Ubuntu-mate-16.04: orca won't keep running

[B. Henry]

To update a bit more, just had a few minutes to test some, and console speech is now working for me via speechd-up
I was expecting consoles to automatically log-in to the live system, but they require entering ubuntu-mate as user and then an empty pw.
I tried that last night, but only a couple or three times, and it only worked when I'd killed my gui accidentally. 
Tonight It's working fine, so either a reboot was required, or I was typing badly last night/had a diing keyboard, so the latter is likely whether directly 
my doing or not.
Anyway, going to try your suggestion, Jude, and sadly no go here.
Again, this is a live system, not a bare metal install. 
Once installed does f10 or alt f10 open the menu bar?
I can open menus with alt f, alt e, etc and then navigate around, and this is actually usually a better way to do things, but after years of using alt, 
f10, or alt f10 to open menus I am kind of stuck with that muscle memory.
I tried opening a document as super user from caja and pluma was silent. 
Does this persits on an installed system?
I've battled this behavior on my custom GUIs, but was hoping mate could deal with this.
Thanks.

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     B.H.
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  Jude DaShiell wrote:
Wed, Jun 08, 2016 at 10:48:42PM -0400

> Please try mate-panel --replace and see if that helps with panel
> accessibility.  I doubt console speech is supposed to run when orca is
> running unless you have a multi-channel architecture sound card.
> 
> On Wed, 8 Jun 2016, B. Henry wrote:
> 
> > Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 19:32:02
> > From: B. Henry <burt1iband at gmail.com>
> > To: Ubuntu Accessibility <ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com>,
> >     orca-list at gnome.org
> > Subject: Re: Ubuntu-mate-16.04: orca won't keep running
> > 
> > I wrote the image to the pendrive using a different metthod and it does run orca correctly, but there are major accessiblity issues.
> > So far I've not gotten console speech to run at the same time as Orca, and there's no way to see the panel that I've found.
> > I was using speechd-up version from standard repos, starting it from the GUI with sudo speechd-up.
> > I'll try espeeakup next, and see if changing panel configuration lets me get to a panel with orca/report back if I get anywhere.
> > Overall responsiveness is excellent, so hopefully these issues can be sorted out.
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