Ubuntu-accessibility Digest, Vol 54, Issue 23

[Jon]

Please have a look at what is available before having a burst.
if you want something simular to gdb, then you should look into ipython.
 
Yes, Orca could have been written in c or c++, but the speed of 
development and ease of participation would be diffrent.

Please, taking a posative step and helping out is far better than being 
negative and talking the project down.

Most debug files are not more than a few k, I really dont understand 
what you mean by large files, and not having space for them.

Anyway, there are levels and filters in the orca debug module, I would 
recommend you have a look through and see what is best for your 
situation.

If you dont want to help out, then this is a diffrent matter.

Thanks.

-Jon
On Mon 24/05/2010 at 05:46:27, Kenny Hitt wrote:
> Hi.
> Just to clarify something: my attitude isn't directed at any of the people who have asked me
> questions about my Orca crash.  My attitude comes from the fact I can debug
> Linux kernel code but can't debug a fucking gnome screen reader.
> In my opinion, switching to Python from C was a mistake for a screen reader.
> 
>           Kenny
> 
> On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 05:26:13AM -0500, Kenny Hitt wrote:
> > Hi.
> > On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 10:16:36AM +0000, Valdis wrote:
> > > ...
> > > > Actually, that isn't my problem with Gnome.  My problem is lack of stability
> > > and slow response.
> > > > My time in Gnome usually ends when Orca crashes and nothing I try can get it
> > > to restart.  At that
> > > > point, anything in the Gnome session is lost.  My only option is to kill the
> > > Xserver and clean
> > > ...
> > > can you start orca with wollowing command:
> > > orca >~/orca.log 2>&1 &
> > > 
> > > And then check what appears in the log file?
> > > 
> > no,  when it crashes, nothing I do can get it to restart.  Before you ask, it isn't a tts
> > issue since speech-dispatcher is still up and running.
> > I've been running Linux for 10 years now, so I'm not your normal stupid Windows user.
> > I know how to debug problems.  Like I said in my earlier post, if this were a C program
> > I would already have filed the bug report.  The fact you can't easily debug a Python
> > app is a big weakness in Orca.
> > I don't have enough disk space to just leav the debug options in Orca enabled either, so this
> > will likely be a bug that won't get resolved any time soon.
> > 
> >           Kenny
> > 
> 
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