From kd7cyu at gmail.com Wed Aug 5 16:42:12 2015 From: kd7cyu at gmail.com (Tom Masterson) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 09:42:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Libreoffice question Message-ID: This may be slightly off topic but... When ever I bring up a .docx file in libreoffice if I try to save that document as a docx again it looses a lot of content. I brought up a document today that was 513k before I opened it, did nothing to it, saved it again, and it was 16k. I am using Ubuntu 14.04.3 lts. Has anyone else seen this behavior and do you know of a solution? Thanks Tom From clcaul at live.com Tue Aug 18 13:52:27 2015 From: clcaul at live.com (Cleverson Casarin Uliana) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 10:52:27 -0300 Subject: State of 14.04 LTS Message-ID: Dear all, I'd like to know how is Ubuntu Desktop 14.04 the LTS regarding accessibility for the blind and also its performance and stability as a whole. Does Orca works well, and how about speakup for the console? Also is there any issues with non-english languages such as Brazilian Portuguese? Does anyone know if Voxin works well under it? Finally, is Orca relatively up to date regarding new features? Thank you, Cleverson From kd7cyu at gmail.com Tue Aug 18 16:07:39 2015 From: kd7cyu at gmail.com (Tom Masterson) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 09:07:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Firefox Message-ID: Hi I am using Ubuntu 14.04 and just updted firefox a couple late last week. When I try to run it now I get some form of crash report that I can't read and if I look at a console it is thrwing multiple disk read errors. I have run fsck and it tells me my disk is fine. Any ideas on how I can find the real problem or how to resolve this one? Thanks Tom From burt1iband at gmail.com Tue Aug 18 19:57:55 2015 From: burt1iband at gmail.com (B. Henry) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 14:57:55 -0500 Subject: State of 14.04 LTS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20150818195749.GO28827@gmail.com> It is generally quite good and stable now, some things work that did notin 12.04, language support for instance was silent in precise, now it works well with orca. Overall there is a slight difference in the feel, it's a very different unity under the hood, but most key bindings are the same. You'll have to manually start speechd-up with sudo from your GUI to get speakup to talk, and it probably will not on console log-on screen, but once logged in speakup is as solid as ever. I usually make a script to kill off running speechd-up and then start it as mentioned with sudo and run this when the desktop starts. I've not run stock trusty in some time, but have vinux5 nightly builds running on a laptop so maybe you don't have to kill off speechd-up, and actually I can't remember if you have to install it or not on vaniula trusty. Orca has made great strides with firefox since versions that worked with precise, and now I think firefox support is up there with good windows screenreaders. Orca have been very stable with Ubuntu lts 12.04 and 14.04, so I would not wait to upgrade if you are running older Ubuntu. Vinux5 based on 14.04 should be out soon, and it will be still nicer for screen reader users and will offer a choice of desktops, unity, gnome and mate, or you could try ubuntu-gnome or mate if Unity is not your cup of tea or you find it taxing a slower computer with limited ram. Evince is now usable with orca for many pdfs. -- B.H. Registerd Linux User 521886 Cleverson Casarin Uliana wrote: Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 10:52:27AM -0300 > Dear all, > > I'd like to know how is Ubuntu Desktop 14.04 the LTS regarding accessibility > for the blind and also its performance and stability as a whole. Does Orca > works well, and how about speakup for the console? Also is there any issues > with non-english languages such as Brazilian Portuguese? Does anyone know if > Voxin works well under it? Finally, is Orca relatively up to date regarding > new features? > > Thank you, > Cleverson > > -- > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility From lucasradaelli at gmail.com Wed Aug 19 17:14:10 2015 From: lucasradaelli at gmail.com (Lucas Radaelli) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 14:14:10 -0300 Subject: orca and firefox Message-ID: <55D4B962.1050904@gmail.com> Folks, Just wanted to say that I gave orca and firefox another try and the experience seems to be much better than i was used to! this is awesome. I am running 14.04. Just to make sure that I got the best that is available, could you confirm to me which is the orca version that I should be running and which firefox version? I am also running orca with speech dispatcher + voxin and the experience is very close to what we get on windows with NVDA. From burt1iband at gmail.com Wed Aug 19 17:59:56 2015 From: burt1iband at gmail.com (B. Henry) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 12:59:56 -0500 Subject: orca and firefox In-Reply-To: <55D4B962.1050904@gmail.com> References: <55D4B962.1050904@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20150819175956.GH24285@gmail.com> 16.2 or 16.3 I think it is, but you can build the latest development version if you want to test even newer stuff. There are instructions on the orca website isit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca. The manual is at http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions Once in a while something important does not work well for a few hours or even a day or two, but I've never had to downgrade to an older build for the things I do using orca from git master in well over a year. That being said, as far as your firefox experience at the moment if you have orca 16 you should be doing fine, and I certainly agree that there is a huge difference in orca with firefox comparing current versions with those from a year and a half ago. Enjoy -- B.H. Registerd Linux User 521886 Lucas Radaelli wrote: Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 02:14:10PM -0300 > Folks, > > Just wanted to say that I gave orca and firefox another try and the > experience seems to be much better than i was used to! this is awesome. > > I am running 14.04. > > Just to make sure that I got the best that is available, could you confirm > to me which is the orca version that I should be running and which firefox > version? > > I am also running orca with speech dispatcher + voxin and the experience is > very close to what we get on windows with NVDA. > > > -- > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility From vilmar at informal.com.br Wed Aug 19 19:06:31 2015 From: vilmar at informal.com.br (=?UTF-8?Q?Jos=c3=a9_Vilmar_Est=c3=a1cio_de_Souza?=) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 16:06:31 -0300 Subject: orca and firefox In-Reply-To: <55D4B962.1050904@gmail.com> References: <55D4B962.1050904@gmail.com> Message-ID: <55D4D3B7.3080609@informal.com.br> Hi Lucas. In my opinion 3.16 is better but I am not sure if it is possible to build in ubuntu 14.04. A while back I posted a message in the linux-accessivel list with instructions on how to build orca from git. On 08/19/2015 02:14 PM, Lucas Radaelli wrote: > Folks, > > Just wanted to say that I gave orca and firefox another try and the > experience seems to be much better than i was used to! this is awesome. > > I am running 14.04. > > Just to make sure that I got the best that is available, could you > confirm to me which is the orca version that I should be running and > which firefox version? > > I am also running orca with speech dispatcher + voxin and the > experience is very close to what we get on windows with NVDA. > > -- José Vilmar Estácio de Souza From burt1iband at gmail.com Wed Aug 19 19:09:02 2015 From: burt1iband at gmail.com (B. Henry) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 14:09:02 -0500 Subject: orca and firefox In-Reply-To: <55D4D3B7.3080609@informal.com.br> References: <55D4B962.1050904@gmail.com> <55D4D3B7.3080609@informal.com.br> Message-ID: <20150819190902.GL24285@gmail.com> yes, it will certainly build You might need to get some at-spi packages from an extra repo, let me check on something and I'll post back. -- B.H. Registerd Linux User 521886 José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote: Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 04:06:31PM -0300 > Hi Lucas. > In my opinion 3.16 is better but I am not sure if it is possible to build in > ubuntu 14.04. > > A while back I posted a message in the linux-accessivel list with > instructions on how to build orca from git. > > On 08/19/2015 02:14 PM, Lucas Radaelli wrote: > >Folks, > > > >Just wanted to say that I gave orca and firefox another try and the > >experience seems to be much better than i was used to! this is awesome. > > > >I am running 14.04. > > > >Just to make sure that I got the best that is available, could you confirm > >to me which is the orca version that I should be running and which firefox > >version? > > > >I am also running orca with speech dispatcher + voxin and the experience > >is very close to what we get on windows with NVDA. > > > > > > -- > José Vilmar Estácio de Souza > > > -- > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility From dahunt at posteo.de Wed Aug 19 19:26:15 2015 From: dahunt at posteo.de (Dave Hunt) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 15:26:15 -0400 Subject: orca and firefox In-Reply-To: <55D4D3B7.3080609@informal.com.br> References: <55D4B962.1050904@gmail.com> <55D4D3B7.3080609@informal.com.br> Message-ID: <55D4D857.4020605@posteo.de> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello Trusty and Orca Users! I'm using orca 3.16 in Trisquel, a derivative of Ubuntu 14.04, though I did not build it; rather, I added the Accessibility Devel ppa to my system, and the latest access stack (including orca) got installed on system upgrade. Having done this, I may be able to build from git. to add repository: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:accessibility-devel then: sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade HTH, Dave On 08/19/2015 03:06 PM, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote: > Hi Lucas. In my opinion 3.16 is better but I am not sure if it is > possible to build in ubuntu 14.04. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJV1NhVAAoJEPDWzxLwi2tABToH/2W7AzJw+RDn/bgmFPfsQMhQ aNjz4HMDqq30zlYRkVsNy4v9J6Ry+jqG8j6DG/R2xhRgVYW1DW256DxveAwulLWn de1f6JWdY5OkQHhZCf/g0nbt981Ia+GWf0D5zbWwPBAfpPQZVAS0/xGZ4aBkXNio Hi+kshpiU5MLLOPXQTCjxKQ8DJg55iVisOcYlJ8eAqfr65icJk+lBI7PofczxtZu oypDstSiQi/7ZYVpMIIyjkuJcnS3TEuXXUotPeQzaCGQ2b2G82Tbuih5G/6uf5fS 9xkCDXvRfXHJHlecL6MRY2v17nOHH6ZaOBj7Czy/kr7DXndeIF6gPxaoD2si1bs= =mTul -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From lucasradaelli at gmail.com Wed Aug 19 19:45:03 2015 From: lucasradaelli at gmail.com (Lucas Radaelli) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 16:45:03 -0300 Subject: orca and firefox In-Reply-To: <55D4D3B7.3080609@informal.com.br> References: <55D4B962.1050904@gmail.com> <55D4D3B7.3080609@informal.com.br> Message-ID: <55D4DCBF.9030900@gmail.com> Could you guys confirm the version of speech dispatcher that you are using? Orca stoped talking to me twice in a period of less than a hour and just returned when I killed speech dispatcher and restarted everything. I assume that this is speech dispatcher's fault, as I had the same problem with chromevox when running it with speech dispatcher. On 19/08/2015 16:06, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote: > Hi Lucas. > In my opinion 3.16 is better but I am not sure if it is possible to > build in ubuntu 14.04. > > A while back I posted a message in the linux-accessivel list with > instructions on how to build orca from git. > > On 08/19/2015 02:14 PM, Lucas Radaelli wrote: >> Folks, >> >> Just wanted to say that I gave orca and firefox another try and the >> experience seems to be much better than i was used to! this is awesome. >> >> I am running 14.04. >> >> Just to make sure that I got the best that is available, could you >> confirm to me which is the orca version that I should be running and >> which firefox version? >> >> I am also running orca with speech dispatcher + voxin and the >> experience is very close to what we get on windows with NVDA. >> >> > From vilmar at informal.com.br Wed Aug 19 20:07:17 2015 From: vilmar at informal.com.br (=?UTF-8?Q?Jos=c3=a9_Vilmar_Est=c3=a1cio_de_Souza?=) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 17:07:17 -0300 Subject: orca and firefox In-Reply-To: <55D4DCBF.9030900@gmail.com> References: <55D4B962.1050904@gmail.com> <55D4D3B7.3080609@informal.com.br> <55D4DCBF.9030900@gmail.com> Message-ID: <55D4E1F5.2090402@informal.com.br> Hi. Version 0.8.3 is the current version. I suspect that this problem is related to voxin, although I can not confirm. Can you try to use espeak instead voxin as a test? On 08/19/2015 04:45 PM, Lucas Radaelli wrote: > > Could you guys confirm the version of speech dispatcher that you are > using? > > Orca stoped talking to me twice in a period of less than a hour and > just returned when I killed speech dispatcher and restarted everything. > > I assume that this is speech dispatcher's fault, as I had the same > problem with chromevox when running it with speech dispatcher. > On 19/08/2015 16:06, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote: >> Hi Lucas. >> In my opinion 3.16 is better but I am not sure if it is possible to >> build in ubuntu 14.04. >> >> A while back I posted a message in the linux-accessivel list with >> instructions on how to build orca from git. >> >> On 08/19/2015 02:14 PM, Lucas Radaelli wrote: >>> Folks, >>> >>> Just wanted to say that I gave orca and firefox another try and the >>> experience seems to be much better than i was used to! this is awesome. >>> >>> I am running 14.04. >>> >>> Just to make sure that I got the best that is available, could you >>> confirm to me which is the orca version that I should be running and >>> which firefox version? >>> >>> I am also running orca with speech dispatcher + voxin and the >>> experience is very close to what we get on windows with NVDA. >>> >>> >> > -- José Vilmar Estácio de Souza From krmane at gmail.com Wed Aug 19 21:55:51 2015 From: krmane at gmail.com (kk) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 03:25:51 +0530 Subject: orca and firefox In-Reply-To: <20150819190902.GL24285@gmail.com> References: <55D4B962.1050904@gmail.com> <55D4D3B7.3080609@informal.com.br> <20150819190902.GL24285@gmail.com> Message-ID: <55D4FB67.6070304@gmail.com> Mine is 3.17.3 pre Meaning I have a much later version, built from git source. Happy hacking. Krishnakant. On Thursday 20 August 2015 12:39 AM, B. Henry wrote: > > yes, it will certainly build > > You might need to get some at-spi packages from an extra repo, let me check on something and I'll post back. > From krmane at gmail.com Wed Aug 19 21:58:19 2015 From: krmane at gmail.com (kk) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 03:28:19 +0530 Subject: orca and firefox In-Reply-To: <55D4D857.4020605@posteo.de> References: <55D4B962.1050904@gmail.com> <55D4D3B7.3080609@informal.com.br> <55D4D857.4020605@posteo.de> Message-ID: <55D4FBFB.2050600@gmail.com> Wow, Who maintains this ppa for accessibility devel? happy hacking. Krishnakant. On Thursday 20 August 2015 12:56 AM, Dave Hunt wrote: > sudo add-apt-repository ppa:accessibility-devel From fudge at thefudge.net Wed Aug 19 22:04:39 2015 From: fudge at thefudge.net (Rob Whyte) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 08:04:39 +1000 Subject: orca and firefox In-Reply-To: <55D4E1F5.2090402@informal.com.br> References: <55D4B962.1050904@gmail.com> <55D4D3B7.3080609@informal.com.br> <55D4DCBF.9030900@gmail.com> <55D4E1F5.2090402@informal.com.br> Message-ID: <55D4FD77.1070006@thefudge.net> Hi, yes you will find the crashes are due to Voxin. sudo killall -9 speech-dispatcher will get you along your way quickly. Thanks Rob On 20/08/15 06:07, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote: > Hi. > Version 0.8.3 is the current version. > > I suspect that this problem is related to voxin, although I can not > confirm. > Can you try to use espeak instead voxin as a test? > > On 08/19/2015 04:45 PM, Lucas Radaelli wrote: >> >> Could you guys confirm the version of speech dispatcher that you are >> using? >> >> Orca stoped talking to me twice in a period of less than a hour and >> just returned when I killed speech dispatcher and restarted everything. >> >> I assume that this is speech dispatcher's fault, as I had the same >> problem with chromevox when running it with speech dispatcher. >> On 19/08/2015 16:06, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote: >>> Hi Lucas. >>> In my opinion 3.16 is better but I am not sure if it is possible to >>> build in ubuntu 14.04. >>> >>> A while back I posted a message in the linux-accessivel list with >>> instructions on how to build orca from git. >>> >>> On 08/19/2015 02:14 PM, Lucas Radaelli wrote: >>>> Folks, >>>> >>>> Just wanted to say that I gave orca and firefox another try and the >>>> experience seems to be much better than i was used to! this is >>>> awesome. >>>> >>>> I am running 14.04. >>>> >>>> Just to make sure that I got the best that is available, could you >>>> confirm to me which is the orca version that I should be running >>>> and which firefox version? >>>> >>>> I am also running orca with speech dispatcher + voxin and the >>>> experience is very close to what we get on windows with NVDA. >>>> >>>> >>> >> > From themuso at ubuntu.com Wed Aug 19 22:52:58 2015 From: themuso at ubuntu.com (Luke Yelavich) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 08:52:58 +1000 Subject: orca and firefox In-Reply-To: <55D4B962.1050904@gmail.com> References: <55D4B962.1050904@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20150819225258.GA3716@acapella> On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 03:14:10AM AEST, Lucas Radaelli wrote: > Folks, > > Just wanted to say that I gave orca and firefox another try and the > experience seems to be much better than i was used to! this is awesome. > > I am running 14.04. > > Just to make sure that I got the best that is available, could you confirm > to me which is the orca version that I should be running and which firefox > version? You can install Orca 3.16.2 for 14.04 from the Ubuntu Accessibility Dev PPA, ppa:ubuntu-accessibility-dev/ppa. To add it and update, do the following: * In a terminal, run sudo apt-add-repository ppa:accessibility-dev/ppa * sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade And you should then get latest stable Orca. This will likely be updated once Orca 3.18 comes out. Luke From themuso at ubuntu.com Wed Aug 19 22:54:35 2015 From: themuso at ubuntu.com (Luke Yelavich) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 08:54:35 +1000 Subject: orca and firefox In-Reply-To: <55D4FBFB.2050600@gmail.com> References: <55D4B962.1050904@gmail.com> <55D4D3B7.3080609@informal.com.br> <55D4D857.4020605@posteo.de> <55D4FBFB.2050600@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20150819225435.GB3716@acapella> On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 07:58:19AM AEST, kk wrote: > Wow, > Who maintains this ppa for accessibility devel? I do. Luke From dahunt at posteo.de Wed Aug 19 19:13:47 2015 From: dahunt at posteo.de (Dave Hunt) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 15:13:47 -0400 Subject: orca and firefox In-Reply-To: <55D4D3B7.3080609@informal.com.br> References: <55D4B962.1050904@gmail.com> <55D4D3B7.3080609@informal.com.br> Message-ID: <55D4D56B.80800@posteo.de> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I'm using orca 3.16 in Trisquel, a derivative of Ubuntu 14.04, though I did not build it; rather, I added the Accessibility Devel ppa to my system, and the latest access stack (including orca) got installed on system upgrade. Having done this, I may be able to build from git. to add repository: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:accessibility-devel then: sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade HTH, Dave On 08/19/2015 03:06 PM, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote: > Hi Lucas. In my opinion 3.16 is better but I am not sure if it is > possible to build in ubuntu 14.04. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJV1NVlAAoJEPDWzxLwi2tA6R8H/iP81cl+nTMlbDSkkRYaIurB aS12ZKbEuVRgAaBVxGVbe9UItrFYLyPp+5sSBj3rxP1uMLFGO7eWetTrDBjpDx5/ etz+SDrG9rch//neuDIcy66lj6HaKEYKzWq/n+Kg8PwahQyDfJnoeBHPngoZ2YdR jYR35OosttxK5y3wLcfCFNMnYq4wMQzHdVlHRBwvjK0ftTcWPIsWKX91c6DHPhnY JF/9aIXgh8URpc2RDLG/ZkRUZL/z7Rl/1cGhuQLGg4eFOq3+qD1c+2UeHNjlyZZQ eod0OktN/JH++GN1AB0oU3yF/DlMBbtWgimJj230JyOjW5MknuVz4YbxpWHsFK4= =RyC3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From coffeekingms at gmail.com Wed Aug 19 22:56:22 2015 From: coffeekingms at gmail.com (kendell clark) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 17:56:22 -0500 Subject: orca and firefox In-Reply-To: <55D4B962.1050904@gmail.com> References: <55D4B962.1050904@gmail.com> Message-ID: <55D50996.2040001@gmail.com> hi Any orca version after ... I believe 3.12 is the version that got the gigantic firefox improvements, should work fine. I'd of course recommend you run 3.16.3 which I believe is the latest, but I'm not sure how easy this is to do in ubuntu. There's an accessibility PPA luke, rob and others maintain that has the latest accessibility packages, at-spi, orca, etc but I'm not sure of the command to install it. Thanks Kendell clark On 08/19/2015 12:14 PM, Lucas Radaelli wrote: > Folks, > > Just wanted to say that I gave orca and firefox another try and the > experience seems to be much better than i was used to! this is awesome. > > I am running 14.04. > > Just to make sure that I got the best that is available, could you > confirm to me which is the orca version that I should be running and > which firefox version? > > I am also running orca with speech dispatcher + voxin and the > experience is very close to what we get on windows with NVDA. > > From burt1iband at gmail.com Wed Aug 19 23:04:29 2015 From: burt1iband at gmail.com (B. Henry) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 18:04:29 -0500 Subject: orca and firefox In-Reply-To: <20150819225435.GB3716@acapella> References: <55D4B962.1050904@gmail.com> <55D4D3B7.3080609@informal.com.br> <55D4D857.4020605@posteo.de> <55D4FBFB.2050600@gmail.com> <20150819225435.GB3716@acapella> Message-ID: <20150819230429.GN24285@gmail.com> Yeah, thanks for this important resource Luke. -- B.H. Registerd Linux User 521886 Luke Yelavich wrote: Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 08:54:35AM +1000 > On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 07:58:19AM AEST, kk wrote: > > Wow, > > Who maintains this ppa for accessibility devel? > > I do. > > Luke > > -- > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility From lucasradaelli at gmail.com Thu Aug 20 12:29:40 2015 From: lucasradaelli at gmail.com (Lucas Radaelli) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 09:29:40 -0300 Subject: orca and firefox In-Reply-To: <55D4FD77.1070006@thefudge.net> References: <55D4B962.1050904@gmail.com> <55D4D3B7.3080609@informal.com.br> <55D4DCBF.9030900@gmail.com> <55D4E1F5.2090402@informal.com.br> <55D4FD77.1070006@thefudge.net> Message-ID: <55D5C834.2020406@gmail.com> Is this on voxin side or speech dispatcher communication with voxin? I use emacspeak with voxin and got no errors... I suspect that this is coming from speech dispatcher. Any idea if this bug is tracked somewhere? On 19/08/2015 19:04, Rob Whyte wrote: > Hi, > yes you will find the crashes are due to Voxin. > sudo killall -9 speech-dispatcher will get you along your way quickly. > > Thanks > Rob > > > On 20/08/15 06:07, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote: >> Hi. >> Version 0.8.3 is the current version. >> >> I suspect that this problem is related to voxin, although I can not >> confirm. >> Can you try to use espeak instead voxin as a test? >> >> On 08/19/2015 04:45 PM, Lucas Radaelli wrote: >>> Could you guys confirm the version of speech dispatcher that you are >>> using? >>> >>> Orca stoped talking to me twice in a period of less than a hour and >>> just returned when I killed speech dispatcher and restarted everything. >>> >>> I assume that this is speech dispatcher's fault, as I had the same >>> problem with chromevox when running it with speech dispatcher. >>> On 19/08/2015 16:06, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote: >>>> Hi Lucas. >>>> In my opinion 3.16 is better but I am not sure if it is possible to >>>> build in ubuntu 14.04. >>>> >>>> A while back I posted a message in the linux-accessivel list with >>>> instructions on how to build orca from git. >>>> >>>> On 08/19/2015 02:14 PM, Lucas Radaelli wrote: >>>>> Folks, >>>>> >>>>> Just wanted to say that I gave orca and firefox another try and the >>>>> experience seems to be much better than i was used to! this is >>>>> awesome. >>>>> >>>>> I am running 14.04. >>>>> >>>>> Just to make sure that I got the best that is available, could you >>>>> confirm to me which is the orca version that I should be running >>>>> and which firefox version? >>>>> >>>>> I am also running orca with speech dispatcher + voxin and the >>>>> experience is very close to what we get on windows with NVDA. >>>>> >>>>> > From lucasradaelli at gmail.com Thu Aug 20 12:30:17 2015 From: lucasradaelli at gmail.com (Lucas Radaelli) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 09:30:17 -0300 Subject: orca and firefox In-Reply-To: <20150819225258.GA3716@acapella> References: <55D4B962.1050904@gmail.com> <20150819225258.GA3716@acapella> Message-ID: <55D5C859.9090502@gmail.com> +1 This is awesome, thank you. On 19/08/2015 19:52, Luke Yelavich wrote: > On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 03:14:10AM AEST, Lucas Radaelli wrote: >> Folks, >> >> Just wanted to say that I gave orca and firefox another try and the >> experience seems to be much better than i was used to! this is awesome. >> >> I am running 14.04. >> >> Just to make sure that I got the best that is available, could you confirm >> to me which is the orca version that I should be running and which firefox >> version? > You can install Orca 3.16.2 for 14.04 from the Ubuntu Accessibility Dev PPA, ppa:ubuntu-accessibility-dev/ppa. To add it and update, do the following: > > * In a terminal, run sudo apt-add-repository ppa:accessibility-dev/ppa > * sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade > > And you should then get latest stable Orca. This will likely be updated once Orca 3.18 comes out. > > Luke > From kd7cyu at gmail.com Thu Aug 20 20:53:35 2015 From: kd7cyu at gmail.com (Tom Masterson) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 13:53:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: accessiblity-dev ppa Message-ID: I am running ubuntu 14.04.3 and have upgraded the accessibility to the version in this ppa. I notice that now I have problems runnig a console using strictly brltty. Once unity has come up (or evne the login screen) it will not show me things in a console unless I restart brltty. THis also occurs if I am in a console and something changes on the unity desktop such as the screensaver becoming active. THis was not happening before I upgraded to the ppa versions. A simple example is to shut down the computer, bring it back up and once it gets to the login screen just try a ctrl-alt-f1 to go to the first console. In my case it continues to show the unity login screen. To see teh console I have to login from memory and then restart brltty. Tom From eric.oyen at gmail.com Wed Aug 26 21:52:00 2015 From: eric.oyen at gmail.com (Eric Oyen) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 14:52:00 -0700 Subject: is there a development project for the Braille Sense? Message-ID: hello group. Is there a development project to compile a running version for the braille sense U2? I am trying to find out what ARM chip they are using and a few other specifications. The device currently runs on windows CE 6 (ugh!) and only has a few apps developed for that execution environment. If at all possible, I would like to compile and make a full firmware installation image that would boot up on there and give me a braille supported interface. Any suggestions? -eric From themuso at ubuntu.com Mon Aug 31 00:03:01 2015 From: themuso at ubuntu.com (Luke Yelavich) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 10:03:01 +1000 Subject: is there a development project for the Braille Sense? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20150831000301.GA6781@acapella> On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 07:52:00AM AEST, Eric Oyen wrote: > hello group. > Is there a development project to compile a running version for the braille sense U2? I am trying to find out what ARM chip they are using and a few other specifications. The device currently runs on windows CE 6 (ugh!) and only has a few apps developed for that execution environment. If at all possible, I would like to compile and make a full firmware installation image that would boot up on there and give me a braille supported interface. If the hardware has an Android port, then GNU/Linux would be a possibility. However, if the hardware is only running Windows CE, then its highly likely that it cannot run Ubuntu, since its not likely that the ARM chip supports ARM v7 instructions. Luke From samuel.thibault at ens-lyon.org Mon Aug 31 00:07:36 2015 From: samuel.thibault at ens-lyon.org (Samuel Thibault) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 02:07:36 +0200 Subject: is there a development project for the Braille Sense? In-Reply-To: <20150831000301.GA6781@acapella> References: <20150831000301.GA6781@acapella> Message-ID: <20150831000736.GC3238@var.home> Luke Yelavich, le Mon 31 Aug 2015 10:03:01 +1000, a écrit : > On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 07:52:00AM AEST, Eric Oyen wrote: > > Is there a development project to compile a running version for the braille sense U2? I am trying to find out what ARM chip they are using and a few other specifications. The device currently runs on windows CE 6 (ugh!) and only has a few apps developed for that execution environment. If at all possible, I would like to compile and make a full firmware installation image that would boot up on there and give me a braille supported interface. > > If the hardware has an Android port, then GNU/Linux would be a possibility. However, if the hardware is only running Windows CE, then its highly likely that it cannot run Ubuntu, since its not likely that the ARM chip supports ARM v7 instructions. Other distributions like Debian should however be runnable (armhf arch). Samuel