Here it is...Ubuntu Phone

[Robert Cole]

Hello, Burt.

Your e-mail was accidentally sent to me, but not to the list. I am 
forwarding your message to the list. I hope that this is alright.

Kind regards.

Take care.

On 01/04/2013 07:00 PM, B. Henry wrote:
> Well, I certainly am behind, and if the opportunity presents itself 
> alongside of those who would like to see an effort made to make all 
> Ubuntu releases as accessible as is reasonably possible.  The big word 
> is of course reasonably.
> I am someone who wants things to work for me and those with similar 
> and other limitations when it's practical. Personally I'm not that 
> unhappy with using LTS releases, but enjoyed using Maverick on several 
> machines and I'm writing to you from the version of Vinux based on 
> Natty, so I'm certainly not one who'd never use a mid-term Ubuntu 
> version.
> Perhaps if Ubuntu can gain market share and hence money from some of 
> the changes that are being implemented then some of that money can be 
> put back in to accessibility development. I can be patient with a 
> short term lapse in accessibility, but do sincerely hope that this is 
> not a strategy that is considered good enough for the long term, and 
> I'll certainly add my voice to those who are calling for  a more 
> inclusive Ubuntu.
> On the other hand I can't see that out of the box accessibility is 
> better with Fedora, or for that matter any major cutting edge/rapid 
> release distro. Maybe I'm wrong about this, but even if I'm not 
> there's no reason why just keeping a half a step ahead of average is 
> good enough when it comes to accessibility.
> Regards, and yes special regards and thanks to Luke and others who 
> work with what they have to give us the accessibility that they can.
> -- 
> Burt Henry
>
> On 01/04/2013 01:09 AM, Robert Cole wrote:
>> Hello, Nolan.
>>
>> When I first switched to Linux, I did so because I fell in love with 
>> Ubuntu. Ubuntu is what I used (exclusively) until the accessibility 
>> issues began to kick in. I am very appreciative of the hard work 
>> which the Accessibility team puts into Ubuntu, and I understand that 
>> they are very limited because fo various reasons. My frustration si 
>> most certainly not with them, but with teh company whose operating 
>> system I fell in love with back in 2006. I still remember the 
>> excitement I felt when I saw the Ubuntu philosophy "for human beings".
>>
>> But then, as time moved on, I had to move on as well. I really 
>> enjoyed using Unity, and I absolutely loved all that Ubuntu had to 
>> offer. If it was always as accessible as it once was, I would 
>> definitely go back. I don't want to sound strange in saying this, but 
>> I am kind of "homesick" for my first Linux operating system. While I 
>> am enjoying my experience with Fedora, I really miss what I had come 
>> to know in Ubuntu.
>>
>> I am not sure how I can help. I had posted a comment on Mark 
>> Shuttleworth's blog sometime in 2012, but it seemed to go unnoticed.
>>
>> I forwarded this message to the AccessibleFreedom Support mailing 
>> list; I hope that this is alright.
>>
>> In this world's eyes, I am basically a nobody, but if I can somehow 
>> lend my voice in support of what you are standing for, I will 
>> certainly do so. I am not online as much as I used to be, but as I am 
>> able I will help you in making this call for accessibility known.
>>
>> Kind regards.
>>
>> On 01/02/2013 03:50 PM, Nolan Darilek wrote:
>>> I would like to organize some sort of advocacy effort to get 
>>> Canonical to take accessibility more seriously. I understand the 
>>> limitations of the current accessibility team, but if we look back 
>>> at the state of computing two years ago vs. today, any reasonable 
>>> person would agree that telling a certain subset of the population 
>>> that they can only be assured accessible software on that schedule 
>>> while others get upgrades every six months is unreasonable. I don't 
>>> want Ubuntu to be another Android, an accessibility situation with 
>>> which I am quite familiar.
>>>
>>> I tried posting a comment here:
>>>
>>> http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1221/comment-page-1#comment-400356 
>>>
>>>
>>> because a post that claims that Canonical doesn't want to leave 
>>> users behind in 2013 seems at odds with a company whose next release 
>>> I will have guaranteed access to won't be out until 2014. 
>>> Unfortunately, my comment got caught up in Akismet and appears to 
>>> have vanished. Perhaps others who feel the same should ask Mark not 
>>> to leave accessibility behind while Canonical charges ahead in so 
>>> many other areas.
>>>
>>> Ubuntu Phone uses QML 5. I get that QT isn't as accessible, but it's 
>>> being adopted by a bunch of companies in the mobile space, so you'd 
>>> think that they'd have all contributed toward making it accessible. 
>>> Perhaps it's time for Canonical to set a good example in this space 
>>> and contribute more toward accessibility than it currently does.
>>>
>>> I'm going to start actively commenting on Canonical and other blogs, 
>>> advocating for the expansion of the accessibility team. Thoughts on 
>>> what else we can do? I'd love to do this stuff myself, but I'm 
>>> already writing an Android screen reader and working on Android 
>>> accessibility projects, and end users can't always be called upon to 
>>> take up the slack that paying companies leave behind.
>>>
>>
>>
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