From vlcekpavel93 at gmail.com Fri Jan 6 15:49:35 2017 From: vlcekpavel93 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Pavel_Vl=c4=8dek?=) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2017 16:49:35 +0100 Subject: Budgie desktop accessibility Message-ID: <1a56c239-bda5-c284-e742-bc7dd9bcc074@gmail.com> Hi, when I go to cdimage.ubuntu.com, I can see daily builds for Ubuntu Budgie. Is the Budgie desktop accessible? It can be an interesting desktop. Pavel From themuso at ubuntu.com Mon Jan 9 03:22:33 2017 From: themuso at ubuntu.com (Luke Yelavich) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2017 14:22:33 +1100 Subject: Budgie desktop accessibility In-Reply-To: <1a56c239-bda5-c284-e742-bc7dd9bcc074@gmail.com> References: <1a56c239-bda5-c284-e742-bc7dd9bcc074@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20170108232858.mzdor6wqccrvgn5d@buffalo> On Sat, Jan 07, 2017 at 02:49:35AM AEDT, Pavel Vlček wrote: > Hi, > > when I go to cdimage.ubuntu.com, I can see daily builds for Ubuntu Budgie. > Is the Budgie desktop accessible? It can be an interesting desktop. No idea, and I suspect not, as nobody has looked into making sure accessibility services run under that desktop so far as I know. Luke From pvdeejay at gmail.com Tue Jan 10 10:51:46 2017 From: pvdeejay at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Peter_V=c3=a1gner?=) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 11:51:46 +0100 Subject: Budgie desktop accessibility In-Reply-To: <20170108232858.mzdor6wqccrvgn5d@buffalo> References: <1a56c239-bda5-c284-e742-bc7dd9bcc074@gmail.com> <20170108232858.mzdor6wqccrvgn5d@buffalo> Message-ID: Hello, As I've just discovered budgie desktop uses GNOME technologies such as GObject, GTK, GIO, gnome-bluetooth, pulseaudio and more. It would be nice to get an idea whether accessibility is on their road map given they are in a phase trying to clean and modularize the component dependencies. Does anyone know more? Greetings Peter On 09.01.2017 at 04:22 Luke Yelavich wrote: > On Sat, Jan 07, 2017 at 02:49:35AM AEDT, Pavel Vlček wrote: >> Hi, >> >> when I go to cdimage.ubuntu.com, I can see daily builds for Ubuntu Budgie. >> Is the Budgie desktop accessible? It can be an interesting desktop. > No idea, and I suspect not, as nobody has looked into making sure accessibility services run under that desktop so far as I know. > > Luke > From alan.pope at canonical.com Tue Jan 10 22:11:42 2017 From: alan.pope at canonical.com (Alan Pope) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 22:11:42 +0000 Subject: Budgie desktop accessibility In-Reply-To: References: <1a56c239-bda5-c284-e742-bc7dd9bcc074@gmail.com> <20170108232858.mzdor6wqccrvgn5d@buffalo> Message-ID: Hi, I asked Ikey Doherty to comment on this, as he is the upstream for Budgie, and lead developer / creator of Solus. On 10 January 2017 at 10:51, Peter Vágner wrote: > As I've just discovered budgie desktop uses GNOME technologies such as > GObject, GTK, GIO, gnome-bluetooth, pulseaudio and more. > > It would be nice to get an idea whether accessibility is on their road map > given they are in a phase trying to clean and modularize the component > dependencies. > "partial support. screen readers don't play well with budgie menu." "We're aware of the current limitations in Budgie's a11y support, broken by the GtkPopover system currently in place. It's a public goal on our roadmap for Budgie 11: https://github.com/budgie-desktop/info/blob/master/NEXT_NOTES.md" Hope that helps, -- Alan Pope Community Manager Canonical - Ubuntu Engineering and Services +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.pope at canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ From fudge at thefudge.net Wed Jan 18 10:36:15 2017 From: fudge at thefudge.net (Rob Whyte) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 21:36:15 +1100 Subject: Vinux 5.1 released Message-ID: <22a7335f-6169-3d6f-e96b-98bb564f7eb9@thefudge.net> The Vinux team is pleased to announce the availability of the Vinux 5.1 desktop image. This release features not just the Unity Desktop, but Gnome-shell and the ever popular Gnome 2 fork called Mate, though we primarily will support Unity only. Remember we recommend that when possible users perform updates on a regular basis. This will enable the Vinux team to update packages, and introduce new features. Vinux 5.1 is based upon Ubuntu Trusty Tahr 14.0.4.5 LTS. Some of the highlights in Vinux 5.1 Up to date accessibility infrastructure. Gnome-ORca 3.20 with updates available for 3.22 AT-SPI 2.20 with updates available for 2.22 Brltty 5.4 Speech-dispatcher 0.8.5 Liblouis 2.6.2 Known bugs We are unable to include the Vinux 4.0 console speech changes due to Vinux 5.1 not using consolekit any longer, please see http://wiki.vinuxproject.org/speechd-up for more information. To use speechd-up log in to your desktop session and run sudo speechd-up from a gnome-terminal or add a startup item to do it automatically upon login. There seems to be a bug in the console if you use speakup-tools to save local speakup settings. How ever as a work around you can still gain access using sudo or root. Software Firefox 48 with updates available to 5.0.1 Thunderbird 45.2 with updates available to 45.5 Unity 7.2.4 Gnome-shell 3.10.4 Mate 1.8 LibreOffice 4.2.8 Espeak 1.48 Evince 3.12.2 Clam av 0.98.7 with updates available to 0.99 Kernel 4.40 from Xenial Availability Vinux 5.1 is available in the AMD64 and i386 architectures They contain everything necessary to install the Vinux operating system and a collection of pre-defined packages aimed at vision impaired users. This should be all you need if you can burn and use DVD sized media. Vinux 5.1 can be installed from optical media or from a USB pen drive. The required files can be downloaded via HTTP as entailed below. Support This is a long term support release, the Vinux development team encourages users to download and install Vinux 5.1 We are unable to commit to a support date due to lacking development resources. Contacting US Our mailing list has a supportive community on Google groups at http://groups.google.com/group/vinux-support or you can subscribe by sending an email to vinux-support+subscribe at googlegroups.com Follow us on Twitter @vinuxnews. We are on Facebook http://www.facebook.com/Vinux.AccessibleLinux/ http://www.facebook.com/groups/vinux/ Acknowledgements * Rob Whyte, Vinux project manager. * Luke Yelavich. Development team leader. * Bill Taylor. Testing team leader. * Karen Searle for proofreading and editing our documentation, website and wiki. Also for designing our new logo. * The Vinux team would also like to thank Christopher Chaltain, Burt Henry, Peter Tesar and members of the Vinux mailing lists for their ongoing support. MD5 Checksums: * vinux-5.1-amd64.iso f29d5ae0f5e7371b297efd5bef9eecd4 * vinux-5.1-i386.iso dce508f1dbfc10a109b866835b6e4d4f Downloading Vinux Vinux has chosen Source forge for our preferred downloads. This way users can gain fast access to over 17 mirrors and give us feedback to user statistics. http://sourceforge.net/projects/vinuxproject/ Thank you for supporting the Vinux project. Kind regards Rob Whyte Vinux project manager From trend669953 at gmail.com Thu Jan 19 03:07:02 2017 From: trend669953 at gmail.com (Amir) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 11:07:02 +0800 Subject: cannot use the accessibility ppa on ubuntu 16.10 Message-ID: <8b3e5910-a647-83f4-3bf4-c9b94a1c6d0c@gmail.com> Hi, when i added the ppa on ubuntu 16.10 (i am using mate edition), and when i update (sudo apt-get update), it said errors when fetching the accessibility ppa, so i cannot get the latest version of orca and so on! can anyone help? errors are as follows: "W: The repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/accessibility-dev/ppa/ubuntu yakkety Release' does not have a Release file. N: Data from such a repository can't be authenticated and is therefore potentially dangerous to use. N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details. E: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/accessibility-dev/ppa/ubuntu/dists/yakkety/main/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead. user at user:~$ " hth! From fudge at thefudge.net Thu Jan 19 03:16:17 2017 From: fudge at thefudge.net (Rob Whyte) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 14:16:17 +1100 Subject: cannot use the accessibility ppa on ubuntu 16.10 In-Reply-To: <8b3e5910-a647-83f4-3bf4-c9b94a1c6d0c@gmail.com> References: <8b3e5910-a647-83f4-3bf4-c9b94a1c6d0c@gmail.com> Message-ID: <26faa9d2-9a2f-bb4c-0aa4-abffb5ba1018@thefudge.net> Hi, the problem is that the archive does not yet contain a Yakkety release. The latest is Xenial, you could edit your source in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ for the accessibility archive and change yakkety to xenial and apt-get update again. Good luck Rob On 19/01/17 14:07, Amir wrote: > Hi, > > when i added the ppa on ubuntu 16.10 (i am using mate edition), and > when i update (sudo apt-get update), it said errors when fetching the > accessibility ppa, so i cannot get the latest version of orca and so > on! can anyone help? errors are as follows: > > "W: The repository > 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/accessibility-dev/ppa/ubuntu yakkety > Release' does not have a Release file. > N: Data from such a repository can't be authenticated and is therefore > potentially dangerous to use. > N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user > configuration details. > E: Failed to fetch > http://ppa.launchpad.net/accessibility-dev/ppa/ubuntu/dists/yakkety/main/binary-i386/Packages > 404 Not Found > E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old > ones used > instead. > user at user:~$ > " > > hth! > > > From gervin at cableone.net Sun Jan 22 23:35:48 2017 From: gervin at cableone.net (Glenn / Lenny) Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2017 17:35:48 -0600 Subject: Ubuntu 16.04 upper panel for applications Message-ID: <7F91D5BBF762413F8779C1659482FA44@LennyAcer5720> Hi, I installed Ubuntu 16.04 on a friend's computer, and if I do alt + F1, I get some limited applications, but the best ones for him would be the list with the three menus, applications, system, and places. I get the Unity panel when I press the super key, but that is not a lot of help. I tried typing in panels there, but did not get anything helpful. Is there another desktop to install, or how can I tweak this to be more user friendly? Thanks -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From burt1iband at gmail.com Sun Jan 22 23:51:48 2017 From: burt1iband at gmail.com (B. Henry) Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2017 17:51:48 -0600 Subject: Ubuntu 16.04 upper panel for applications In-Reply-To: <7F91D5BBF762413F8779C1659482FA44@LennyAcer5720> References: <7F91D5BBF762413F8779C1659482FA44@LennyAcer5720> Message-ID: <20170122235148.GE5537@gmail.com> You get the launcher with alt f1, i.e. no full aps menu is there. There are ways you can get categorized aps menus, e.g. some file managers allow you to display them, but you'll need to change freom default settings. Pcmanfm is the one that worked well for me on Ubuntu as I recall, but I can't remember if I enabled apps in pcmanfm on 16.04. I wrote a little script that creates categorized aps menus with a few extras, check the Vinux support googlegroup for more info. I think I also posted to the orca list about this. The other alternative that comes to minid is the classic menu indicator, but I hate it these days, well the last version I tried anyway as aps show up in as many as 3 or 4 categories, and thus the clutter is terrible. You or your friend really want the menus like are in mate. Unity does not have these. My app is the best alternative I think, has shutdown and reboot options also as well as a menu item to shutdown most popular graphical desktops and a monitor toggle as well so you can get privacy and or save on battery when using a laptop. -- B.H. Registerd Linux User 521886 Glenn / Lenny wrote: Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 05:35:48PM -0600 > Hi, > I installed Ubuntu 16.04 on a friend's computer, and if I do alt + F1, I > get some limited applications, but the best ones for him would be the list > with the three menus, applications, system, and places. > I get the Unity panel when I press the super key, but that is not a lot of > help. > I tried typing in panels there, but did not get anything helpful. > Is there another desktop to install, or how can I tweak this to be more > user friendly? > Thanks > -- > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility End of quoted content -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Best regards. -- Alex ARNAUD Visual-Impairment Project Manager Hypra - "Humanizing technology" Le 23/01/2017 à 00:35, Glenn / Lenny a écrit : > Hi, > I installed Ubuntu 16.04 on a friend's computer, and if I do alt + F1, I > get some limited applications, but the best ones for him would be the > list with the three menus, applications, system, and places. > I get the Unity panel when I press the super key, but that is not a lot > of help. > I tried typing in panels there, but did not get anything helpful. > Is there another desktop to install, or how can I tweak this to be more > user friendly? > > Thanks > >