br (jose vilmar estacio de souza) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 12:04:00 -0200 Subject: compiling speech-dispatcher with support to ibmtts In-Reply-To: <20100122095513.GA20139@gentoo.local> References: <4B55C521.2060304@informal.com.br> <20100119214907.GA2906@strigy.yelavich.home> <20100119223819.GA11959@gentoo.local> <4B5909B1.2090003@informal.com.br> <20100122095513.GA20139@gentoo.local> Message-ID: <4B59B050.2010401@informal.com.br> Hi, Yes, it is there. vilmar at ii:~$ ls -l /usr/lib/libstdc++-3-libc6.2-2-2.10.0.so -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1295276 2006-07-13 13:39 /usr/lib/libstdc++-3-libc6.2-2-2.10.0.so Thanks. On 01/22/2010 07:55 AM, Halim Sahin wrote: > Hi, > Have you checked the presence of > /usr/lib/libstdc++-3-libc6.2-2-2.10.0.so > BR. > halim > > From halim.sahin at freenet.de Fri Jan 22 19:26:29 2010 From: halim.sahin at freenet.de (Halim Sahin) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 20:26:29 +0100 Subject: compiling speech-dispatcher with support to ibmtts In-Reply-To: <4B59B050.2010401@informal.com.br> References: <4B55C521.2060304@informal.com.br> <20100119214907.GA2906@strigy.yelavich.home> <20100119223819.GA11959@gentoo.local> <4B5909B1.2090003@informal.com.br> <20100122095513.GA20139@gentoo.local> <4B59B050.2010401@informal.com.br> Message-ID: <20100122192629.GA16022@gentoo.local> Hi, Then open your config.log, search for ibmtts and post the next lines related to it. BR. halim -- Halim Sahin E-Mail: halim.sahin (at) t-online.de From vilmar at informal.com.br Fri Jan 22 20:23:15 2010 From: vilmar at informal.com.br (jose vilmar estacio de souza) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 18:23:15 -0200 Subject: compiling speech-dispatcher with support to ibmtts In-Reply-To: <20100122192629.GA16022@gentoo.local> References: <4B55C521.2060304@informal.com.br> <20100119214907.GA2906@strigy.yelavich.home> <20100119223819.GA11959@gentoo.local> <4B5909B1.2090003@informal.com.br> <20100122095513.GA20139@gentoo.local> <4B59B050.2010401@informal.com.br> <20100122192629.GA16022@gentoo.local> Message-ID: <4B5A0933.5040609@informal.com.br> Hi, I believe that the following lines are relevant: configure:11349: checking for eciStop in -libmeci configure:11374: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 conftest.c -libmeci -libmeci >&5 /usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.1/../../../../lib/libibmeci.so when searching for -libmeci /usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/../lib/libibmeci.so when searching for -libmeci /usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.1/../../../libibmeci.so when searching for -libmeci /usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib64/libibmeci.so when searching for -libmeci /usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/libibmeci.so when searching for -libmeci /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -libmeci collect2: ld returned 1 exit status configure:11374: $? = 1 configure: failed program was: | /* confdefs.h */ One important thing that probably I did not mention in my previous messages, is that I am trying to compile in a 64-bit karmic machine. Since libibmeci is an ELF 32-bit, I believe that the conftest program can not be linked with this library, unless it is generated as an ELF 32-bit. On 01/22/2010 05:26 PM, Halim Sahin wrote: > Hi, > Then open your config.log, search for ibmtts and post the > next lines related to it. > BR. > halim > > > From gcasse at oralux.org Sat Jan 23 18:50:37 2010 From: gcasse at oralux.org (Gilles Casse) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 19:50:37 +0100 Subject: compiling speech-dispatcher with support to ibmtts In-Reply-To: <4B5A0933.5040609@informal.com.br> References: <4B55C521.2060304@informal.com.br> <20100119214907.GA2906@strigy.yelavich.home> <20100119223819.GA11959@gentoo.local> <4B5909B1.2090003@informal.com.br> <20100122095513.GA20139@gentoo.local> <4B59B050.2010401@informal.com.br> <20100122192629.GA16022@gentoo.local> <4B5A0933.5040609@informal.com.br> Message-ID: <4B5B44FD.7010008@oralux.org> Hi, jose vilmar estacio de souza wrote: > Since libibmeci is an ELF 32-bit, I believe that the conftest program > can not be linked with this library, unless it is generated as an ELF > 32-bit. > Yes. And sd_ibmtts dependes on two other libraries (libsdaudio from speech dispatcher and dotconf). Usually I build the speech-dispatcher-ibmtts package on a 32 bits machine and uses it as is for 64 bits. A solution for building speech-dispatcher and the ibmtts module locally on your 64 bits machine, would be in three steps: * build speech-dispatcher for 64 bits without ibmtts support and installs it as is. * then build speech-dispatcher with ibmtts support for 32 bits using the -m32 compilation flag. * And finally install the 32 bits sd_ibmtts module in the speech-dispatcher tree. This script does this: http://soft.oralux.net/speech-dispatcher/install_ibmtts_64/ Best regards, Gilles From dave.hunt2 at verizon.net Sat Jan 23 20:44:30 2010 From: dave.hunt2 at verizon.net (Dave Hunt) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 15:44:30 -0500 Subject: Orca cursoring no longer works. Message-ID: <4B5B5FAE.8080507@verizon.net> Since upgrading Firefox from Shiratoko to Nameroka, I can no longer navigate web pages with the cursor. Furthermore, when I highlight a control by using Tab, the cursor still appears to be at top of page. How can I either role firefox back or fix Orca to get around this? Thanks, Dave Ubuntu 9.10; Orca 2.28.0; Gnome 2.28.0. From dave.hunt2 at verizon.net Sat Jan 23 22:22:42 2010 From: dave.hunt2 at verizon.net (Dave Hunt) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 17:22:42 -0500 Subject: Orca cursoring no longer works. In-Reply-To: <4B5B5FAE.8080507@verizon.net> References: <4B5B5FAE.8080507@verizon.net> Message-ID: <4B5B76B2.8010003@verizon.net> Ok, so I roled Firefox back to the 'stock' one that comes with Karmic, and have webpage navigation as it was before. Now, on some pages, E. G. accessibletwitter.com, navigation by header using "h" or a level number is not reliable. If a heading is anywhere but the beginning of a line, it seems, Orca will announce a single character, and the cursor will not be moved. Sometimes, hitting the same number many times, rapidly, will move cursor. Very strange, Dave On 01/23/2010 03:44 PM, Dave Hunt wrote: > Since upgrading Firefox from Shiratoko to Nameroka, I can no longer > navigate web pages with the cursor. Furthermore, when I highlight a > control by using Tab, the cursor still appears to be at top of page. > How can I either role firefox back or fix Orca to get around this? > > Thanks, > > > Dave > > > > Ubuntu 9.10; Orca 2.28.0; Gnome 2.28.0. > > > > From vilmar at informal.com.br Sun Jan 24 04:35:15 2010 From: vilmar at informal.com.br (jose vilmar estacio de souza) Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 02:35:15 -0200 Subject: what this message means? Message-ID: <4B5BCE03.8040804@informal.com.br> Hi all, When I run firefox in a terminal session, I receive the following message: (firefox:15290): GLib-WARNING **: g_set_prgname() called multiple times What is this? Thanks. -- []S José Vilmar Estácio de Souza http://www.informal.com.br Msn:vilmar at informal.com.br Skype:jvilmar Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jvesouza Phone: +55 21-2555-2650 Cel: +55 21-8868-0859 From vilmar at informal.com.br Sun Jan 24 04:36:07 2010 From: vilmar at informal.com.br (jose vilmar estacio de souza) Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 02:36:07 -0200 Subject: what this message means? Message-ID: <4B5BCE37.3060602@informal.com.br> Hi all, When I run firefox in a terminal session, I receive the following message: (firefox:15290): GLib-WARNING **: g_set_prgname() called multiple times What is this? Thanks. -- []S José Vilmar Estácio de Souza http://www.informal.com.br Msn:vilmar at informal.com.br Skype:jvilmar Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jvesouza Phone: +55 21-2555-2650 Cel: +55 21-8868-0859 From rakesh_ambati at yahoo.com Sun Jan 24 06:24:46 2010 From: rakesh_ambati at yahoo.com (Arky) Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 11:54:46 +0530 (IST) Subject: what this message means? In-Reply-To: <4B5BCE37.3060602@informal.com.br> References: <4B5BCE37.3060602@informal.com.br> Message-ID: <905423.121.qm@web94906.mail.in2.yahoo.com> Hi Jose, Its known issue, pretty harmless. Looks like there is fix for it already. https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/emacs-snapshot/+bug/501670 cheers --arky Rakesh 'arky' Ambati| IT Consultant| http://www.braillewithoutborders.org | Blog: http://playingwithsid.blogspot.com ----- Original Message ---- > From: jose vilmar estacio de souza > To: ubuntu > Sent: Sun, 24 January, 2010 10:06:07 AM > Subject: what this message means? > > Hi all, > When I run firefox in a terminal session, I receive the following message: > (firefox:15290): GLib-WARNING **: g_set_prgname() called multiple times > > What is this? > Thanks. > > -- > > []S José Vilmar Estácio de Souza > http://www.informal.com.br > Msn:vilmar at informal.com.br Skype:jvilmar > Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jvesouza > Phone: +55 21-2555-2650 Cel: +55 21-8868-0859 > > > -- > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage. http://in.yahoo.com/ From kb8aey at verizon.net Tue Jan 26 00:37:13 2010 From: kb8aey at verizon.net (mike) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 18:37:13 -0600 (CST) Subject: lucid looking good Message-ID: <0KWT00E78WE0MA54@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, I installed lucid on a computer today and found the following with a fresh install. With out Bills driver speech is still a little slow. I hope this driver is included by default soon. Speakup now compiles fine, and I was able to switch between the consul and the gnome desktop just fine with two exceptions. On this laptop, it goes into standby mode when I switch back to gnome. But entering my password works, and both speakup and Orca work now. In the consul, speakup works fine. But for some reason I have to press enter twice to get it talking. After that, it works fine. Keep up the good work. Lucid is looking good. I also saw a new program called simple scan. Will this let you save pages in text format? Mike. From kb8aey at verizon.net Tue Jan 26 03:45:59 2010 From: kb8aey at verizon.net (mike) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 21:45:59 -0600 (CST) Subject: I need a scan program Message-ID: <0KWU00M3254MZLH3@vms173015.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, I connected a old scanner I had and was able to scan a page. But apparently the programs in lucid only save as images. Is there a program that works with Orca that can scan a page and save it as plain text? Mike. From dave.hunt2 at verizon.net Tue Jan 26 21:23:27 2010 From: dave.hunt2 at verizon.net (Dave Hunt) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 16:23:27 -0500 Subject: Twidgin? Message-ID: <4B5F5D4F.9020008@verizon.net> Hi, Since upgrading to Ubuntu Karmic, I can no longer reply, retweet, or favorite tweets in the subject app. In Jaunty, I could move the Orca review cursor to the name of the tweeter to whom I want to reply, and use 'orca-7' to click. This would put me into a message area where I could type my reply. Similarly, if I put the review cursor onto the "rt" text and left-clicked, I could re-tweet the selected message. I can still, however, follow links in tweets by clicking on them. Now, when I try to reply, retweet, or favorite as I used to do, nothing happens when I click. I'm using Orca and Gnome 2.28.0; They ship with the current release of Karmic. Thanks for any help, Dave Twitter: wx1gdave From dave.hunt2 at verizon.net Wed Jan 27 17:01:42 2010 From: dave.hunt2 at verizon.net (Dave Hunt) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 12:01:42 -0500 Subject: Adjusting System Services in the Karmic gui? Message-ID: <4B607176.4060304@verizon.net> Hi, In karmic, what GUI tool(s) can we use to start, stop, configure system services? In Jaunty, there was "services" applet, reachable from "menu->system->administration->services". It's not here in Karmic. When I look at "menu->system->preferences->main menu", and go to "administration" on the tree, There is no indication that this app is here, hidden, or otherwise. I found the ncurses-based tool called "sysv-init-conf", and can run it in the terminal. Orca's handling of ncurses apps, however, can be a little tricky-- it's not easy to tell where you are or what option(s) are highlighted. Best, Dave From kb8aey at verizon.net Wed Jan 27 17:24:51 2010 From: kb8aey at verizon.net (mike) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 11:24:51 -0600 (CST) Subject: can the root account be enabled in lucid easily? Message-ID: <0KWX0048C1PFB2C7@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, is there a easy way to enable the root account in lucid? I know gdm was being rewritten, so by now there must be a tool for getting to those options like we use to have. Mike. From dave.hunt2 at verizon.net Wed Jan 27 17:39:27 2010 From: dave.hunt2 at verizon.net (Dave Hunt) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 12:39:27 -0500 Subject: Fwd: Re: Pulse Audio and Speech Dispatcher in Karmic? Message-ID: <4B607A4F.3080702@verizon.net> Kudos and much gratitude to all who work on this! Here's the way Karmic is supposed to run. Best, Dave -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Pulse Audio and Speech Dispatcher in Karmic? Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 05:46:14 -0500 From: Bill Cox To: Dave Hunt Hi, David. I rewrote the pulseaudio driver for speech-dispatcher, based on work by some other folks with a libao driver. It does get rid of the long delay. The easiest way to get the patch is probably to add the Vinux/Ubuntu Karmic repository to your sources.list file, and then to apt-get upgrade. Note that if you use ibmtts, you'll need to install those files as well from the repository. To use the repository, as root, edit /etc/apt/sources.list, and add these lines at the bottom: # Vinux deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/vinux/vinux-karmic/ubuntu karmic main deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/vinux/vinux-karmic/ubuntu karmic main Next, you want to tell your system not to complain about unsigned packages when installing. To do this, import the key from Ubuntu with: $ sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys EF2AFDCF Then, do the usual apt-get commands: $ sudo apt-get update $ sudo apt-get upgrade That should update speech-dispatcher and espeak. If you use speakup and speechd-up, then the speechd-up package will be updated as well, so that it can run as a service on boot. Base on e-mails I read from Luke, it seems likely that Lucid will ship with a new pulseaudio driver based on this work, and should have much better performance. I hope to release a Vinux/Ubuntu Lucid ISO shortly afterwards, probably in May, which has these improvements and more. Best regards, Bill On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Dave Hunt wrote: > Am I correct in understanding that you have written software that allows > Speech Dispatcher and one's favorite synth engine to work with Pulse Audio, > without the well-known delay? If so, I'd like instructions, or a link to > same, for applying your changes. > > I am running Karmic with Pulse Audio, but using Gnome Speech Services, > instead of Speech Dispatcher. There is no significant delay, but, since > Gnome Speech Services will soon be depricated, I'd like to have a Speech > Dispatcher configuration that does not render Orca nearly useless, when > Pulse Audio is in the system. It is my understanding that all the major > Linux distros are moving to Pulse Audio, so, we should make this work! > > > Best Regards, > > > Dave Hunt > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave.hunt2 at verizon.net Wed Jan 27 20:24:55 2010 From: dave.hunt2 at verizon.net (Dave Hunt) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 15:24:55 -0500 Subject: Voice switched from Espeak to Flite Message-ID: <4B60A117.4090807@verizon.net> Hi, While running the new speech dispatcher from the Vinux Karmic repository, the voice switched from Espeak to Flite, automatically. Is this a fail-safe in the event that Espeak crashes? Restarting Orca and Speech Dispatcher restored Espeak. Thanks, Dave From j.schmude at gmail.com Wed Jan 27 21:25:20 2010 From: j.schmude at gmail.com (Jacob Schmude) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 14:25:20 -0700 Subject: Voice switched from Espeak to Flite In-Reply-To: <4B60A117.4090807@verizon.net> References: <4B60A117.4090807@verizon.net> Message-ID: <4B60AF40.8070200@gmail.com> Hi Speech dispatcher will fall back on whatever module it can if the current one crashes, so yes this is a failsafe. I'm not using the vinux repositories at the moment, but they must have flite enabled. I don't have it enabled, my modules are ibmtts then espeak then dummy. Flite gives me a headache if I hear it for longer than about 5 seconds :). I'd like to use espeak but the sd_espeak module has some stability issues, especially though not exclusively on multi-core systems. On 01/27/2010 01:24 PM, Dave Hunt wrote: > Hi, > > While running the new speech dispatcher from the Vinux Karmic > repository, the voice switched from Espeak to Flite, automatically. Is > this a fail-safe in the event that Espeak crashes? Restarting Orca and > Speech Dispatcher restored Espeak. > > > Thanks, > > > Dave > > > > > From dave.hunt2 at verizon.net Thu Jan 28 22:58:00 2010 From: dave.hunt2 at verizon.net (Dave Hunt) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 17:58:00 -0500 Subject: Adjusting System Services in the Karmic gui? In-Reply-To: <4B607176.4060304@verizon.net> References: <4B607176.4060304@verizon.net> Message-ID: <4B621678.1060308@verizon.net> I found a GUI tool for starting and stopping services in Karmic called Bum. It is accessible with Orca, when run from the terminal with 'sudo'. See discussion here: http://guvnr.com/pc/ubuntu-disable-services/ HTH, Dave On 01/27/2010 12:01 PM, Dave Hunt wrote: > Hi, > > In karmic, what GUI tool(s) can we use to start, stop, configure system > services? In Jaunty, there was "services" applet, reachable from > "menu->system->administration->services". It's not here in Karmic. > When I look at "menu->system->preferences->main menu", and go to > "administration" on the tree, There is no indication that this app is > here, hidden, or otherwise. I found the ncurses-based tool called > "sysv-init-conf", and can run it in the terminal. Orca's handling of > ncurses apps, however, can be a little tricky-- it's not easy to tell > where you are or what option(s) are highlighted. > > > Best, > > > Dave > > > > > From kb8aey at verizon.net Fri Jan 29 17:18:40 2010 From: kb8aey at verizon.net (mike) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 11:18:40 -0600 (CST) Subject: good job on lucid Message-ID: <0KX000A7XQR4R4F5@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> Hi Luke and all. Good job on lucid. I noticed speech is much faster after getting updates today. I did run into one problem. After updating speakup no longer works. Is this a known problem. I will try re compiling it and see if that corrects the problem. Mike. From hammera at pickup.hu Fri Jan 29 17:44:13 2010 From: hammera at pickup.hu (Hammer Attila) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 18:44:13 +0100 Subject: good job on lucid In-Reply-To: <0KX000A7XQR4R4F5@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> References: <0KX000A7XQR4R4F5@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <4B631E6D.8040901@pickup.hu> Dear List, Luke, congratulation the good job. I have some questions: What libao driver integrated? Original libao driver or Bill modifyed driver? I am not looking now the daily live cd, but I will be look with next week and testing. Now I am using Bill Cox modifyed driver with me installed system, but need my system with reinstalling. In future, not will be change Pulseaudio and Speech-dispatcher starting with daemon mode? Now if I known right, Pulseaudio starting with user session. For example, I think the daemon starting is important with accessible login feature, but I am not sure. In future, accessible login feature will be working with final release? I ask this, because I setting up every setting with right, but this feature now not working, or Orca is not talking when the login screen is present my system. I do following: 1. Setting accessibility setting with gdm with following command: sudo -u gdm gconftool-2 -s -t bool /desktop/gnome/interface/accessibility true 2. Setting screen reader support enabled: sudo -u gdm gconftool-2 -s -t bool /desktop/gnome/applications/at/screen_reader_enabled true If I verify this settings, all ok: sudo -u gdm gconftool-2 -g /desktop/gnome/interface/accessibility command showing true, and sudo -u gconftool-2 -g /desktop/gnome/applications/at/screen_reader_enabled command showing true. Anybody confirm this problem? I hope my system only need a reinstalling. If anybody confirm my problem if need, I opening a bugreport. I think final Lucid release will be a fantastic Ubuntu release. Attila From weavermicha at googlemail.com Fri Jan 29 20:25:52 2010 From: weavermicha at googlemail.com (michael weaver) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 20:25:52 +0000 Subject: running the karmic live cd with orca Message-ID: <4b634367.1067f10a.5c7d.ffffbf6e@mx.google.com> how do i run the live cd of karmic with orca? for some reason i managed to do it when i got my new desktop pc but a couple of days ago i tried to run the live cd and i couldn't get the speech to run until i typed alt f2 and orca which keeps taking me through the orca setup, loggs me out and i can't log back in again when i hear the drums. what i tried doing was waiting for the cd to stop spinning, pressed enter, pressed f5, pressed 3 and enter twice. i have tried this several times and done it at different times but i still can't bring up orca correctly so it must have been more by good luck than good management when i was successful at doing it. From waywardgeek at gmail.com Fri Jan 29 21:50:20 2010 From: waywardgeek at gmail.com (Bill Cox) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 16:50:20 -0500 Subject: speech-dispatcher now requires ~root/.speech-dispatcher when run as service Message-ID: <499d69a01001291350ta1f4985g7cb5c0f2af3e5fdb@mail.gmail.com> Hi. The speech-dispatcher I updated in Karmic today no longer works out-of-the box with /etc/init.d/speech-dispatcher. Even with the -C flag to specify a directory, it insists that ~root/.speech-dispatcher exists. A symbolic link from that to /etc/speech-dispatcher also fails, since speechd.conf is not in a conf sub-directory. Is this a bug in speech-dispatcher, or should I just configure the system service in ~root/.speech-dispatcher rather than /etc? Thanks, Bill From waywardgeek at gmail.com Sun Jan 31 15:27:58 2010 From: waywardgeek at gmail.com (Bill Cox) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 10:27:58 -0500 Subject: Accessible install and Vinux? Message-ID: <499d69a01001310727r6425a4c3yce93aa0e2c05b449@mail.gmail.com> I think Lucid is on track to be a fabulous distro for accessibility. I'm working on a Vinux ISO based on Ubuntu Lucid, and I'm pretty excited about it. However, even better than having a separate ISO would be having a Vinux-like install option. Is there any chance that the we Vinux guys could work with the Luke and the Ubuntu accessibility guys on adding a bunch of cool accessibility stuff automatically when an accessible install is selected? In particular, a more accessible desktop environment (different /etc/skel), and speakup support would be a huge improvement for an accessible install, IMO. I'd much rather work on an accessible install for Ubuntu than a separate Vinux/Ubuntu ISO. Any chance this could happen? Thanks, Bill From waywardgeek at gmail.com Sun Jan 31 15:56:08 2010 From: waywardgeek at gmail.com (Bill Cox) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 10:56:08 -0500 Subject: Anyone know how to increase the console font size Message-ID: <499d69a01001310756i577b5fa9oef5b51ed979e0433@mail.gmail.com> In Ubuntu Lucid Alpha, the fonts on the console are really tiny. In Karmic, they were nice and large. Does anyone know how to modify the console font size? Thanks, Bill From kb8aey at verizon.net Sun Jan 31 21:59:22 2010 From: kb8aey at verizon.net (Mike Coulombe) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 15:59:22 -0600 (CST) Subject: problems with menus and orca in lucid Message-ID: <0KX400A8OT2YDTC0@vms173019.mailsrvcs.net> Hi, after updating yesterday I noticed orca doesn't speak the menus. Is this a known problem? Mike.