From burt1iband at gmail.com Wed Jun 8 00:57:08 2016 From: burt1iband at gmail.com (B. Henry) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 19:57:08 -0500 Subject: Ubuntu-mate-16.04: orca won't keep running Message-ID: <20160608005708.GE1596@gmail.com> I just made a bootable usb-stick with the latest ubuntu-mate, 16 .04, on it. Super alt s does not start orca, but either from the run box, or a terminal I can start orca. I hear "screenreader on", and right away, "screenreader off". This behavior occurs 100% of the time for me, tried 3 reboots. Have others had this experience? Thanks in advance for any feedback. -- B.H. Registerd Linux User 521886 From burt1iband at gmail.com Wed Jun 8 23:32:02 2016 From: burt1iband at gmail.com (B. Henry) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 18:32:02 -0500 Subject: Ubuntu-mate-16.04: orca won't keep running In-Reply-To: <20160608005708.GE1596@gmail.com> References: <20160608005708.GE1596@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20160608233202.GC1594@gmail.com> I wrote the image to the pendrive using a different metthod and it does run orca correctly, but there are major accessiblity issues. So far I've not gotten console speech to run at the same time as Orca, and there's no way to see the panel that I've found. I was using speechd-up version from standard repos, starting it from the GUI with sudo speechd-up. I'll try espeeakup next, and see if changing panel configuration lets me get to a panel with orca/report back if I get anywhere. Overall responsiveness is excellent, so hopefully these issues can be sorted out. -- B.H. Registerd Linux User 521886 B. Henry wrote: Tue, Jun 07, 2016 at 07:57:08PM -0500 > I just made a bootable usb-stick with the latest ubuntu-mate, 16 .04, on it. > Super alt s does not start orca, but either from the run box, or a terminal I can start orca. > I hear "screenreader on", and right away, "screenreader off". > This behavior occurs 100% of the time for me, tried 3 reboots. > Have others had this experience? > Thanks in advance for any feedback. > > > -- > B.H. > Registerd Linux User 521886 > From gervin at cableone.net Thu Jun 9 02:21:02 2016 From: gervin at cableone.net (Glenn / Lenny) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 21:21:02 -0500 Subject: GRML and CHNTPW Message-ID: Hi, Does anyone know if CHNTPW comes already installed in GRML? I need to fix someone's Windows from a live CD/DVD with Orca running, and I will be away from WIFI, so I won't be able to download and install it at the time. Thanks. Glenn -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From burt1iband at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 02:42:02 2016 From: burt1iband at gmail.com (B. Henry) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 21:42:02 -0500 Subject: GRML and CHNTPW In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20160609024201.GB24705@gmail.com> They hae a list of installed packages on their website as I recall, and if you have grml you have that list on the .iso you installed from and can of course check with dpkg -l|grep package name Vinux comes with this program on it, honestly do not remember for sure about grml, and they removed a lot of software a couple or more years back. Also, be advised that the util in question does not work on all machines, i.e. it is possible to configure your windows with a better PW implementation it seems. I do not remember details, and there may be a work around for this, but the basic proceedure did not want to wipe the pw so I could start fresh, must less let me change the pw directly. I also suspect that newer windows releases are more secure, but note the word suspect, I am not sure, and far from a windows expert. This is the kind of question that google is better at than a mailing list. Hint, grml.org -features - B.H. Registerd Linux User 521886 Glenn / Lenny wrote: Wed, Jun 08, 2016 at 09:21:02PM -0500 > Hi, > Does anyone know if CHNTPW comes already installed in GRML? > I need to fix someone's Windows from a live CD/DVD with Orca running, and > I will be away from WIFI, so I won't be able to download and install it at > the time. > Thanks. > Glenn > -- > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility From jdashiel at panix.com Thu Jun 9 02:48:42 2016 From: jdashiel at panix.com (Jude DaShiell) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 22:48:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Ubuntu-mate-16.04: orca won't keep running In-Reply-To: <20160608233202.GC1594@gmail.com> References: <20160608005708.GE1596@gmail.com> <20160608233202.GC1594@gmail.com> Message-ID: Please try mate-panel --replace and see if that helps with panel accessibility. I doubt console speech is supposed to run when orca is running unless you have a multi-channel architecture sound card. On Wed, 8 Jun 2016, B. Henry wrote: > Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 19:32:02 > From: B. Henry > To: Ubuntu Accessibility , > orca-list at gnome.org > Subject: Re: Ubuntu-mate-16.04: orca won't keep running > > I wrote the image to the pendrive using a different metthod and it does run orca correctly, but there are major accessiblity issues. > So far I've not gotten console speech to run at the same time as Orca, and there's no way to see the panel that I've found. > I was using speechd-up version from standard repos, starting it from the GUI with sudo speechd-up. > I'll try espeeakup next, and see if changing panel configuration lets me get to a panel with orca/report back if I get anywhere. > Overall responsiveness is excellent, so hopefully these issues can be sorted out. > > > > -- From burt1iband at gmail.com Thu Jun 9 04:44:39 2016 From: burt1iband at gmail.com (B. Henry) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 23:44:39 -0500 Subject: Ubuntu-mate-16.04: orca won't keep running In-Reply-To: References: <20160608005708.GE1596@gmail.com> <20160608233202.GC1594@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20160609044439.GC24705@gmail.com> To update a bit more, just had a few minutes to test some, and console speech is now working for me via speechd-up I was expecting consoles to automatically log-in to the live system, but they require entering ubuntu-mate as user and then an empty pw. I tried that last night, but only a couple or three times, and it only worked when I'd killed my gui accidentally. Tonight It's working fine, so either a reboot was required, or I was typing badly last night/had a diing keyboard, so the latter is likely whether directly my doing or not. Anyway, going to try your suggestion, Jude, and sadly no go here. Again, this is a live system, not a bare metal install. Once installed does f10 or alt f10 open the menu bar? I can open menus with alt f, alt e, etc and then navigate around, and this is actually usually a better way to do things, but after years of using alt, f10, or alt f10 to open menus I am kind of stuck with that muscle memory. I tried opening a document as super user from caja and pluma was silent. Does this persits on an installed system? I've battled this behavior on my custom GUIs, but was hoping mate could deal with this. Thanks. -- B.H. Registerd Linux User 521886 Jude DaShiell wrote: Wed, Jun 08, 2016 at 10:48:42PM -0400 > Please try mate-panel --replace and see if that helps with panel > accessibility. I doubt console speech is supposed to run when orca is > running unless you have a multi-channel architecture sound card. > > On Wed, 8 Jun 2016, B. Henry wrote: > > > Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 19:32:02 > > From: B. Henry > > To: Ubuntu Accessibility , > > orca-list at gnome.org > > Subject: Re: Ubuntu-mate-16.04: orca won't keep running > > > > I wrote the image to the pendrive using a different metthod and it does run orca correctly, but there are major accessiblity issues. > > So far I've not gotten console speech to run at the same time as Orca, and there's no way to see the panel that I've found. > > I was using speechd-up version from standard repos, starting it from the GUI with sudo speechd-up. > > I'll try espeeakup next, and see if changing panel configuration lets me get to a panel with orca/report back if I get anywhere. > > Overall responsiveness is excellent, so hopefully these issues can be sorted out. > > > > > > > > > > -- > From gervin at cableone.net Fri Jun 10 02:22:42 2016 From: gervin at cableone.net (Glenn / Lenny) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2016 21:22:42 -0500 Subject: GRML and CHNTPW Message-ID: <404C803AAC094086AA0132AF18D1DE3D@LennyAcer5720> Hi Burt, Actually, I spent some time with StartPage, (not Google) :), and I did not find my answer, and I did try the GRML page and I saw the link for packages, but I did not find it in there, but it seemed incomplete anyway, so I thought that I wasn't catching all the list. That is why I reached out here. As I had mentioned, I will not be around WIFI when I am working on it, so I may try to download the .DEB package and try installing it, or I may also burn Knoppix, as I think it would be on there. Thanks at any rate. Glenn Message: 3 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 21:42:02 -0500 From: "B. Henry" To: ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: GRML and CHNTPW Message-ID: <20160609024201.GB24705 at gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii They hae a list of installed packages on their website as I recall, and if you have grml you have that list on the .iso you installed from and can of course check with dpkg -l|grep package name Vinux comes with this program on it, honestly do not remember for sure about grml, and they removed a lot of software a couple or more years back. Also, be advised that the util in question does not work on all machines, i.e. it is possible to configure your windows with a better PW implementation it seems. I do not remember details, and there may be a work around for this, but the basic proceedure did not want to wipe the pw so I could start fresh, must less let me change the pw directly. I also suspect that newer windows releases are more secure, but note the word suspect, I am not sure, and far from a windows expert. This is the kind of question that google is better at than a mailing list. Hint, grml.org -features - B.H. Registerd Linux User 521886 Glenn / Lenny wrote: Wed, Jun 08, 2016 at 09:21:02PM -0500 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gervin at cableone.net Sun Jun 26 00:53:16 2016 From: gervin at cableone.net (Glenn / Lenny) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 19:53:16 -0500 Subject: restarting Gnome in 16.04 Message-ID: Hi, I downloaded Ubuntu Gnome 16.04, and I ran Orca and am trying to install Voxin. I must add that this is very slow and unresponsive. I am using an Intel NUC PPYH, with 8 GB of RAM. Also, this is a live version with a persistence file on an 8GB SD card. I am working on fixing the GRUB on the NUC with this live version. Although I got some directory errors with the Voxin 1.00 installation, I am hopeful that it was successful. I don't want to mess with rebooting, because it takes a while to get it to boot to the SD card. So I want to restart Gnome, and I have tried: sudo service lightdm restart and sudo service gdm restart Neither works. I did look on-line and found no further answers. Any more suggestions? Thanks. Glenn -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From doconnor at sonic.net Thu Jun 30 05:24:36 2016 From: doconnor at sonic.net (doconnor at sonic.net) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 08:24:36 +0300 Subject: that's really nice Message-ID: <00007f981e96$54098ddf$aa46bce7$@sonic.net> Hey, Have you seen this before? 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