From vlcekpavel93 at gmail.com Sun May 1 11:20:52 2016 From: vlcekpavel93 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?UGF2ZWwgVmzEjWVr?=) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 13:20:52 +0200 Subject: Ubuntu gnome and ppas Message-ID: Hi, I am switching to Ubuntu Gnome 16.04, from classic 16.04. I want to use gnome 3 ppa, which updates the Gnome to 3.20, I don't know, if Orca 3.20.1 is included in gnome 3 ppa, but if yes, Do i need the accessibility ppa also included? Thanks, Pavel From vlcekpavel93 at gmail.com Sun May 1 12:23:59 2016 From: vlcekpavel93 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?UGF2ZWwgVmzEjWVr?=) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 14:23:59 +0200 Subject: Reporting ubuntu-gnome accessibility bugs Message-ID: Hi, I downloaded the latest official release of Ubuntu gnome 16.04, but I found a bug. Orca won't start with alt super S and when I use alt plus f2 and write orca, it says screen reader on and after 2 secs screen reader off and I can't launch it. Only with this result. Where can I report this bug? In documentation, here is something about ubuntu-bug, but I can't launch it. Thanks, Pavel From alexarnaud at member.fsf.org Sun May 1 12:58:08 2016 From: alexarnaud at member.fsf.org (Alex ARNAUD) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 14:58:08 +0200 Subject: Reporting ubuntu-gnome accessibility bugs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5725FD60.2070008@member.fsf.org> On 05/01/2016 02:23 PM, Pavel Vlček wrote: > Hi, Hi Pavel. > I downloaded the latest official release of Ubuntu gnome 16.04, but I > found a bug. Orca won't start with alt super S and when I use alt plus > f2 and write orca, it says screen reader on and after 2 secs screen > reader off and I can't launch it. Only with this result. It looks like the the bug #1541292 . > Where can I report this bug? In documentation, here is something about > ubuntu-bug, but I can't launch it. For reporting bug specific to Ubuntu, it's in the bug page of the Orca package on launchpad. Best regards. -- Alex ARNAUD -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alexarnaud at member.fsf.org Sun May 1 13:20:55 2016 From: alexarnaud at member.fsf.org (Alex ARNAUD) Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 15:20:55 +0200 Subject: Ubuntu gnome and ppas In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <572602B7.6080700@member.fsf.org> On 05/01/2016 01:20 PM, Pavel Vlček wrote: > I want to use gnome 3 ppa, which updates the Gnome to 3.20, I don't > know, if Orca 3.20.1 is included in gnome 3 ppa, but if yes, Do i need > the accessibility ppa also included? Dear Pavel, it seems that the Gnome PPA provide for now some 3.18 update and I'm not sure about the migration to Gnome 3.20. The Orca package is maintained by Ubuntu developer whereas Gnome is maintained as I understand by the community team, it's why Gnome-shell is in the universe repository. You need the Accessiblity PPA to obtain Orca update. Best regards. -- Alex ARNAUD From themuso at ubuntu.com Mon May 2 05:31:13 2016 From: themuso at ubuntu.com (Luke Yelavich) Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 15:31:13 +1000 Subject: Ubuntu gnome and ppas In-Reply-To: <572602B7.6080700@member.fsf.org> References: <572602B7.6080700@member.fsf.org> Message-ID: <20160502053112.GA20669@buffalo> On Sun, May 01, 2016 at 11:20:55PM AEST, Alex ARNAUD wrote: > Dear Pavel, it seems that the Gnome PPA provide for now some 3.18 update and > I'm not sure about the migration to Gnome 3.20. Whether the latest GNOME is usable on Ubuntu depends largely on the version of GTK in Ubuntu, and the GNOME 3 PPA. The problem with shipping the latest GTK in the GNOME 3 PPA is that it will break a lot of applications in the archive, mostly theming, but possibly other things too, given that Canonical heavily, and I mean heavily, patches GTK. I think at this point, if you want the best vanilla GNOME experience, you are better off using another distro, Debian being the most likely candidate, since it uses debs, apt-get, etc. Its also a big stretch for me to try and look after the accessibility of Ubuntu proper, and 2 community flavours, given that they all have their own quirks and issues I have to deal with or work around. Luke From milton at tomaatnet.nl Thu May 5 08:41:29 2016 From: milton at tomaatnet.nl (Milton) Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 10:41:29 +0200 Subject: Ubuntu 16.04 with Ubuntu Mate is it possible? Message-ID: <572B0739.903@tomaatnet.nl> Hi List, Is it possible to have Ubuntu Mate in Ubuntu 16.04 such as GNOME Metacity? If yes, how can I do this? I installed GNOME Metacity with: sudo apt-get install gnome-session-flashback and press the session button before login to choose for GNOME Metacity. Thanks. Milton From vlcekpavel93 at gmail.com Thu May 5 13:25:15 2016 From: vlcekpavel93 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?UGF2ZWwgVmzEjWVr?=) Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 15:25:15 +0200 Subject: how to browse apps Message-ID: Hi, is here a way to browse all installed apps? When I want to do this with dash, I can browse three or four apps and orca says filter by and this is the end. Vinux uses some small utility, which shows apps sorted by category. Can be this utility used in Ubuntu? I returned back to 16.04 classic, because Ubuntu has the best hardware compatibility. Thanks, Pavel From milton at tomaatnet.nl Thu May 5 13:30:58 2016 From: milton at tomaatnet.nl (Milton) Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 15:30:58 +0200 Subject: Ubuntu 16.04 with Ubuntu Mate is it possible? In-Reply-To: <572B0739.903@tomaatnet.nl> References: <572B0739.903@tomaatnet.nl> Message-ID: <572B4B12.8010103@tomaatnet.nl> I found an answer to my question. After I followed the instructions on: https://websetnet.com/nl/install-mate-desktop-environment-ubuntu-1604-ubuntu-1510/ I did not notice any changes. So I did: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-mate-core ubuntu-mate-desktop and then I found in the session menu Mate. I login with Mate and have Orca running. I cannot access the applet menubar in the upper right corner of the screen to connect with wifi. I can get to the botom bar with Control+Alt_Escape. Alt+F1 takes me to the upperleft with applications, Location and System. Thanks. Milton Op 05-05-16 om 10:41 schreef Milton: > Hi List, > > Is it possible to have Ubuntu Mate in Ubuntu 16.04 such as GNOME > Metacity? If yes, how can I do this? > I installed GNOME Metacity with: > sudo apt-get install gnome-session-flashback > and press the session button before login to choose for GNOME Metacity. > Thanks. > Milton From jdashiel at panix.com Thu May 5 13:46:27 2016 From: jdashiel at panix.com (Jude DaShiell) Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 09:46:27 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Ubuntu 16.04 with Ubuntu Mate is it possible? In-Reply-To: <572B4B12.8010103@tomaatnet.nl> References: <572B0739.903@tomaatnet.nl> <572B4B12.8010103@tomaatnet.nl> Message-ID: Try control-shift-tab then hit leftarrow a few times and see what happens. On Thu, 5 May 2016, Milton wrote: > Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 09:30:58 > From: Milton > To: "ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com" > > Subject: Re: Ubuntu 16.04 with Ubuntu Mate is it possible? > > I found an answer to my question. After I followed the instructions on: > https://websetnet.com/nl/install-mate-desktop-environment-ubuntu-1604-ubuntu-1510/ > > I did not notice any changes. So I did: > sudo apt-get install ubuntu-mate-core ubuntu-mate-desktop > > and then I found in the session menu Mate. I login with Mate and have Orca > running. I cannot access the applet menubar in the upper right corner of the > screen to connect with wifi. > I can get to the botom bar with Control+Alt_Escape. > Alt+F1 takes me to the upperleft with applications, Location and System. > Thanks. > Milton > > Op 05-05-16 om 10:41 schreef Milton: >> Hi List, >> >> Is it possible to have Ubuntu Mate in Ubuntu 16.04 such as GNOME >> Metacity? If yes, how can I do this? >> I installed GNOME Metacity with: >> sudo apt-get install gnome-session-flashback >> and press the session button before login to choose for GNOME Metacity. >> Thanks. >> Milton > > -- From vlcekpavel93 at gmail.com Thu May 5 14:09:05 2016 From: vlcekpavel93 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?UGF2ZWwgVmzEjWVr?=) Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 16:09:05 +0200 Subject: Linphone Message-ID: Hi, Ubuntu 16.04 has old Linphone 3.6.1 version, but in this version is a bug with appli button in account guide. Are you using this software? I want to compile the 1.9.1 from source, but Ubuntu has older intl-tool, so I get error in ./configure script. Or can you recommend me other accessible voip / sip software? I know Twinkle, but it has accessibility / sound problems on my machine. Thanks, Pavel From milton at tomaatnet.nl Thu May 5 17:40:45 2016 From: milton at tomaatnet.nl (Milton) Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 19:40:45 +0200 Subject: Ubuntu 16.04 with Ubuntu Mate is it possible? In-Reply-To: References: <572B0739.903@tomaatnet.nl> <572B4B12.8010103@tomaatnet.nl> Message-ID: <572B859D.5020607@tomaatnet.nl> I did but Orca says nothing while hitting left arrow. I use a laptop, does it make any sense? Milton Op 05-05-16 om 15:46 schreef Jude DaShiell: > Try control-shift-tab then hit leftarrow a few times and see what happens. > > On Thu, 5 May 2016, Milton wrote: > >> Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 09:30:58 >> From: Milton >> To: "ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com" >> >> Subject: Re: Ubuntu 16.04 with Ubuntu Mate is it possible? >> >> I found an answer to my question. After I followed the instructions on: >> https://websetnet.com/nl/install-mate-desktop-environment-ubuntu-1604-ubuntu-1510/ >> >> >> I did not notice any changes. So I did: >> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-mate-core ubuntu-mate-desktop >> >> and then I found in the session menu Mate. I login with Mate and have >> Orca running. I cannot access the applet menubar in the upper right >> corner of the screen to connect with wifi. >> I can get to the botom bar with Control+Alt_Escape. >> Alt+F1 takes me to the upperleft with applications, Location and System. >> Thanks. >> Milton >> >> Op 05-05-16 om 10:41 schreef Milton: >>> Hi List, >>> >>> Is it possible to have Ubuntu Mate in Ubuntu 16.04 such as GNOME >>> Metacity? If yes, how can I do this? >>> I installed GNOME Metacity with: >>> sudo apt-get install gnome-session-flashback >>> and press the session button before login to choose for GNOME Metacity. >>> Thanks. >>> Milton >> >> > From jdashiel at panix.com Thu May 5 18:54:37 2016 From: jdashiel at panix.com (Jude DaShiell) Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 14:54:37 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Ubuntu 16.04 with Ubuntu Mate is it possible? In-Reply-To: <572B859D.5020607@tomaatnet.nl> References: <572B0739.903@tomaatnet.nl> <572B4B12.8010103@tomaatnet.nl> <572B859D.5020607@tomaatnet.nl> Message-ID: If you did that in a user account you won't have access. This is a root operation. You'll also have to have a graphical user interface up in root for that to work. Another possibility as root in graphical user interface is to hit alt-f1 then downarrow to system then rightarrow into that menu. There should be an admin menu in system so rightarrow into admin then downarrow onto no network is connected then hit enter. You'll get a list of networks Ubuntu found so downarrow to your network then rightarrow onto the add network button and hit enter. You'll get prompted for a password so enter that, then rightarrow onto connect and hit enter. If I remember all of the mapping of ubuntu I shared with you here in this message correctly you should get connected. On Thu, 5 May 2016, Milton wrote: > Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 13:40:45 > From: Milton > To: Jude DaShiell , > "ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com" > > Subject: Re: Ubuntu 16.04 with Ubuntu Mate is it possible? > > I did but Orca says nothing while hitting left arrow. I use a laptop, does it > make any sense? > Milton > > Op 05-05-16 om 15:46 schreef Jude DaShiell: >> Try control-shift-tab then hit leftarrow a few times and see what happens. >> >> On Thu, 5 May 2016, Milton wrote: >> >>> Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 09:30:58 >>> From: Milton >>> To: "ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com" >>> >>> Subject: Re: Ubuntu 16.04 with Ubuntu Mate is it possible? >>> >>> I found an answer to my question. After I followed the instructions on: >>> https://websetnet.com/nl/install-mate-desktop-environment-ubuntu-1604-ubuntu-1510/ >>> >>> >>> I did not notice any changes. So I did: >>> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-mate-core ubuntu-mate-desktop >>> >>> and then I found in the session menu Mate. I login with Mate and have >>> Orca running. I cannot access the applet menubar in the upper right >>> corner of the screen to connect with wifi. >>> I can get to the botom bar with Control+Alt_Escape. >>> Alt+F1 takes me to the upperleft with applications, Location and System. >>> Thanks. >>> Milton >>> >>> Op 05-05-16 om 10:41 schreef Milton: >>>> Hi List, >>>> >>>> Is it possible to have Ubuntu Mate in Ubuntu 16.04 such as GNOME >>>> Metacity? If yes, how can I do this? >>>> I installed GNOME Metacity with: >>>> sudo apt-get install gnome-session-flashback >>>> and press the session button before login to choose for GNOME Metacity. >>>> Thanks. >>>> Milton >>> >>> >> > -- From coffeekingms at gmail.com Thu May 5 21:25:19 2016 From: coffeekingms at gmail.com (kendell clark) Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 16:25:19 -0500 Subject: how to browse apps In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <572BBA3F.5010802@gmail.com> hi If you're in gnome, you can press windows+a. It will open a grid view of your most frequently used apps. At the bottom, there's a "frequent" and an "all" button. That changes the view. If you want to look at all apps, press the "all" button. Keep in mind this only shows graphical apps with desktop icons and such. It doesn't show command line apps and scripts because it has no way to find them. If you're in mate ... the best way would be to just go through the menus. All graphical apps show up in the menus under one of the categories. Thanks Kendell Clark Pavel Vlček wrote: > Hi, > is here a way to browse all installed apps? When I want to do this > with dash, I can browse three or four apps and orca says filter by and > this is the end. > Vinux uses some small utility, which shows apps sorted by category. > Can be this utility used in Ubuntu? I returned back to 16.04 classic, > because Ubuntu has the best hardware compatibility. > Thanks, > Pavel > From burt1iband at gmail.com Thu May 5 21:26:40 2016 From: burt1iband at gmail.com (Burt Henry) Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 16:26:40 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Linphone In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Not to worry, not to compile!. There is a PPA for Ubuntu that has latest or very close to latest linphone. I have used it for quite a while now on more than one distro, and the linphone ppa for at least a year now I think. It has extra codecs as well in it, all the infrastructure you need. I'm not writing this on my Ubuntu/Vinux box, so please google for this, or write me back and I'll look for the source you need to add. Regards -- B. Henry *follow me on Twitter @BurtHenry *connect on *GTalk or *AIM (this address) *Yahoo burt1iband &I'm on *Linkedin & *FaceBook ************************************************************ PVHi, PVUbuntu 16.04 has old Linphone 3.6.1 version, but in this version is a PVbug with appli button in account guide. Are you using this software? I PVwant to compile the 1.9.1 from source, but Ubuntu has older intl-tool, PVso I get error in ./configure script. Or can you recommend me other PVaccessible voip / sip software? I know Twinkle, but it has PVaccessibility / sound problems on my machine. PVThanks, PVPavel PV PV From burt1iband at gmail.com Thu May 5 23:04:57 2016 From: burt1iband at gmail.com (Burt Henry) Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 18:04:57 -0500 (CDT) Subject: how to browse apps In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: check but probably it is in repos for 16.04 classic-menu indicator, maybe indicator comes first indicator-classic-menu, but think it is the other way around. The program I mention is less cluttered and has a couple extras, so write me if you want a link or the package to install as I have not made a .deb yet. -- B. Henry *follow me on Twitter @BurtHenry *connect on *GTalk or *AIM (this address) *Yahoo burt1iband &I'm on *Linkedin & *FaceBook ************************************************************ PVHi, PVis here a way to browse all installed apps? When I want to do this PVwith dash, I can browse three or four apps and orca says filter by and PVthis is the end. PVVinux uses some small utility, which shows apps sorted by category. PVCan be this utility used in Ubuntu? I returned back to 16.04 classic, PVbecause Ubuntu has the best hardware compatibility. PVThanks, PVPavel PV PV From gervin at cableone.net Thu May 5 23:41:49 2016 From: gervin at cableone.net (Glenn / Lenny) Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 18:41:49 -0500 Subject: Ubuntu 16.04 with Ubuntu Mate is it possible? Message-ID: <8EFDCCB6B0E94159913F32F4072A0D8A@LennyAcer5720> I have heard all the suggestions before that you have already gotten, and none of them work in Ubuntu, since version 15. You can go into networks and add a network, but you need to know the SSID and the type of network. I don't know why this has not been fixed to work with Orca. I have installed it on desktops and laptops, and it is the same every time. You just cannot get to a panel where it shows available networks. Glenn -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chaltain at gmail.com Fri May 6 02:58:36 2016 From: chaltain at gmail.com (Christopher Chaltain) Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 21:58:36 -0500 Subject: how to browse apps In-Reply-To: <572BBA3F.5010802@gmail.com> References: <572BBA3F.5010802@gmail.com> Message-ID: <572C085C.1070304@gmail.com> Also, in Unity you can just bring up the Dash with alt+f2 and then down arrow into a grid of all of the applications installed on your system. On 05/05/16 16:25, kendell clark wrote: > hi > If you're in gnome, you can press windows+a. It will open a grid view of > your most frequently used apps. At the bottom, there's a "frequent" and > an "all" button. That changes the view. If you want to look at all apps, > press the "all" button. Keep in mind this only shows graphical apps with > desktop icons and such. It doesn't show command line apps and scripts > because it has no way to find them. If you're in mate ... the best way > would be to just go through the menus. All graphical apps show up in the > menus under one of the categories. > Thanks > Kendell Clark > > > Pavel Vlček wrote: >> Hi, >> is here a way to browse all installed apps? When I want to do this >> with dash, I can browse three or four apps and orca says filter by and >> this is the end. >> Vinux uses some small utility, which shows apps sorted by category. >> Can be this utility used in Ubuntu? I returned back to 16.04 classic, >> because Ubuntu has the best hardware compatibility. >> Thanks, >> Pavel >> > > -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail From milton at tomaatnet.nl Fri May 6 07:07:01 2016 From: milton at tomaatnet.nl (Milton) Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 09:07:01 +0200 Subject: Ubuntu 16.04 with Ubuntu Mate is it possible? In-Reply-To: References: <572B0739.903@tomaatnet.nl> <572B4B12.8010103@tomaatnet.nl> <572B859D.5020607@tomaatnet.nl> Message-ID: <572C4295.5010504@tomaatnet.nl> I cannot find any admin menu. So I let a sighted person help to connect with wifi. Milton Op 05-05-16 om 20:54 schreef Jude DaShiell: > If you did that in a user account you won't have access. This is a root > operation. You'll also have to have a graphical user interface up in > root for that to work. Another possibility as root in graphical user > interface is to hit alt-f1 then downarrow to system then rightarrow into > that menu. There should be an admin menu in system so rightarrow into > admin then downarrow onto no network is connected then hit enter. You'll > get a list of networks Ubuntu found so downarrow to your network then > rightarrow onto the add network button and hit enter. You'll get > prompted for a password so enter that, then rightarrow onto connect and > hit enter. If I remember all of the mapping of ubuntu I shared with you > here in this message correctly you should get connected. > > On Thu, 5 May 2016, Milton wrote: > >> Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 13:40:45 >> From: Milton >> To: Jude DaShiell , >> "ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com" >> >> Subject: Re: Ubuntu 16.04 with Ubuntu Mate is it possible? >> >> I did but Orca says nothing while hitting left arrow. I use a laptop, >> does it make any sense? >> Milton >> >> Op 05-05-16 om 15:46 schreef Jude DaShiell: >>> Try control-shift-tab then hit leftarrow a few times and see what >>> happens. >>> >>> On Thu, 5 May 2016, Milton wrote: >>> >>>> Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 09:30:58 >>>> From: Milton >>>> To: "ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com" >>>> >>>> Subject: Re: Ubuntu 16.04 with Ubuntu Mate is it possible? >>>> >>>> I found an answer to my question. After I followed the instructions on: >>>> https://websetnet.com/nl/install-mate-desktop-environment-ubuntu-1604-ubuntu-1510/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I did not notice any changes. So I did: >>>> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-mate-core ubuntu-mate-desktop >>>> >>>> and then I found in the session menu Mate. I login with Mate and have >>>> Orca running. I cannot access the applet menubar in the upper right >>>> corner of the screen to connect with wifi. >>>> I can get to the botom bar with Control+Alt_Escape. >>>> Alt+F1 takes me to the upperleft with applications, Location and >>>> System. >>>> Thanks. >>>> Milton >>>> >>>> Op 05-05-16 om 10:41 schreef Milton: >>>>> Hi List, >>>>> >>>>> Is it possible to have Ubuntu Mate in Ubuntu 16.04 such as GNOME >>>>> Metacity? If yes, how can I do this? >>>>> I installed GNOME Metacity with: >>>>> sudo apt-get install gnome-session-flashback >>>>> and press the session button before login to choose for GNOME >>>>> Metacity. >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> Milton >>>> >>>> >>> >> > From chaltain at gmail.com Fri May 6 12:18:07 2016 From: chaltain at gmail.com (Christopher Chaltain) Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 07:18:07 -0500 Subject: Ubuntu 16.04 with Ubuntu Mate is it possible? In-Reply-To: <572C4295.5010504@tomaatnet.nl> References: <572B0739.903@tomaatnet.nl> <572B4B12.8010103@tomaatnet.nl> <572B859D.5020607@tomaatnet.nl> <572C4295.5010504@tomaatnet.nl> Message-ID: <572C8B7F.6010002@gmail.com> I haven't been following this thread, so I'm not sure if this will be helpful or not, but use alt+f1 and then left arrow and down arrow to get to the admin and other menus. On 06/05/16 02:07, Milton wrote: > I cannot find any admin menu. So I let a sighted person help to connect > with wifi. > Milton > > Op 05-05-16 om 20:54 schreef Jude DaShiell: >> If you did that in a user account you won't have access. This is a root >> operation. You'll also have to have a graphical user interface up in >> root for that to work. Another possibility as root in graphical user >> interface is to hit alt-f1 then downarrow to system then rightarrow into >> that menu. There should be an admin menu in system so rightarrow into >> admin then downarrow onto no network is connected then hit enter. You'll >> get a list of networks Ubuntu found so downarrow to your network then >> rightarrow onto the add network button and hit enter. You'll get >> prompted for a password so enter that, then rightarrow onto connect and >> hit enter. If I remember all of the mapping of ubuntu I shared with you >> here in this message correctly you should get connected. >> >> On Thu, 5 May 2016, Milton wrote: >> >>> Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 13:40:45 >>> From: Milton >>> To: Jude DaShiell , >>> "ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com" >>> >>> Subject: Re: Ubuntu 16.04 with Ubuntu Mate is it possible? >>> >>> I did but Orca says nothing while hitting left arrow. I use a laptop, >>> does it make any sense? >>> Milton >>> >>> Op 05-05-16 om 15:46 schreef Jude DaShiell: >>>> Try control-shift-tab then hit leftarrow a few times and see what >>>> happens. >>>> >>>> On Thu, 5 May 2016, Milton wrote: >>>> >>>>> Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 09:30:58 >>>>> From: Milton >>>>> To: "ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com" >>>>> >>>>> Subject: Re: Ubuntu 16.04 with Ubuntu Mate is it possible? >>>>> >>>>> I found an answer to my question. After I followed the instructions >>>>> on: >>>>> https://websetnet.com/nl/install-mate-desktop-environment-ubuntu-1604-ubuntu-1510/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I did not notice any changes. So I did: >>>>> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-mate-core ubuntu-mate-desktop >>>>> >>>>> and then I found in the session menu Mate. I login with Mate and have >>>>> Orca running. I cannot access the applet menubar in the upper right >>>>> corner of the screen to connect with wifi. >>>>> I can get to the botom bar with Control+Alt_Escape. >>>>> Alt+F1 takes me to the upperleft with applications, Location and >>>>> System. >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> Milton >>>>> >>>>> Op 05-05-16 om 10:41 schreef Milton: >>>>>> Hi List, >>>>>> >>>>>> Is it possible to have Ubuntu Mate in Ubuntu 16.04 such as GNOME >>>>>> Metacity? If yes, how can I do this? >>>>>> I installed GNOME Metacity with: >>>>>> sudo apt-get install gnome-session-flashback >>>>>> and press the session button before login to choose for GNOME >>>>>> Metacity. >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> Milton >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail From milton at tomaatnet.nl Fri May 6 17:35:48 2016 From: milton at tomaatnet.nl (Milton) Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 19:35:48 +0200 Subject: Ubuntu 16.04 with Ubuntu Mate is it possible? In-Reply-To: <572C8B7F.6010002@gmail.com> References: <572B0739.903@tomaatnet.nl> <572B4B12.8010103@tomaatnet.nl> <572B859D.5020607@tomaatnet.nl> <572C4295.5010504@tomaatnet.nl> <572C8B7F.6010002@gmail.com> Message-ID: <572CD5F4.7030309@tomaatnet.nl> Oh yes it is indeed there. I was looking for another menu because my system is not in English. Milton Op 06-05-16 om 14:18 schreef Christopher Chaltain: > I haven't been following this thread, so I'm not sure if this will be > helpful or not, but use alt+f1 and then left arrow and down arrow to get > to the admin and other menus. > > On 06/05/16 02:07, Milton wrote: >> I cannot find any admin menu. So I let a sighted person help to connect >> with wifi. >> Milton >> >> Op 05-05-16 om 20:54 schreef Jude DaShiell: >>> If you did that in a user account you won't have access. This is a root >>> operation. You'll also have to have a graphical user interface up in >>> root for that to work. Another possibility as root in graphical user >>> interface is to hit alt-f1 then downarrow to system then rightarrow into >>> that menu. There should be an admin menu in system so rightarrow into >>> admin then downarrow onto no network is connected then hit enter. You'll >>> get a list of networks Ubuntu found so downarrow to your network then >>> rightarrow onto the add network button and hit enter. You'll get >>> prompted for a password so enter that, then rightarrow onto connect and >>> hit enter. If I remember all of the mapping of ubuntu I shared with you >>> here in this message correctly you should get connected. >>> >>> On Thu, 5 May 2016, Milton wrote: >>> >>>> Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 13:40:45 >>>> From: Milton >>>> To: Jude DaShiell , >>>> "ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com" >>>> >>>> Subject: Re: Ubuntu 16.04 with Ubuntu Mate is it possible? >>>> >>>> I did but Orca says nothing while hitting left arrow. I use a laptop, >>>> does it make any sense? >>>> Milton >>>> >>>> Op 05-05-16 om 15:46 schreef Jude DaShiell: >>>>> Try control-shift-tab then hit leftarrow a few times and see what >>>>> happens. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, 5 May 2016, Milton wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 09:30:58 >>>>>> From: Milton >>>>>> To: "ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com" >>>>>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: Ubuntu 16.04 with Ubuntu Mate is it possible? >>>>>> >>>>>> I found an answer to my question. After I followed the instructions >>>>>> on: >>>>>> https://websetnet.com/nl/install-mate-desktop-environment-ubuntu-1604-ubuntu-1510/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I did not notice any changes. So I did: >>>>>> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-mate-core ubuntu-mate-desktop >>>>>> >>>>>> and then I found in the session menu Mate. I login with Mate and have >>>>>> Orca running. I cannot access the applet menubar in the upper right >>>>>> corner of the screen to connect with wifi. >>>>>> I can get to the botom bar with Control+Alt_Escape. >>>>>> Alt+F1 takes me to the upperleft with applications, Location and >>>>>> System. >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> Milton >>>>>> >>>>>> Op 05-05-16 om 10:41 schreef Milton: >>>>>>> Hi List, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is it possible to have Ubuntu Mate in Ubuntu 16.04 such as GNOME >>>>>>> Metacity? If yes, how can I do this? >>>>>>> I installed GNOME Metacity with: >>>>>>> sudo apt-get install gnome-session-flashback >>>>>>> and press the session button before login to choose for GNOME >>>>>>> Metacity. >>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>> Milton >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > From gervin at cableone.net Sat May 7 16:31:07 2016 From: gervin at cableone.net (Glenn / Lenny) Date: Sat, 7 May 2016 11:31:07 -0500 Subject: Installing Gnome Message-ID: <556B17A92411456FB6691FB969801046@LennyAcer5720> Hi, I have Ubuntu Mate installed as a dual-boot system and I would prefer Gnome, only because when I have it away from home, it is almost impossible to connect to WIFI, because one cannot access available networks, you have to enter the WIFI info by hand through network from the menus. So I don't know if the way to do it is just: apt-get install gnome-desktop or if there is a better way. I also plan on making it the default desktop, so how to do that would be helpful too. I have used Gnome in years past, but when Mate became the default desktop, and seemed quite accessible with Orca, I went with that the past couple years, but this WIFI thing is a drag. Thanks. Glenn -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From burt1iband at gmail.com Tue May 17 20:58:21 2016 From: burt1iband at gmail.com (B. Henry) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 15:58:21 -0500 Subject: Snap packages, what is the accessibility outlook? Message-ID: <20160517205821.GA28028@gmail.com> First, for those who have not heard of "snappy packages", here's a link that gives a few starter commands and a very brief explanation of what snap is about. http://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-install-snap-packages-on-ubuntu-16-04/?ftag=TRE475558a&bhid=22717637366411097904609173447 As the subject says, I'm of course interested in whether or not any, many or most snap aps are and or will be accessible with orca. My other question is about the long term goals of this packaging system. Is Canonical planning on abandoning .debs eventually? The author in the linked to article says "no messy dependencies...". While most of use have run in to dependency issues at one time or another that made it difficult or impossible to install some piece of software we wanted or needed part of the beauty of Linux for me has always been the efficient use/reuse of libs, backends and utilities keeping our installations relatively small compared with having all stand alone apps that may repeat lots of code over and over again. Is snap intended to always be a supplemental system to be used along side of the .deb packaging system we are more or less familiar with, or are .debs and the whole dependency infrastructure to be phased out? Will there be some packages available in both .debs and snap packages? I have read a couple other articles, and it does appear that spans and .debs will live along side one another in the near term, was asking about plans farther out. Are snaps mostly paid aps, or their free ones, in both senses of free? Thanks for letting me pick your brains folks. -- B.H. Registerd Linux User 521886 From milton at tomaatnet.nl Thu May 19 12:18:23 2016 From: milton at tomaatnet.nl (Milton) Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 14:18:23 +0200 Subject: how to burn data on a cd with Orca Message-ID: <573DAF0F.9040607@tomaatnet.nl> Hi List, I tried in Brasero to burn data on a cd with the help of Orca in Ubuntu 14.04 Orca 3.18.1 I could select files but Orca keeps quiet. Do you know what to do best? Thanks. Milton From eric.oyen at gmail.com Fri May 27 13:35:34 2016 From: eric.oyen at gmail.com (Eric Oyen) Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 06:35:34 -0700 Subject: unetbootn program failure Message-ID: <6CEF57AF-815A-4E75-9A96-2D76E33D0939@gmail.com> hello everyone. would one of the developers please get back to me on this. I tried to run the unetbootin application (as hosted via the ubuntu website) only to have it fail and open the problem reporter. here is the output of that report: Process: unetbootin [6516] Path: /Volumes/VOLUME/unetbootin.app/Contents/MacOS/unetbootin Identifier: com.yourcompany.unetbootin Version: ??? (???) Code Type: X86 (Native) Parent Process: launchd [1389] Date/Time: 2016-05-27 06:30:48.180 -0700 OS Version: Mac OS X 10.7.5 (11G63) Report Version: 9 Interval Since Last Report: 1543069 sec Crashes Since Last Report: 3 Per-App Interval Since Last Report: 2 sec Per-App Crashes Since Last Report: 1 Anonymous UUID: 415A1D4E-A9A9-426A-9346-FE1A74397341 Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGBUS) Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x0000000000000000 VM Regions Near 0: --> __PAGEZERO 0000000000000000-0000000000001000 [ 4K] ---/--- SM=NUL /Volumes/VOLUME/unetbootin.app/Contents/MacOS/unetbootin __TEXT 0000000000001000-00000000001b6000 [ 1748K] r-x/rwx SM=COW /Volumes/VOLUME/unetbootin.app/Contents/MacOS/unetbootin Application Specific Information: objc[6516]: garbage collection is OFF Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread 0 ??? 0000000000 0 + 0 1 QtGui 0x002bcce3 qfontForThemeFont(unsigned short) + 51 2 QtGui 0x001cc4c1 qt_mac_update_os_settings() + 2321 3 QtGui 0x001cebc8 qt_init(QApplicationPrivate*, int) + 2072 4 QtGui 0x002422e1 QApplicationPrivate::construct() + 225 5 QtGui 0x00242626 QApplication::QApplication(int&, char**, bool, int) + 102 6 QtGui 0x00242692 QApplication::QApplication(int&, char**, bool, int) + 50 7 com.yourcompany.unetbootin 0x000057ca main + 74 8 com.yourcompany.unetbootin 0x0000337d _start + 212 9 com.yourcompany.unetbootin 0x000032a8 start + 40 Thread 1:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.libdispatch-manager 0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x90ca490a kevent + 10 1 libdispatch.dylib 0x9b0c9e04 _dispatch_mgr_invoke + 969 2 libdispatch.dylib 0x9b0c8853 _dispatch_mgr_thread + 53 Thread 2: 0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x90ca402e __workq_kernreturn + 10 1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x923feccf _pthread_wqthread + 773 2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x924006fe start_wqthread + 30 Thread 3: 0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x90ca402e __workq_kernreturn + 10 1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x923feccf _pthread_wqthread + 773 2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x924006fe start_wqthread + 30 Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit): eax: 0x00000009 ebx: 0x002bccbe ecx: 0x9a0d430c edx: 0x00000016 edi: 0xbffff140 esi: 0x001cbbc1 ebp: 0xbfffefa8 esp: 0xbfffef5c ss: 0x0000001f efl: 0x00010282 eip: 0x00000000 cs: 0x00000017 ds: 0x0000001f es: 0x0000001f fs: 0x00000000 gs: 0x00000037 cr2: 0x00000000 Logical CPU: 1 Binary Images: 0x1000 - 0x1b5ff3 +com.yourcompany.unetbootin (??? 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Message-ID: <2DCD714C-E1DA-4B72-A85F-22A9FEE4C40D@gmail.com> hello group, does anyone happen to know if there is a project to make an accessible EFI? I recently had to have some work done on a laptop and the EFI was something I could not work in. The person helping me out thought it looked a bit like an abbreviated linux shell. anyone have any ideas? Also, does anyone happen to know what programming environment is used to compile a working EFI image? thanks, -eric From samuel.thibault at ens-lyon.org Sat May 28 08:23:57 2016 From: samuel.thibault at ens-lyon.org (Samuel Thibault) Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 10:23:57 +0200 Subject: accessible EFI? In-Reply-To: <2DCD714C-E1DA-4B72-A85F-22A9FEE4C40D@gmail.com> References: <2DCD714C-E1DA-4B72-A85F-22A9FEE4C40D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20160528082357.GC3168@var.home> Hello, Eric Oyen, on Fri 27 May 2016 22:30:41 -0700, wrote: > does anyone happen to know if there is a project to make an accessible EFI? I had discussed about it with an Intel tiano core developer, he said that technically it's very possible, as an EFI module. It "just" needs people working on it... > Also, does anyone happen to know what programming environment is used to compile a working EFI image? Well, an assembler and a C compiler I guess :) Samuel From themuso at ubuntu.com Sun May 29 23:04:34 2016 From: themuso at ubuntu.com (Luke Yelavich) Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 09:04:34 +1000 Subject: Snap packages, what is the accessibility outlook? In-Reply-To: <20160517205821.GA28028@gmail.com> References: <20160517205821.GA28028@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20160529230433.GA2904@buffalo> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 06:58:21AM AEST, B. Henry wrote: > As the subject says, I'm of course interested in whether or not any, many or most snap aps are and or will be accessible with orca. For the most part, packaging has nothing to do with accessibility. Everything running in containers is another matter, however its just a matter of ensuring that the accessibility bus is accessible and available to contained applications. As for the rest of your mail, I have no idea. Luke