From dusek at brailcom.org Wed Jul 14 10:58:59 2010 From: dusek at brailcom.org (Boris Dusek) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 12:58:59 +0200 Subject: Status of Speech Dispatcher package Message-ID: Hello, is anyone planning to package new releases of Speech Dispatcher (0.7 was released recently)? I suppose the current packager (Luke Yelavich) has no interest to continue to do so based on what he has proposed [1], so on behalf of Brailcom, o.p.s., I announce that I will take care of packaging current (0.7) and future releases of Speech dispatcher for future Ubuntu releases, starting with Maverick (10.10). I am already in the process of packaging Speech Dispatcher 0.7 for Maverick. Our employee, Milan Zamazal, is already the maintainer of the Speech Dispatcher package in Debian [2], so it will not be hard for us to maintain the Ubuntu package. Best regards, Boris Dusek Brailcom, o.p.s. [1]: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-maverick-opentts-to-replace-speech-dispatcher [2]: http://packages.debian.org/sid/speech-dispatcher From luke.yelavich at canonical.com Wed Jul 14 12:25:50 2010 From: luke.yelavich at canonical.com (Luke Yelavich) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 22:25:50 +1000 Subject: Status of Speech Dispatcher package In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20100714122549.GA5612@strigy.yelavich.home> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 08:58:59PM EST, Boris Dusek wrote: > Hello, > > is anyone planning to package new releases of Speech Dispatcher (0.7 was > released recently)? Yes, since its now in Debian, it can be merged/udpated for Ubuntu maverick. > I suppose the current packager (Luke Yelavich) has > no interest to continue to do so based on what he has proposed [1], so on > behalf of Brailcom, o.p.s., I announce that I will take care of packaging > current (0.7) and future releases of Speech dispatcher for future Ubuntu > releases, starting with Maverick (10.10). Thanks for your offer of help. Even though I proposed that change, this does not mean I will totally abandon maintaining the speech-dispatcher package in Ubuntu. I still hoep that both projects can one day merge and work together again. > I am already in the process of packaging Speech Dispatcher 0.7 for > Maverick. Our employee, Milan Zamazal, is already the maintainer of the > Speech Dispatcher package in Debian [2], so it will not be hard for us to > maintain the Ubuntu package. There are a few differences in packaging for Ubuntu that need to be carried, so the update procedure for this package now is what is known as a merge. This shouldn't take me too long to do, so I'm willing to help whereever I can to get this updated. Luke From waywardgeek at gmail.com Wed Jul 14 13:29:54 2010 From: waywardgeek at gmail.com (Bill Cox) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 06:29:54 -0700 Subject: Status of Speech Dispatcher package In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I packaged the 0.7 release of speech-dispatcher for Vinux, but it broke compatibility with speechd-up, which is no longer maintained. Most Vinux testers who use the testing repository rely on either speechd-up or ospeakup, so I was forced to remove the new speech-dispatcher package, as testers were all losing speech in their consoles. Alternatively, I could get speechd-up working with the latest speech-dispatcher, but as ospeakup is maintained, and in much better shape than the last release of speechd-up, I didn't see the point. Bill From alan.bell at theopenlearningcentre.com Wed Jul 14 18:59:10 2010 From: alan.bell at theopenlearningcentre.com (Alan Bell) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 19:59:10 +0100 Subject: Persona Questionnaire Message-ID: <4C3E08FE.3020909@theopenlearningcentre.com> One of the projects kicked off by the accessibility team at the Ubuntu Developer Summit was to create a set of personas or fictional characters with accessibility needs. The design team have a set of personas already, each with different skills and life experiences and it is these people they think about when designing the user interface. One of their personas (Lola, a 29 year old PhD student living in Paris) is partially sighted and uses assistive technology. This is a great start, but we want to provide the design team and all those working on Ubuntu with some more detailed personas with an assortment of needs. The aim is to educate and motivate all those working on Ubuntu, accessibility isn't just a technical feature, it is about people and if some part of the system isn't available for everyone then it is broken. In order to write a series of fictional, but believable characters we have put together a survey asking people to tell us about themselves and the issues they find when interacting with computers. We collaborated on the questions that should be asked here http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/Access and now we have taken the results of that work and built an online form http://access.libertus.co.uk and an alternative text version https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accessibility/Personas/Survey which can be emailed to ubuntu.accessibility.survey at gmail.com Please take a few minutes to fill out the survey and pass it on to friends and relatives who may be able to provide interesting and useful answers. When the results are in (by August 8th or thereabouts) we will start the process of writing up the personas using the survey answers as inspiration.This will generate our realistic, but fictional, characters who will help make Ubuntu better for everyone. Thanks to all those who helped get the survey this far. Alan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From phillw at phillw.net Wed Jul 14 19:20:40 2010 From: phillw at phillw.net (Phillip Whiteside) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 20:20:40 +0100 Subject: Persona Questionnaire In-Reply-To: <4C3E08FE.3020909@theopenlearningcentre.com> References: <4C3E08FE.3020909@theopenlearningcentre.com> Message-ID: Hi Alan, I've taken the liberty to post the request to http://www.accessifyforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=16362 it is a site that has helped me get my 'AAA' / Level 3 accessibility compliance. They're a pretty demanding crowd, so do not expect them to "pull their punches". Regards, Phill. On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:59 PM, Alan Bell < alan.bell at theopenlearningcentre.com> wrote: > One of the projects kicked off by the accessibility team at the Ubuntu > Developer Summit was to create a set of personas or fictional characters > with accessibility needs. The design team have a set of personas already, > each with different skills and life experiences and it is these people they > think about when designing the user interface. One of their personas (Lola, > a 29 year old PhD student living in Paris) is partially sighted and uses > assistive technology. This is a great start, but we want to provide the > design team and all those working on Ubuntu with some more detailed personas > with an assortment of needs. The aim is to educate and motivate all those > working on Ubuntu, accessibility isn't just a technical feature, it is about > people and if some part of the system isn't available for everyone then it > is broken. > In order to write a series of fictional, but believable characters we have > put together a survey asking people to tell us about themselves and the > issues they find when interacting with computers. We collaborated on the > questions that should be asked here http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/Access and > now we have taken the results of that work and built an online form > http://access.libertus.co.uk and an alternative text version > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accessibility/Personas/Survey which can be emailed > to ubuntu.accessibility.survey at gmail.com > > Please take a few minutes to fill out the survey and pass it on to friends > and relatives who may be able to provide interesting and useful answers. > > When the results are in (by August 8th or thereabouts) we will start the > process of writing up the personas using the survey answers as > inspiration.This will generate our realistic, but fictional, characters who > will help make Ubuntu better for everyone. > > Thanks to all those who helped get the survey this far. > > Alan > > -- > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alan.bell at theopenlearningcentre.com Wed Jul 14 19:29:51 2010 From: alan.bell at theopenlearningcentre.com (Alan Bell) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 20:29:51 +0100 Subject: Persona Questionnaire In-Reply-To: <4C3E08FE.3020909@theopenlearningcentre.com> References: <4C3E08FE.3020909@theopenlearningcentre.com> Message-ID: <4C3E102F.5050102@theopenlearningcentre.com> oops the link to the correct etherpad document is http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/OGCR7tZiNX Alan. From phillw at phillw.net Wed Jul 14 19:49:30 2010 From: phillw at phillw.net (Phillip Whiteside) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 20:49:30 +0100 Subject: Persona Questionnaire In-Reply-To: <4C3E102F.5050102@theopenlearningcentre.com> References: <4C3E08FE.3020909@theopenlearningcentre.com> <4C3E102F.5050102@theopenlearningcentre.com> Message-ID: Hi Alan, http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/Access has been changed to http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/OGCR7tZiNX Regards, Phill. On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Alan Bell < alan.bell at theopenlearningcentre.com> wrote: > oops the link to the correct etherpad document is > http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/OGCR7tZiNX > > Alan. > > -- > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dusek at brailcom.org Thu Jul 15 08:58:49 2010 From: dusek at brailcom.org (Boris Dusek) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 10:58:49 +0200 Subject: Status of Speech Dispatcher package In-Reply-To: <20100714122549.GA5612@strigy.yelavich.home> References: <20100714122549.GA5612@strigy.yelavich.home> Message-ID: On Jul 14, 2010, at 2:25 PM, Luke Yelavich wrote: > There are a few differences in packaging for Ubuntu that need to be carried, so the update procedure for this package now is what is known as a merge. This shouldn't take me too long to do, so I'm willing to help whereever I can to get this updated. Thanks for your offer of help too. I noticed that you have just made the new package for Speech Dispatcher [1], and upgraded to it in my install of Maverick. Great. I also will look into harmonizing the Debian and Ubuntu packages (e.g. the Ubuntu one uses CDBS, which from what I have seen is great, the Debian package does not use it), so that it's easier to make merges in the future. Ideally the 2 packages would not differ at all (and if at anything, then at the patch set in debian/patches). Best regards, Boris [1]: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/speech-dispatcher/+bug/601114 From rakesh_ambati at yahoo.com Wed Jul 21 10:19:08 2010 From: rakesh_ambati at yahoo.com (Arky) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 03:19:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Accerciser in-place loading Message-ID: <509604.9017.qm@web94815.mail.in2.yahoo.com> Hi, To test accerciser, you can check out the source code from git and load accerciser in-place from its source. However I haven't managed to do this due to the import errors. I think I need to include the plugin folder to PythonPath, however I am missing something. Traceback (most recent call last): File "accerciser.py", line 29, in from plugin import PluginManager File "/home/arky/repos/accerciser/src/lib/accerciser/plugin/__init__.py", line 14, in from base_plugin import Plugin, ViewportPlugin, ConsolePlugin File "/home/arky/repos/accerciser/src/lib/accerciser/plugin/base_plugin.py", line 15, in from accerciser.tools import Tools File "/home/arky/repos/accerciser/src/lib/accerciser/accerciser.py", line 29, in from plugin import PluginManager Can someone help me out. Cheers --arky Rakesh 'arky' Ambati| IT Consultant| http://www.braillewithoutborders.org | Blog: http://playingwithsid.blogspot.com From kb8aey at verizon.net Thu Jul 29 19:20:32 2010 From: kb8aey at verizon.net (Mike Coulombe) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:20:32 -0700 Subject: speakup Message-ID: <4C51D480.2040709@verizon.net> Hi, what file do I need to install speakup on mavric? Mike. From themuso at ubuntu.com Sat Jul 31 02:38:18 2010 From: themuso at ubuntu.com (Luke Yelavich) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 12:38:18 +1000 Subject: speakup In-Reply-To: <4C51D480.2040709@verizon.net> References: <4C51D480.2040709@verizon.net> Message-ID: <20100731023818.GB2273@barbiton.yelavich.home> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 05:20:32AM EST, Mike Coulombe wrote: > Hi, what file do I need to install speakup on mavric? Currently, you need to install the speakup-source package, and use module-assistant to build it. However I intend to upload a new revision of the package in the coming days that will automatically build when you install the package. The new revision will also work with the Maverick kernels. Luke From michaelrcross66 at austin.rr.com Sat Jul 31 13:26:54 2010 From: michaelrcross66 at austin.rr.com (Michael Cross) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 08:26:54 -0500 Subject: Ubuntu-accessibility Digest, Vol 56, Issue 6 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8BE5DF560A024C638A770818487E8E1C@winterkid> I plan to install Vinux 3 on a 1 TB hard drive. But, I would like the flexibility to have other distributions such as SuSe and Fedora on the drive also. How should I arrange my partitions to achieve this? I have read that /Home and /usr need to be in their own partition. So, do I need to have /Home in HDA1 and /usr in HDA2? I would also like to install Windows 7 in one of the partitions. Is their an install sequence. Should I install Windows 7 first? I am thinking two 1125 GB partitions for However, since there's a limit of four primary partitions, I may have to give up the idea of having Windows on the system. Having at least two other distributions lf Linux is more important to me than having Windows on this machine. I have a second machine for Windows anyway. I need some guidence on setting up partitions and how large they should be. How many HAD partitions and HDB partitions etc do I need and how big should they be? Any advice would be welcome. Michael Cross -----Original Message----- From: ubuntu-accessibility-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-accessibility-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of ubuntu-accessibility-request at lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 6:00 AM To: ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Ubuntu-accessibility Digest, Vol 56, Issue 6 Send Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list submissions to ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ubuntu-accessibility-request at lists.ubuntu.com You can reach the person managing the list at ubuntu-accessibility-owner at lists.ubuntu.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Ubuntu-accessibility digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: speakup (Luke Yelavich) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 12:38:18 +1000 From: Luke Yelavich Subject: Re: speakup To: ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com Message-ID: <20100731023818.GB2273 at barbiton.yelavich.home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 05:20:32AM EST, Mike Coulombe wrote: > Hi, what file do I need to install speakup on mavric? Currently, you need to install the speakup-source package, and use module-assistant to build it. However I intend to upload a new revision of the package in the coming days that will automatically build when you install the package. The new revision will also work with the Maverick kernels. Luke ------------------------------ -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility End of Ubuntu-accessibility Digest, Vol 56, Issue 6 *************************************************** From manselton at gmail.com Sat Jul 31 15:06:45 2010 From: manselton at gmail.com (Maurice McCarthy) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:06:45 +0100 Subject: Ubuntu-accessibility Digest, Vol 56, Issue 6 - To Michael Cross Message-ID: On 31 July 2010 14:26, Michael Cross wrote: > I plan to install Vinux 3 on a 1 TB hard drive. But, I would like the > flexibility to have other distributions such as SuSe and Fedora on the > drive also. How should I arrange my partitions to achieve this? I have > read that /Home and /usr need to be in their own partition. So, do I > need to have /Home in HDA1 and /usr in HDA2? > I would also like to install Windows 7 in one of the partitions. Is > their an install sequence. Should I install Windows 7 first? > I am thinking two 1125 GB partitions for > However, since there's a limit of four primary partitions, I may have to > give up the idea of having Windows on the system. Having at least two > other distributions lf Linux is more important to me than having Windows > on this machine. I have a second machine for Windows anyway. I need some > guidence on setting up partitions and how large they should be. How many > HAD partitions and HDB partitions etc do I need and how big should they > be? > Any advice would be welcome. > Michael Cross > I am not well experienced in Windows 7 and have not yet used Vinux, but I shall try to give some help. Formerly you always had to install Windows before Linux because Windows refuses to co-operate with Linux but Linux recognises and co-operates with Windows. I believe this is no longer the case but I am not sure. Windows 7 will take 2 primary partitions, one for the boot files which will be hidden from normal users and one for the operating system, but all Linux systems will boot from so-called logical partitions. If you use the Windows "system restore" you may need a third partition to save the system restore files. I think this sometimes called the Data partition. The fourth partition may now become an extended partition. That is you can create as many partitions inside this extended partition as you like. Previously Windows would only boot from a primary partition but I don't know if this is still the case. On the linux systems, as you will be having many of them I would certainly have a separate home partition to keep all your personal data and files. But it will be simpler /not/ to have a separate usr partition for each distribution. I am not sure of recommended partition sizes but I shall try to find out. It may take a day or two. Do you have 2 1TB hard disks or just one. The linux terms hda and hdb usually refer to separate disks. There will also be the problem of handling the different boot loaders correctly. Please make sure you have a back up of all your personal files before starting all this as disasters can happen. Are you sighted, visually impaired or totally blind? Sorry to pry but this may affect which tools to suggest. I think you need to sighted to install Windows 7. Good Luck Maurice