From krecoun at gmail.com Sat Jun 2 15:21:15 2012 From: krecoun at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?Vm9qdMSbY2ggUG9sw6HFoWVr?=) Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 17:21:15 +0200 Subject: how to turn off orca on the login screen Message-ID: <4FCA2F6B.3070604@gmail.com> Hi, I know that this question may seem stupid, but I am preparing a netbook for my family and I don't want orca to speak on the login screen. I have disabled it for user in universal access settings, but I can't find a way how to disable it for login screen. Can you please help me? I am using Ubuntu 12.04. Vojta From simon.eigeldinger at vol.at Sat Jun 2 15:45:52 2012 From: simon.eigeldinger at vol.at (Simon Eigeldinger) Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 17:45:52 +0200 Subject: how to turn off orca on the login screen In-Reply-To: <4FCA2F6B.3070604@gmail.com> References: <4FCA2F6B.3070604@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4FCA3530.1020008@vol.at> hi, with ctrl+s you can switch orca on/off at the login window. its a toggle switch. greetings, simon Am 02.06.2012 17:21, schrieb Vojtěch Polášek: > Hi, > I know that this question may seem stupid, but I am preparing a netbook > for my family and I don't want orca to speak on the login screen. I have > disabled it for user in universal access settings, but I can't find a > way how to disable it for login screen. > Can you please help me? > I am using Ubuntu 12.04. > Vojta > -- Simon Eigeldinger Follow me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/domasofan/ E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger at vol.at MSN: simon_eigeldinger at hotmail.com ICQ: 121823966 Jabber: domasofan at livejournal.com From krecoun at gmail.com Mon Jun 4 07:17:24 2012 From: krecoun at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?Vm9qdMSbY2ggUG9sw6HFoWVr?=) Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 09:17:24 +0200 Subject: audacious player Message-ID: <4FCC6104.7030406@gmail.com> Hi, I am sorry if this doesn't belong here, but I was used to use audacious player, because it had very intuitive controlls etc. Now a strange thing happens - the interface is a bit changed, but this isn't anything horible. But when I try to open some folder, it scans all of its subfolders and doesn't allow me to go further down. I can't find any setting to change this behavior. I don't want my whole collection to be loaded, I just want to pick some folder and play it. Thank you very much, Vojta From fleytin at yandex.ru Thu Jun 7 03:34:20 2012 From: fleytin at yandex.ru (Sergey V. Fleytin) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 07:34:20 +0400 Subject: audacious player In-Reply-To: <4FCC6104.7030406@gmail.com> References: <4FCC6104.7030406@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4FD0213C.6020502@yandex.ru> Hello, all! 04.06.2012 11:17, Vojtěch Polášek написал: > Hi, > I am sorry if this doesn't belong here, but I was used to use audacious > player, because it had very intuitive controlls etc. > Now a strange thing happens - the interface is a bit changed, but this > isn't anything horible. But when I try to open some folder, it scans all > of its subfolders and doesn't allow me to go further down. I did not mention how do you open these folders. If you are doing this from the audacious itself then I agree, that it is not very convinient. The "open with..." feature of Nautilus works much better in this case and does exactly what you want. Just use the the context menu on a folder and you can set it up there. HTh, Sergey. From alex.midence at gmail.com Wed Jun 13 13:26:21 2012 From: alex.midence at gmail.com (Alex Midence) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 08:26:21 -0500 Subject: Fwd: efi booting Message-ID: Hi. Can anyone on these lists say definitively if Debian or Ubuntu supports or will support EFI booting? If so, what does it take to get it to work so you don't have to tinker with the Bios? Apparently, it's the latest and greatest in the race to boot up faster if you use 64 bit machines. Alex M ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Alonzo Cuellar Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:36:03 -0500 Subject: efi botting To: Alex Midence Hello Alex, Efi or Extensible firmware interface is what windows 8 will use in the future. It is also what the mac operating system uses to boot. Making the boot process faster and direct support for 64 bit operating systems. It also allows for compatibility of newer graphics cards. I'm wanting to boot with efi support using grub-efi found in debian or ubuntu. Fedora boots with this support be default and is installed I believe when using a 64bit installations. I use 64bit linux since i have 6 gigs of ram. I had wanted to use ubuntu, but I have to change my bios setting to legacy which I'd have to do with sighted assistance. If I do not change it, ubuntu won't boot. I'm not sure if ubuntu supports efi. Hopefully this sheds some light, Alonzo From rinaschw at gmail.com Mon Jun 18 09:47:32 2012 From: rinaschw at gmail.com (Rina Schwartz) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 12:47:32 +0300 Subject: Voice control computer Message-ID: Hello My name is Rina Schwartz, Id like to be able to control my ubuntu desktop as well as applications such as gvim (or any other text editor), terminal, by voice commands. 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[1] http://simon-listens.org/ [2]: http://www.simon-listens.org/index.php?id=272&L=1 Cheers, 2012/6/18 Rina Schwartz > Hello > > My name is Rina Schwartz, > Id like to be able to control my ubuntu desktop as well as applications > such as gvim (or any other text editor), terminal, > by voice commands. > > Which packages would you recommend to use? > > Kind regards, > Rina > > -- > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility > > -- Alejandro Leiva Área de Proyectos Emergya Consultoría Tfno: +34 954 51 75 77 / +34 678 881 236 Fax: +34 954 51 64 73 www.emergya.es -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sath.linux at gmail.com Wed Jun 20 17:57:00 2012 From: sath.linux at gmail.com (sathayn linux) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 13:57:00 -0400 Subject: LIOS-1.4 Released !! Message-ID: LIOS-1.4 LIOS is a free and open source software for converting print in to text using either scanner or a camera. It can also produce text out of scanned images from other sources. Program is given total accessibility for visually impaired. LIOS is written in python and we release it under GPL3 license. LIOS will work with Debian based operating systems. LIOS is an effort from the easy-ocr development team. There are great many possibilities for this program. Feedback is the key to it. Expecting your feedback. Nalin.X.Linux at gmail.com and sath.linux at gmail.com. HOW TO INSTALL Download latest deb file from here http://code.google.com/p/linux-intelligent-ocr-solution/downloads/list open it and install What is new in LIOS-1.41. Lios will work in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS.2. 30 more Languages including Hindi available for Ubuntu 12.04 and above, in tesseract OCR Engine.3. Now gocr and ocrad have column identification and picture skipping.4. New scanner driver added.5. New user interface with scan to user interface, ocr user interface image, etc.6. New options for save, load and reset settings.7. TTS preferences for controlling volume pitch and rate.8. strengthened audio converter, rotation selector, brightness optimizer, ocr pdf capability. and extra user interface options added including image rotation, zoom options, Re-O,C,R the current image and feedback.Features.1 Single scan & Repeated Scanning,2 Ocr Folder,3 Ocr Pdf,4 Ocr image only,5 Cam-Scan,6 Scan-for-image-only & repeatedly,7 24 Language support (Given at the end). 30 more languages can be installed(Tesseract),8 Full GUI environment, scan to user interface, ocr user interface image, and extra user interface options including image rotation, zoom options, Re-O,C,R the current image and feedback.9 Selection of starting page number, page numbering mode and number of pages to scan,10 Selection of Scan area, brightness, resolution and time between repeated scanning,11 Full Auto Rotation(Dutch, English, French, German, Russian,Spanish)12 Brightness optimizer,13 Audio converter,14 Easily Accessible Preferences Window,15 4 OCR Engines (CUNEIFORM,TESSERACT,GOCR,OCRAD),16 Good text manipulation with Find, Go-To-Page, Go-To-Line, Append file, Punch File.17 Display Preferences for Low vision,18 Dictionary Support for English(Artha)19 Beta version of spell-checker,20 Provision for submitting issues,21 Special Layout analysis for Ocrad and Gocr,22 Options for save, load and reset settings,23 TTS preferences for controlling volume pitch and rate,24 And more features are in the preferences, -- *Mob : +919446012215 FREE SOFTWARE FREE SOCIETY * -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From themuso at ubuntu.com Fri Jun 22 02:01:27 2012 From: themuso at ubuntu.com (Luke Yelavich) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 12:01:27 +1000 Subject: [orca-list] Congratulations Joanie! In-Reply-To: <20120622014054.GD5841@sonata.rednote.net> References: <20120622014054.GD5841@sonata.rednote.net> Message-ID: <20120622020127.GB19096@acapella.yelavich.home> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 11:40:55AM EST, Janina Sajka wrote: > On your election to the GNOME Board of Directors! > > http://lwn.net/Articles/502910/ > > I must confess it makes me feel just a bit more hopeful for > accessibility in this environment! This is wonderful news! Congratulations! LUke From apinheiro at igalia.com Fri Jun 22 15:38:55 2012 From: apinheiro at igalia.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Pi=F1eiro?=) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 17:38:55 +0200 Subject: Explaining everybody last changes on a11y (at-spi2-atk) Message-ID: <4FE4918F.6030203@igalia.com> Hi, as some of you already now, at-spi2-atk, gtk, clutter and other upstream modules are evolving a lot these days. Anyway, taking into account some conversation on IRC and mails, it seems that it not all the people are aware (non-gnome modules, distros, etc). Sorry, sometimes I forgot that not everybody reads desktop devel list or assist to the weekly accessibility meeting. So I think that it would be good to explain it to everybody. This mail can be also used to send more questions or start a debate/brainstorm. Background: during the feature proposal period, it was proposed to have accessibility on by default. The implementation proposed was just changing the default value of 'toolkit-accessibility' to true [1]. But on the discussion at the bug opened to do this change [2], some concerns appeared. For example that this change would also mean activating the accessibility by default on old modules (like gtk+2), that didn't include the last improvements on the accessibility implementation. So the conclusion was that a11y by default was still desirable, but not with that implementation. It was concluded that it would be better to make the bridge a library, and change the tricky process of load the bridge module as a plugin to just link against the library and call a _init method. Something that was already plannified, but more for the medium/long term (in my personal case, I had doubts of gtk+ or gnome-shell accepting a new dependency). FWIW, I have this process documented on the feature page [3], and I will update it if something change. So whats the situation now?: * On next releases of at-spi2-atk, the bridge would be also exposed as a library * gtk2 bridge module is already there * gtk2 didn't change the way to load the a11y modules * gtk3 module removed the call gnome_accessibility_module_init, but it is planned to be removed [6] * gtk3 adds a new dependency, and calls the bridge init method (gnome-shell does the same) * gtk3 blacklist atk-bridge module, in order to not load it (after all, it is initializing it directly). All the changes targeted for next releases, and as Mike Gorse recently said on orca mailing list [5], be careful if you want to use master versions, as work is in progress. Although since the beginning the idea was doing the changes affecting the modules that GNOME controls, while giving time to other modules to fix their applications properly (Mozilla and LibreOffice were used as examples here [4]), some people start to raise some concerns. For example: a) Current at-spi2-atk from master (so also next releases) is no longer compatible with GNOME 3.4 b) Related with a): upgrading gtk3 would require also upgrade at-spi2-atk, so if you want last changes on gtk3, you would require that. c) As a conclusion of a) b): if you want last gtk3 you need to use the library approach. d) Adding at-spi2-atk dependency to gtk added a X dependency so some builds are broken [7] z) Are we forgetting something that could break due this change? About my personal opinion, about each of the previous items: About a): Well, thats really normal IMHO. We are right now on the 3.5 cycle, so it is normal that as some features are added and used, the version dependency for other modules increases. About b) c): This can be the tricky one. It seems that some apps using gtk3 are concerned about setting the a11y on by default (so calling the library). Luke Yelavich mentioned that it would be a problem for Unity. Probably will be also a concern for Firefox, that are in the process to migrate to gtk3. Probably this was due problems in the past. But as was said on the feature proposal thread, a lot of effort was done on the bridge/at-spi2-core to not send messages (and in general don't affect the system) unless any Assistive Technology (like Orca) is listening. Some could suggest that it would be good to maintain the gtk3 module and provide the possibility to choose between one and the other. But this sounds really tricky and error-prone. And after all, it is still possible to maintain the initialization of the accessibility conditionally: * NO_AT_BRIDGE is still working [8] (and works for gnome-shell). * Unity, Firefox and others have code to decide to load the library or not. Now they can use the same code to decide if call atk_bridge_adaptor_init or not * In fact that code would be more simple, as calling atk_bridge_adaptor_init has the equivalent effect Yes, it is true that apps using atk and gtk will need to make some changes, but AFAIK, this applies to any gtk improvement/deprecation. About d) Well, that just seems a bug that could be solved with some conditional dependency magic on configure.ac. I wouldn't consider this as a major problem. Something that probably applies with Firefox and Unity, just in the case that they don't want to add a unconditional dependency to at-spi2-atk. About z) Well, that is inherent to any new feature, right? 3.5 is unstable (and as some people says "unstable is unstable"), and we have the bugzilla for any new eventual bug. Questions, doubts, comments? BR [1] https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2012-April/msg00107.html [2] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=677491 [3] https://live.gnome.org/ThreePointFive/Features/AccessibilityOnByDefault#preview [4] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=677491#c4 [5] https://mail.gnome.org/archives/orca-list/2012-June/msg00348.html [6] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=678315 [7] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=677491#c30 [8] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=678125 -- Alejandro Piñeiro Iglesias From hanksmith at hanksmith.net Sat Jun 23 16:29:09 2012 From: hanksmith at hanksmith.net (Hank Smith) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 09:29:09 -0700 Subject: changing tabs in sounds under settings? Message-ID: <4FE5EED5.9090707@hanksmith.net> Hello under system settings, sound, how do you change tabs from output to input? left and write aros isn't doing the trick am using ubuntu 12.04 From paul-leics at virginmedia.com Sat Jun 23 16:35:10 2012 From: paul-leics at virginmedia.com (Paul Hunt) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 17:35:10 +0100 Subject: changing tabs in sounds under settings? In-Reply-To: <4FE5EED5.9090707@hanksmith.net> References: <4FE5EED5.9090707@hanksmith.net> Message-ID: <4FE5F03E.3020907@virginmedia.com> Control + page up/page down. On 23/06/12 17:29, Hank Smith wrote: > Hello under system settings, sound, how do you change tabs from output > to input? > left and write aros isn't doing the trick > am using ubuntu 12.04 > > From milton at tomaatnet.nl Wed Jun 27 14:43:52 2012 From: milton at tomaatnet.nl (Milton) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 16:43:52 +0200 Subject: how to set a shortcut key for shutdown in Precise? Message-ID: <285081CDF9274A5D94E99F98C0FF96DC@milton> Hi list, I use Precise, Unity 2D and Orca 3.4.2. I know how to define shortcut keys through the Keyboard settings. In Natty I used Control+Alt+O to shutdown the computer but in Precise this is for to log out. What command do I have to type when I want to define a shortcut key for shutdown? Thanks in advance Milton -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: