From bhavi at ubuntu.com Mon Sep 9 16:07:41 2013 From: bhavi at ubuntu.com (Bhavani Shankar R) Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 21:37:41 +0530 Subject: FOSDEM In-Reply-To: <521BDBE2.2060505@free.fr> References: <1347398791.74452360.1377524656179.JavaMail.root@zimbra63-e11.priv.proxad.net> <521BDB66.4090709@f123.org> <521BDBE2.2060505@free.fr> Message-ID: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 4:21 AM, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote: > Le 27/08/2013 00:49, Fernando Botelho a écrit : >> >> Is there funding available for travel costs? >> >> Fernando >> >> >> On 08/26/2013 10:44 AM, mengualjeanphi at free.fr wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Interested to do a devroom at fosdem? To meet each other and discuss new >>> accessibility issues related to GUI, braille and other general issues? Could >>> you be present, on February, 1st and 2nd? If interested, I can submit a >>> devroom to FOSDEM so that we cas discuss between users and devs about >>> accessibility today and in the future. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Jean-Philippe MENGUAL >>> yes there's funding. See fosdem 2014 website. > > I'll answer to B. too. In a few hours. :) > > Regards, > I just proposed a talk on Language and platform independent speech recognition as a response for CFP. Would really like to have a devroom for accessibility and will be interested to be there at next years event. Regards, From mengualjeanphi at free.fr Wed Sep 11 11:38:46 2013 From: mengualjeanphi at free.fr (mengualjeanphi at free.fr) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 13:38:46 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Libreoffice in Ubuntu 12.04 Message-ID: <214165080.139806036.1378899526202.JavaMail.root@zimbra63-e11.priv.proxad.net> Hi, I am trying to access to the help of Libreoffice from my Ubuntu 12.04 system. For that, I do F1. Then, I select the "Contents" page with arrow keys. Next, still with arrow keys in the tree, I choose "text document", "creating a text document" "browse and select". Then, I do enter. On a Windows system, it seems the contents appears on the right part of the window and that it is possible to take off the focus there with tab and/or f6. I do not have this here. COuld someone test? I have two questions: 1. is the content displayed indeed on the screen (I cannot check myself)? and 2. how can I put there the focus and read it with Orca? Thanks for your help Regards From pvdeejay at gmail.com Wed Sep 11 14:30:16 2013 From: pvdeejay at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Peter_V=E1gner?=) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 16:30:16 +0200 Subject: Libreoffice in Ubuntu 12.04 In-Reply-To: <214165080.139806036.1378899526202.JavaMail.root@zimbra63-e11.priv.proxad.net> References: <214165080.139806036.1378899526202.JavaMail.root@zimbra63-e11.priv.proxad.net> Message-ID: <52307E78.1030707@gmail.com> Hello, I think it is a good idea to go to the tools -> settings... then inside the accessibility treeview branch there is a checkbox saying something like enable cursor inside read only documents. This makes help documents to be readable with orca but still I am unable to figure out how I can move from the content treeview to the actual document being opened. I can find and click it using flat review though. Greetings Peter On 11.09.2013 13:38, mengualjeanphi at free.fr wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying to access to the help of Libreoffice from my Ubuntu 12.04 system. For that, I do F1. Then, I select the "Contents" page with arrow keys. Next, still with arrow keys in the tree, I choose "text document", "creating a text document" "browse and select". > > Then, I do enter. On a Windows system, it seems the contents appears on the right part of the window and that it is possible to take off the focus there with tab and/or f6. I do not have this here. COuld someone test? I have two questions: 1. is the content displayed indeed on the screen (I cannot check myself)? and 2. how can I put there the focus and read it with Orca? > > Thanks for your help > > Regards > From krmane at gmail.com Wed Sep 11 17:11:11 2013 From: krmane at gmail.com (Krishnakant Mane) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 22:41:11 +0530 Subject: Libreoffice in Ubuntu 12.04 In-Reply-To: <52307E78.1030707@gmail.com> References: <214165080.139806036.1378899526202.JavaMail.root@zimbra63-e11.priv.proxad.net> <52307E78.1030707@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5230A42F.1010208@gmail.com> I had the same curiosity for long time. I would like to read the documentation, specially for spreadsheet. happy hacking. Krishnakant. On 09/11/2013 08:00 PM, Peter Vágner wrote: > Hello, > I think it is a good idea to go to the tools -> settings... then > inside the accessibility treeview branch there is a checkbox saying > something like enable cursor inside read only documents. > This makes help documents to be readable with orca but still I am > unable to figure out how I can move from the content treeview to the > actual document being opened. I can find and click it using flat > review though. > > Greetings > > Peter > > On 11.09.2013 13:38, mengualjeanphi at free.fr wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I am trying to access to the help of Libreoffice from my Ubuntu 12.04 >> system. For that, I do F1. Then, I select the "Contents" page with >> arrow keys. Next, still with arrow keys in the tree, I choose "text >> document", "creating a text document" "browse and select". >> >> Then, I do enter. On a Windows system, it seems the contents appears >> on the right part of the window and that it is possible to take off >> the focus there with tab and/or f6. I do not have this here. COuld >> someone test? I have two questions: 1. is the content displayed >> indeed on the screen (I cannot check myself)? and 2. how can I put >> there the focus and read it with Orca? >> >> Thanks for your help >> >> Regards >> > > From mengualjeanphi at free.fr Wed Sep 11 19:35:47 2013 From: mengualjeanphi at free.fr (MENGUAL Jean-Philippe) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 21:35:47 +0200 Subject: Statusbar in Nautilus and Ubuntu 12.04 Message-ID: <5230C613.1050801@free.fr> Hi, Is that normal I'm unable to read any statusbar in Nautilus? even when I check the checkbox in Display menu. I don't see it with global review, and orca doesn't read it with orca-kp_Enter. An idea? Is that inaccessible? Are there useful info inside? Regards, -- Jean-Philippe MENGUAL accelibreinfo, votre partenaire en informatique adaptée aux déficients visuels Mail: texou at accelibreinfo.eu Site Web: http://www.accelibreinfo.eu -- Jean-Philippe MENGUAL accelibreinfo, votre partenaire en informatique adaptée aux déficients visuels Mail: texou at accelibreinfo.eu Site Web: http://www.accelibreinfo.eu From pvdeejay at gmail.com Wed Sep 11 20:04:21 2013 From: pvdeejay at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Peter_V=E1gner?=) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 22:04:21 +0200 Subject: Libreoffice in Ubuntu 12.04 In-Reply-To: <5230A42F.1010208@gmail.com> References: <214165080.139806036.1378899526202.JavaMail.root@zimbra63-e11.priv.proxad.net> <52307E78.1030707@gmail.com> <5230A42F.1010208@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5230CCC5.4020708@gmail.com> Hello, Another way on how to read libreoffice help is by reading it online at: https://help.libreoffice.org/ For example this page is verry interesting for me: https://help.libreoffice.org/Writer/Shortcut_Keys_for_Writer Greetings Peter On 11.09.2013 19:11, Krishnakant Mane wrote: > I had the same curiosity for long time. > I would like to read the documentation, specially for spreadsheet. > happy hacking. > Krishnakant. > > On 09/11/2013 08:00 PM, Peter Vágner wrote: >> Hello, >> I think it is a good idea to go to the tools -> settings... then >> inside the accessibility treeview branch there is a checkbox saying >> something like enable cursor inside read only documents. >> This makes help documents to be readable with orca but still I am >> unable to figure out how I can move from the content treeview to the >> actual document being opened. I can find and click it using flat >> review though. >> >> Greetings >> >> Peter >> >> On 11.09.2013 13:38, mengualjeanphi at free.fr wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I am trying to access to the help of Libreoffice from my Ubuntu >>> 12.04 system. For that, I do F1. Then, I select the "Contents" page >>> with arrow keys. Next, still with arrow keys in the tree, I choose >>> "text document", "creating a text document" "browse and select". >>> >>> Then, I do enter. On a Windows system, it seems the contents appears >>> on the right part of the window and that it is possible to take off >>> the focus there with tab and/or f6. I do not have this here. COuld >>> someone test? I have two questions: 1. is the content displayed >>> indeed on the screen (I cannot check myself)? and 2. how can I put >>> there the focus and read it with Orca? >>> >>> Thanks for your help >>> >>> Regards >>> >> >> > From mengualjeanphi at free.fr Wed Sep 11 06:41:32 2013 From: mengualjeanphi at free.fr (MENGUAL Jean-Philippe) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 08:41:32 +0200 Subject: Statusbar in Nautilus and Ubuntu 12.04 Message-ID: <5230109C.9070601@free.fr> Hi, Is that normal I'm unable to read any statusbar in Nautilus? even when I check the checkbox in Display menu. I don't see it with global review, and orca doesn't read it with orca-kp_Enter. An idea? Is that inaccessible? Are there useful info inside? Regards, -- Jean-Philippe MENGUAL accelibreinfo, votre partenaire en informatique adaptée aux déficients visuels Mail: texou at accelibreinfo.eu Site Web: http://www.accelibreinfo.eu -- Jean-Philippe MENGUAL accelibreinfo, votre partenaire en informatique adaptée aux déficients visuels Mail: texou at accelibreinfo.eu Site Web: http://www.accelibreinfo.eu From texou at accelibreinfo.eu Wed Sep 11 06:39:03 2013 From: texou at accelibreinfo.eu (MENGUAL Jean-Philippe) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 08:39:03 +0200 Subject: Statusbar in Nautilus Message-ID: <52301007.2010508@accelibreinfo.eu> Hi, Is that normal I'm unable to read any statusbar in Nautilus? even when I check the checkbox in Display menu. I don't see it with global review, and orca doesn't read it with orca-kp_Enter. An idea? Is that inaccessible? Are there useful info inside? Regards, -- Jean-Philippe MENGUAL accelibreinfo, votre partenaire en informatique adaptée aux déficients visuels Mail: texou at accelibreinfo.eu Site Web: http://www.accelibreinfo.eu From mengualjeanphi at free.fr Thu Sep 12 19:05:54 2013 From: mengualjeanphi at free.fr (MENGUAL Jean-Philippe) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 21:05:54 +0200 Subject: Libreoffice in Ubuntu 12.04 In-Reply-To: <5230CCC5.4020708@gmail.com> References: <214165080.139806036.1378899526202.JavaMail.root@zimbra63-e11.priv.proxad.net> <52307E78.1030707@gmail.com> <5230A42F.1010208@gmail.com> <5230CCC5.4020708@gmail.com> Message-ID: <52321092.1010602@free.fr> Hi, Thanks for your answer. I checked the checkbox you mentioned. But it didn't change the behavior in the help. I nearly wonder if the text is displayed, actually. Does someone have success with this process? or isn't it accessible, simply? Thanks for your help, Sincerely, Le 11/09/2013 22:04, Peter Vágner a écrit : > Hello, > Another way on how to read libreoffice help is by reading it online at: > https://help.libreoffice.org/ > > For example this page is verry interesting for me: > https://help.libreoffice.org/Writer/Shortcut_Keys_for_Writer > > Greetings > > Peter > > On 11.09.2013 19:11, Krishnakant Mane wrote: >> I had the same curiosity for long time. >> I would like to read the documentation, specially for spreadsheet. >> happy hacking. >> Krishnakant. >> >> On 09/11/2013 08:00 PM, Peter Vágner wrote: >>> Hello, >>> I think it is a good idea to go to the tools -> settings... then >>> inside the accessibility treeview branch there is a checkbox saying >>> something like enable cursor inside read only documents. >>> This makes help documents to be readable with orca but still I am >>> unable to figure out how I can move from the content treeview to the >>> actual document being opened. I can find and click it using flat >>> review though. >>> >>> Greetings >>> >>> Peter >>> >>> On 11.09.2013 13:38, mengualjeanphi at free.fr wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I am trying to access to the help of Libreoffice from my Ubuntu >>>> 12.04 system. For that, I do F1. Then, I select the "Contents" page >>>> with arrow keys. Next, still with arrow keys in the tree, I choose >>>> "text document", "creating a text document" "browse and select". >>>> >>>> Then, I do enter. On a Windows system, it seems the contents >>>> appears on the right part of the window and that it is possible to >>>> take off the focus there with tab and/or f6. I do not have this >>>> here. COuld someone test? I have two questions: 1. is the content >>>> displayed indeed on the screen (I cannot check myself)? and 2. how >>>> can I put there the focus and read it with Orca? >>>> >>>> Thanks for your help >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>> >>> >> > > -- Jean-Philippe MENGUAL accelibreinfo, votre partenaire en informatique adaptée aux déficients visuels Mail: texou at accelibreinfo.eu Site Web: http://www.accelibreinfo.eu From milton at tomaatnet.nl Mon Sep 23 05:17:22 2013 From: milton at tomaatnet.nl (Milton) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 07:17:22 +0200 Subject: help with magnification in 12.04 Message-ID: <523FCEE2.8000200@tomaatnet.nl> Hello List, I use ubuntu 12.04 with Orca 3.4.2 in unity 2D and also installed the fallback session. So I also can work with GNOME without effects. I only work with speech. For a couple of friends who wants to try Ubuntu with magnification I need your help. In the keyboard preferences on the tab short cut keys I set: 1. Alt_Control_M to toggle magnification on or off; 2. Alt_arrow-up for zoom in; 3. Alt_arrow-down for zoom out. But there is no result by pressing those shortcut keys. What should I do to have magnification work? Many thanks. Milton From rkcole72984 at gmail.com Mon Sep 23 16:02:46 2013 From: rkcole72984 at gmail.com (Robert Cole) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 09:02:46 -0700 Subject: help with magnification in 12.04 In-Reply-To: <523FCEE2.8000200@tomaatnet.nl> References: <523FCEE2.8000200@tomaatnet.nl> Message-ID: <52406626.2000104@gmail.com> Hello, Milton. Unfortunately,, the GNOME Shell Magnifier is not available in the GNOME Fallback session. I have heard that it may be possible to use the Compiz eZoom plug-in with the Fallback session, but I have not tried it out myself to verify it. In order to use the GNOME Shell Magnifier, you must be logged into GNOME Shell. Additionally, I think that GNOME 3.4 si what ships with Ubuntu 12.04. I may be incorrect about this. If any of your friends prefer inverse magnifications (i.e. causing a negative effect in which things like black text on a white background would be displayed as white text on a black background) you would need GNOME 3.6 or later. And as of GNOME 3.10 which I believe is supposed to ship next month), the magnifier will also have cursor tracking. I hope that this information is helpful to you in some way. Take care. On 09/22/2013 10:17 PM, Milton wrote: > Hello List, > I use ubuntu 12.04 with Orca 3.4.2 in unity 2D and also installed the > fallback session. So I also can work with GNOME without effects. I > only work with speech. > For a couple of friends who wants to try Ubuntu with magnification I > need your help. > In the keyboard preferences on the tab short cut keys I set: > 1. Alt_Control_M to toggle magnification on or off; > 2. Alt_arrow-up for zoom in; > 3. Alt_arrow-down for zoom out. > But there is no result by pressing those shortcut keys. > What should I do to have magnification work? > Many thanks. > Milton > From mengualjeanphi at free.fr Wed Sep 25 09:01:50 2013 From: mengualjeanphi at free.fr (MENGUAL Jean-Philippe) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 11:01:50 +0200 Subject: What about newest Ubuntu Message-ID: <5242A67E.2030906@free.fr> Hi, I've just tested ubuntu 13.04, but by default it doesn't seem accessible. Can you tell me if I'm wrong? If yes, can you tell me if some process enables more accessibility unattended? And what about for 13.10? Can I say today ubuntu 12.4 is the most accessible? Thanks for your info. Regards, -- Jean-Philippe MENGUAL accelibreinfo, votre partenaire en informatique adaptée aux déficients visuels Mail: texou at accelibreinfo.eu Site Web: http://www.accelibreinfo.eu From eric.oyen at gmail.com Sat Sep 28 00:49:17 2013 From: eric.oyen at gmail.com (eric oyen) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 17:49:17 -0700 Subject: Linux on a Braille Sense U2? Message-ID: <86493FE4-7D4D-4D42-A048-7CBFBBE45A8D@gmail.com> I already proposed this on the HIMS Notetakers list. I was thinking of trying to compile a version of linux with braille and speech support that would run on a Braille Sense U2. This along with a GTK based desktop environment and ORCA would certainly add to the power of this device. I would like to make it bootable from either an external flash disk (SD Card) or a USB stick. Thoughts anyone? -eric