From quirky.wizard at gmx.com Wed Mar 1 16:22:42 2017 From: quirky.wizard at gmx.com (Daniel Crone) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2017 10:22:42 -0600 Subject: partitioning a u s b drive Message-ID: <6A32EDA7-6E73-4227-99E1-96D223276C3D@gmx.com> Ubuntu 16.04 is on my computer. I want to use my ubuntu dvd to install ubuntu to a u s b drive, which has partitions that would need to be reformatted. I know that during installing, I would choose, ‘something else’, then go to sdb to do what I need to prepare this drive. How may I find out how to format this drive to a linux format? From fudge at thefudge.net Wed Mar 1 20:30:25 2017 From: fudge at thefudge.net (Rob Whyte) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2017 07:30:25 +1100 Subject: partitioning a u s b drive In-Reply-To: <6A32EDA7-6E73-4227-99E1-96D223276C3D@gmx.com> References: <6A32EDA7-6E73-4227-99E1-96D223276C3D@gmx.com> Message-ID: <3c907c8f-e665-e7f5-1ac3-f51fbd266ba6@thefudge.net> Hi, when you hit space on the drive, you should be given options like format, ext4 and a mount point of / 'slash'. Do you already know that though? cheers Rob On 02/03/17 03:22, Daniel Crone wrote: > Ubuntu 16.04 is on my computer. > I want to use my ubuntu dvd to install ubuntu to a u s b drive, which has partitions that would need to be reformatted. > I know that during installing, I would choose, ‘something else’, then go to sdb to do what I need to prepare this drive. > How may I find out how to format this drive to a linux format? From fudge at thefudge.net Wed Mar 1 21:20:02 2017 From: fudge at thefudge.net (Rob Whyte) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2017 08:20:02 +1100 Subject: partitioning a u s b drive In-Reply-To: References: <6A32EDA7-6E73-4227-99E1-96D223276C3D@gmx.com> <3c907c8f-e665-e7f5-1ac3-f51fbd266ba6@thefudge.net> Message-ID: Hi, well I use Vinux which is soon changing from Ubuntu under the hood to Fedora. I do not believe speakup is maintained anymore but if you install speechd-up and from the terminal you can run sudo speechd-up you should be able to use it. This does work from Vinux not sure about Ubuntu, some Ubuntu users install espeakup instead. cheers On 02/03/17 07:40, Daniel Crone wrote: > Hello Rob. Did not know that. Which distribution and which desktop is your favorite? > Also, is speakup still being maintained at all? >> On Mar 1, 2017, at 2:30 PM, Rob Whyte wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> when you hit space on the drive, you should be given options like >> format, ext4 and a mount point of / 'slash'. >> >> Do you already know that though? >> >> >> cheers >> >> Rob >> >> >> On 02/03/17 03:22, Daniel Crone wrote: >>> Ubuntu 16.04 is on my computer. >>> I want to use my ubuntu dvd to install ubuntu to a u s b drive, which has partitions that would need to be reformatted. >>> I know that during installing, I would choose, ‘something else’, then go to sdb to do what I need to prepare this drive. >>> How may I find out how to format this drive to a linux format? >> >> -- >> Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list >> Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility From burt1iband at gmail.com Thu Mar 2 05:35:01 2017 From: burt1iband at gmail.com (B. Henry) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2017 23:35:01 -0600 Subject: partitioning a u s b drive In-Reply-To: <6A32EDA7-6E73-4227-99E1-96D223276C3D@gmx.com> References: <6A32EDA7-6E73-4227-99E1-96D223276C3D@gmx.com> Message-ID: <20170302053500.GA5548@gmail.com> Depending on what you mean by a usb drive, e.g. I guess you mean a standard hard drive that you will connect to your computer via a usb port, but maybe you mean a usb flash memory stick,(thumbdrive, pendrive, or what ever you like to call those), how you partition will vary. If it is a standard external harddrive you will want to use more or less the same partitioning scheme you use for your internal HDD. You can do the partitioning before actually starting the installer and just use the installer's partitioning tool to select the partitions you have created after choosing the do something else option when asked where you want to install Ubuntu, (how you want to install perhaps it is worded). Alternatively, you can select the same thing, but create the partitions and file systems with the installer's partitioning tool. I usually do the first. You can also let the installer try and install along side of your existing opperating system(s) and see if it lets you use the free space on the connected external, usb drive. You will want to format the drive if there is nothing on it you wish to keep. If using gparted to format, (my favorite way to do this, and easiest for folks who are less experienced as well as for many Linux experts), you open menus and choose the create new partition table option. Normally you have two options that make since, ms-dos or GPT. Assuming GPT is supported, and I think it will be by your drive, choose that as it is more robust in case of corruption somewhere down the line, but I've usually used ms-dos out of habbit. Then your usb-drive is ready to go, i.e. you can make the partitions you want. You want ext4 partitions in most cases, and as you are asking the chances there is a reason you'd want something else are even lower. You will also need a swap partition. If you will always use the external HDD with the same computer then you can just use the swap partition you have on the internal drive, that is assuming it has Linux on it and an apropriately sized swap partition on it. Otherwise you will want one Linux swap partition on the external drive. At the least I strongly reccoment putting a separate /home partition on the external drive. I've written in some detail about partitioning on the Vinux support list about my thoughts on partitioning in the last year or two, probably before as well, so search the archives for more detail than I'm going to give here. In brief you probably want at least 15GB for your / (root, not slash root, partition), and assuming you have 80 to 100GB or more I'd make that root partition 20GB, as large as 25GB or so if you have plenty of free space, say 150GB or more. The swap partition should be a bit more than your total RAM if you have 3GB of physical memory, and as much as double your RAM if you are memory poor and can't expand it, say 2GB for 1 gig of RAM, and 2.5 to 3 gigs for 1.5GB of RAM. You can either use the rest of your free space for /home, or if that is a lot make your self a 30-50GB /home partition and the rest make in to a separate data partition. The advantage of making the separate data partition is related to access time mostly, but depending on how you configure things can even improve boot times by a bit. I put large files that I plan on keeping on that data partition, movies, large audio books, .iso images for installing opperating systems, etc. I also usually put my google drive folder there. Make the root partition closest to the start of your disk, i.e. make it first with the suggested minimum of free space before it, perhaps 1MB, but take what ever gparted suggests. Next I usually would put swap, (but a small /home partition of 30GB) could go there, especially if you have plenty of RAM and won't need your swap space much), next /home assuming swap was 2nd, and finally the data partition. I've experimented with making a /boot partition, but have not noticed any performance difference compared with having /boot on the root partition. If you are limiting your Ubuntu space to something under 40 or 50GB then I'd make that root partition smaller, 10 or 12 GB and probably leave out the data partition, and if really limited, say 20GB-25GB, consider just running with the standard automatic Ubuntu and Vinux partitioning scheme, everything on one partition except for swap. Again, ext4 and swap partitions are all you should need to work with, but if putting them on an ms-dos formated drive maybe put/home and one or more other partitions on an extended partition since you can only make for primary partitions on ms-dos formatted drives, (in this case three primary partitions and an extended partition where you can put a lot of logical partitions). If formatting to GPT this is not a worry as you can make more partitions than you will likely ever want on such a disk. If using a USB memory stick then there are different ways of doing things depending on how you will be using the thumbdrive. I found an excellent program for making Ubuntu USB memopry sticks that is accessible, and easy to use that can give you persistent storage so you can save your settings and install some extra programs. It still uses squashed file systems, so you won't be wanting to update anything but the most critical applications, Orca for example, but it has worked well for me in my tests, and those include Ubuntu 16.04, a couple flavors of it actually. It can install other Linux distros as well, but as I remember some, maybe most won't have a persistent storage option, so you might as well just DD the image on to your thumb drive in those cases. You can also install to a thumbdrive as if it were a normal hard disk, but how you can format it may be limited, and depending on the thumbdrive not all file system types will be supported. You probably want to turn journaling off if using ext file systems, and don't put any swap on the usb-stick either. I am not very experienced with this last kind of installation, and have had mixed results depending on the pendrive I used. If you need more help and can't find the posts on the vinux-su-pport forum, (googlegroup), let me know and I probably either have a copy saved or can find some of the posts in the archive, and of course if you need more specific help, feel free to write back on or off list. -- B.H. Registerd Linux User 521886 Daniel Crone wrote: Wed, Mar 01, 2017 at 10:22:42AM -0600 > Ubuntu 16.04 is on my computer. > I want to use my ubuntu dvd to install ubuntu to a u s b drive, which has partitions that would need to be reformatted. > I know that during installing, I would choose, ‘something else’, then go to sdb to do what I need to prepare this drive. > How may I find out how to format this drive to a linux format? > -- > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility End of quoted content -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm pretty sure there's no grub window, but there should be, but if there is, how many arrow downs is it on the GRUB menu to repair it? Thanks. Lenny/Glenn/N0YJV "Happiness depends more on the inward disposition of mind than on outward circumstances." Benjamin Franklin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From burt1iband at gmail.com Sat Mar 4 22:05:51 2017 From: burt1iband at gmail.com (B. Henry) Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2017 16:05:51 -0600 Subject: trouble booting Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <001301d29515$4fa4add0$0f01a8c0@NUCPPYH> References: <001301d29515$4fa4add0$0f01a8c0@NUCPPYH> Message-ID: <20170304220551.GC14704@gmail.com> Please explain a bit more. Did you install the old ubuntu on to the internal drive, or were you trying to do that when the cable unplugged? Is there anything on the internal drive at all that you know of? You can try typing your user name, pressing enter and then your password at the screen you can not read and see if you log-in to a console. If so, you can try running sudo update-grub and see what that does. I can probably give you a couple more ideas once I know just what you have there, but I'm a bit unclear as to what you have or are likely to have from your original post. I'd make a bootable usb stick with something like vinux5 or ubuntu 16.04 on it if I were you so I could look around and see what is on each disk, and if need be do some things from chroot. Do you eventually want to be booting from the external drive or your internal drive, or have an OS or two on each? -- B.H. Registerd Linux User 521886 Glenn At Home wrote: Sat, Mar 04, 2017 at 12:29:50PM -0600 > Hi, > I have Ubuntu in an external disk drive, I took the HD from my laptop and > put in a larger drive, and for setting things up, I was able to boot to my > old HD in the external drive via cable, and use the old install of Ubuntu. > But the cord got unplugged during boot up and now it looks like a DOS > terminal window, I cannot read the stuff on the screen, but I'm guessing > that the prompt at the cursor reads boot: > My question is, > How does one get a failed Ubuntu to boot up in such a situation? > Is it working at that prompt, and will it eventually boot up? > I'm pretty sure there's no grub window, but there should be, but if there > is, how many arrow downs is it on the GRUB menu to repair it? > Thanks. >   >   > Lenny/Glenn/N0YJV > *Happiness depends more on the inward disposition of mind than on outward > circumstances.* > Benjamin Franklin > -- > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility End of quoted content -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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On Sat, 4 Mar 2017, Glenn At Home wrote: > Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2017 13:29:50 > From: Glenn At Home > To: Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: trouble booting Ubuntu > > Hi, > I have Ubuntu in an external disk drive, I took the HD from my laptop and put in a larger drive, and for setting things up, I was able to boot to my old HD in the external drive via cable, and use the old install of Ubuntu. > But the cord got unplugged during boot up and now it looks like a DOS terminal window, I cannot read the stuff on the screen, but I'm guessing that the prompt at the cursor reads boot: > My question is, > How does one get a failed Ubuntu to boot up in such a situation? > Is it working at that prompt, and will it eventually boot up? > I'm pretty sure there's no grub window, but there should be, but if there is, how many arrow downs is it on the GRUB menu to repair it? > Thanks. > > > Lenny/Glenn/N0YJV > "Happiness depends more on the inward disposition of mind than on outward circumstances." > Benjamin Franklin > -- -------------- next part -------------- -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility From fudge at thefudge.net Sun Mar 5 05:07:42 2017 From: fudge at thefudge.net (Rob Whyte) Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2017 16:07:42 +1100 Subject: trouble booting Ubuntu In-Reply-To: References: <001301d29515$4fa4add0$0f01a8c0@NUCPPYH> Message-ID: <327a777c-b874-1246-4014-1b9374610269@thefudge.net> I have not been following this thread but I would use live media to mount and repair it that way. Are you familiar iwth how to mount a partition and bind proc dev sys etc to repair grub or run fsck on unmounted file systems? Cheers On 05/03/17 16:01, Jude DaShiell wrote: > My guess is, it wants you to key in root password so you can then run > e2fsck and repair the system. What ubuntu accessibility is like when > this happens I do not know. > > On Sat, 4 Mar 2017, Glenn At Home wrote: > >> Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2017 13:29:50 >> From: Glenn At Home >> To: Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com >> Subject: trouble booting Ubuntu >> >> Hi, >> I have Ubuntu in an external disk drive, I took the HD from my laptop >> and put in a larger drive, and for setting things up, I was able to >> boot to my old HD in the external drive via cable, and use the old >> install of Ubuntu. >> But the cord got unplugged during boot up and now it looks like a DOS >> terminal window, I cannot read the stuff on the screen, but I'm >> guessing that the prompt at the cursor reads boot: >> My question is, >> How does one get a failed Ubuntu to boot up in such a situation? >> Is it working at that prompt, and will it eventually boot up? >> I'm pretty sure there's no grub window, but there should be, but if >> there is, how many arrow downs is it on the GRUB menu to repair it? >> Thanks. >> >> >> Lenny/Glenn/N0YJV >> "Happiness depends more on the inward disposition of mind than on >> outward circumstances." >> Benjamin Franklin >> > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From burt1iband at gmail.com Sun Mar 5 20:10:00 2017 From: burt1iband at gmail.com (B. Henry) Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2017 14:10:00 -0600 Subject: trouble booting Ubuntu In-Reply-To: References: <001301d29515$4fa4add0$0f01a8c0@NUCPPYH> Message-ID: <20170305200918.GA19429@gmail.com> I've had this happen a number of times on arch, but never on Ubuntu or Vinux, so not sure how it would be dealt with. You'd not have a root PW by default on Ubuntu, most people do not make one, so no idea how to deal with this if it were to happen, but again, never seen it myself on the distro in question. You can run fsck from a usb stick with a live system on it, one of the things I was thinking about when I suggested getting such a usb thumbdrive together in my other preply. -- B.H. Registerd Linux User 521886 Jude DaShiell wrote: Sun, Mar 05, 2017 at 12:01:00AM -0500 > My guess is, it wants you to key in root password so you can then run e2fsck > and repair the system. What ubuntu accessibility is like when this happens > I do not know. > > On Sat, 4 Mar 2017, Glenn At Home wrote: > > > Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2017 13:29:50 > > From: Glenn At Home > > To: Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com > > Subject: trouble booting Ubuntu > > > > Hi, > > I have Ubuntu in an external disk drive, I took the HD from my laptop and put in a larger drive, and for setting things up, I was able to boot to my old HD in the external drive via cable, and use the old install of Ubuntu. > > But the cord got unplugged during boot up and now it looks like a DOS terminal window, I cannot read the stuff on the screen, but I'm guessing that the prompt at the cursor reads boot: > > My question is, > > How does one get a failed Ubuntu to boot up in such a situation? > > Is it working at that prompt, and will it eventually boot up? > > I'm pretty sure there's no grub window, but there should be, but if there is, how many arrow downs is it on the GRUB menu to repair it? > > Thanks. > > > > > > Lenny/Glenn/N0YJV > > "Happiness depends more on the inward disposition of mind than on outward circumstances." > > Benjamin Franklin > > > > -- > -- > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility > -- > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility From samuel.thibault at ens-lyon.org Mon Mar 13 21:58:16 2017 From: samuel.thibault at ens-lyon.org (Samuel Thibault) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2017 22:58:16 +0100 Subject: Accessibility topic of LSM 2017 Message-ID: <20170313215816.hh2kuumhjyn55g7g@var.youpi.perso.aquilenet.fr> LSM/RMLL 2017                  17th Libre Software Meeting                       July 1-7, 2017                   Saint-Etienne, France                   http://2017.rmll.info/               Call For Papers and Participation          limited to accessibility topic      [we apologize for duplicate receipt of this message]          Last call before deadline : march *31st* 2017 Sharing of knowledge, freedom of information, community spirit, exchange of ideas, technological progress: every year the Libre Software Meeting (LSM) follows the Libre philosophy. RMLL/LSM is a non-commercial series of conferences, round tables discussions and practical workshops based on Libre/Free Software and its uses. Its aim is to provide a platform for Libre/Free Software users, developers and stakeholders. Access to LSM is free of charge and open to everyone. The conference will be held in Beauvais from July 1st to July 7, 2017. We hereby announce the opportunity to submit papers for selection by the technical review committee for the RMLL/LSM 2017. This year again we would like to put a particular emphasis on accessibility on the whole RMLL/LSM event. We will have our usual workshop, as described below, but we would like to have accessibility talks held in other sessions too, if possible all of them, as was achieved in 2010 in Bordeaux. We thus invite you to submit your accessibility talks to various topics, so as to broaden the audience of accessibility questions. Concerning our dedicated accessibility workshop, to better target the various exchanges that will be taking place, the programme committee of the accessibility workshop proposes several kinds of meetings: - "Solution" meetings, with conferences  and round tables to present solutions dedicated to previous areas. - "State of the art" conferences between practitioners, developers, scientists and users to discuss about what exists according to the specific needs of users, what works well or a little less well, to talk about approaches... - "Technical" presentations between developers and scientists. This will allow initiation of exchanges between communities that do not necessarily have the opportunity to meet and will maybe lead to new collaborations or projects. Finally, a workshop area will be available to try out and exchange tools presented by their authors or by seasoned users of those solutions. Information on workshops from last event is available on - https://2015.rmll.info/accessibilite Information on the previous global RMLL/LSM emphasis on accessibility in 2010 is available on - http://2010.rmll.info/+-Accessibilite,2-+.html You will be able to attend conferences  on other related issues such as "System Administration" (like Nagios, GLPI, Cfengine, ...), "Development" (like NoSQL, Lucene, GCC, ...), "Law" (like Licenses,OpenData, FSF, ...), "Internet" (WebGL, Jabber, Typo3, ...), ... Conferences from last year are available on : - https://2015.rmll.info/conferences-et-ateliers If you are interested in participating, please have a look at the topics presentation on https://2017.rmll.info/pages/themes.html and submit your presentation at: https://2017.rmll.info/cfp/talk/new Please feel free to share this information with others people who may be interested. 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Web site ================= Event web site : http://2017.rmll.info/ CfP website : https://2017.rmll.info/pages/themes.html Best regards, Programme Commitee of the LSM 2017 accessibility topic From fudge at thefudge.net Wed Mar 15 11:21:59 2017 From: fudge at thefudge.net (Rob Whyte) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 22:21:59 +1100 Subject: Sonar GNU Linux merges with Vinux Message-ID: <78d838e4-7777-e17f-7431-6499611f6dee@thefudge.net> Sonar merges with the Vinux Project. http://www.sonargnulinux.com and http://www.vinuxproject.org team up. Exciting news for the Sonar and Vinux communities. A special meeting was held early 2017 between core Sonar and Vinux team members. It was agreed that the two projects will be working together toward common goals. Whilst Vinux has recently indicated to move the distro base from Ubuntu to Fedora, several meetings have been held between Vinux and Sonar core members with an agreement taking place toward common goals that will freshen up both projects. Some teams have been expanded, and new teams have been created within Vinux, with the influx of Sonar developers and users. Project leader Rob Whyte said that the merge will minimize fragmentation and combine resources. Most importantly, having a larger active community will allow us to develop some visions we have had for some time. Going forward in 2017, Vinux hopes to become a not for profit organization and to step up what we can deliver to our loyal user base. Under the new arrangements, Vinux has agreed to stem into the ARM architecture, offering exciting new possibilities, and has also committed to again provide Vinux hardware, focusing primarily on ARM devices. Though mainstream distro accessibility is paramount, we believe after much consultation that a specialised distro is still required. Together with Linux-a11y, most commonly known for the active development of the Fenrir screen reader and the OCRPDF and OCRDesktop text recognition tools, Vinux has agreed to continuously push for and contribute to accessibility inclusion within main line distributions. Vinux plans to produce images based mainly upon the Mate desktop environment, but also Gnome; and builds for Arm devices, including the Raspberry Pi, Odroid XU3, XU4 and C2 and hopefully others, depending on the availability of hardware. We at Vinux are excited for this new chapter we are embracing. Kind regards Rob Whyte Vinux project manager From ddf051.wolf at googlemail.com Wed Mar 15 11:49:53 2017 From: ddf051.wolf at googlemail.com (Werwoelfchen) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 12:49:53 +0100 Subject: Sonar GNU Linux merges with Vinux In-Reply-To: <78d838e4-7777-e17f-7431-6499611f6dee@thefudge.net> References: <78d838e4-7777-e17f-7431-6499611f6dee@thefudge.net> Message-ID: Hi, Will the Vinux project finish the Ubuntu support? Regards, Wolfram Am 15.03.2017 um 12:21 schrieb Rob Whyte: > Sonar merges with the Vinux Project. > http://www.sonargnulinux.com and http://www.vinuxproject.org team up. > > Exciting news for the Sonar and Vinux communities. > A special meeting was held early 2017 between core Sonar and Vinux team > members. It was agreed that the two projects will be working together > toward common goals. Whilst Vinux has recently indicated to move the > distro base from Ubuntu to Fedora, several meetings have been held > between Vinux and Sonar core members with an agreement taking place > toward common goals that will freshen up both projects. Some teams have > been expanded, and new teams have been created within Vinux, with the > influx of Sonar developers and users. Project leader Rob Whyte said that > the merge will minimize fragmentation and combine resources. Most > importantly, having a larger active community will allow us to develop > some visions we have had for some time. > > Going forward in 2017, Vinux hopes to become a not for profit > organization and to step up what we can deliver to our loyal user base. > Under the new arrangements, Vinux has agreed to stem into the ARM > architecture, offering exciting new possibilities, and has also > committed to again provide Vinux hardware, focusing primarily on ARM > devices. > > Though mainstream distro accessibility is paramount, we believe after > much consultation that a specialised distro is still required. > Together with Linux-a11y, most commonly known for the active development > of the Fenrir screen reader and the OCRPDF and OCRDesktop text > recognition tools, Vinux has agreed to continuously push for and > contribute to accessibility inclusion within main line distributions. > > Vinux plans to produce images based mainly upon the Mate desktop > environment, but also Gnome; and builds for Arm devices, including the > Raspberry Pi, Odroid XU3, XU4 and C2 and hopefully others, depending on > the availability of hardware. > > We at Vinux are excited for this new chapter we are embracing. > > Kind regards > Rob Whyte > Vinux project manager > From fudge at thefudge.net Wed Mar 15 11:53:26 2017 From: fudge at thefudge.net (Rob Whyte) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 22:53:26 +1100 Subject: Sonar GNU Linux merges with Vinux In-Reply-To: References: <78d838e4-7777-e17f-7431-6499611f6dee@thefudge.net> Message-ID: Hi Werwoelfchen, It is our hope to complete our Ubuntu 16.04.2 release of Vinux 6 and support that whilst we work on a Fedora release. Hope this addresses your query sufficiently. Cheers Rob On 15/03/17 22:49, Werwoelfchen wrote: > > Hi, > Will the Vinux project finish the Ubuntu support? > Regards, > Wolfram > Am 15.03.2017 um 12:21 schrieb Rob Whyte: >> Sonar merges with the Vinux Project. >> http://www.sonargnulinux.com and http://www.vinuxproject.org team up. >> >> Exciting news for the Sonar and Vinux communities. >> A special meeting was held early 2017 between core Sonar and Vinux team >> members. It was agreed that the two projects will be working together >> toward common goals. Whilst Vinux has recently indicated to move the >> distro base from Ubuntu to Fedora, several meetings have been held >> between Vinux and Sonar core members with an agreement taking place >> toward common goals that will freshen up both projects. Some teams have >> been expanded, and new teams have been created within Vinux, with the >> influx of Sonar developers and users. Project leader Rob Whyte said that >> the merge will minimize fragmentation and combine resources. Most >> importantly, having a larger active community will allow us to develop >> some visions we have had for some time. >> >> Going forward in 2017, Vinux hopes to become a not for profit >> organization and to step up what we can deliver to our loyal user base. >> Under the new arrangements, Vinux has agreed to stem into the ARM >> architecture, offering exciting new possibilities, and has also >> committed to again provide Vinux hardware, focusing primarily on ARM >> devices. >> >> Though mainstream distro accessibility is paramount, we believe after >> much consultation that a specialised distro is still required. >> Together with Linux-a11y, most commonly known for the active development >> of the Fenrir screen reader and the OCRPDF and OCRDesktop text >> recognition tools, Vinux has agreed to continuously push for and >> contribute to accessibility inclusion within main line distributions. >> >> Vinux plans to produce images based mainly upon the Mate desktop >> environment, but also Gnome; and builds for Arm devices, including the >> Raspberry Pi, Odroid XU3, XU4 and C2 and hopefully others, depending on >> the availability of hardware. >> >> We at Vinux are excited for this new chapter we are embracing. >> >> Kind regards >> Rob Whyte >> Vinux project manager >> > From ddf051.wolf at googlemail.com Wed Mar 15 11:59:01 2017 From: ddf051.wolf at googlemail.com (Werwoelfchen) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 12:59:01 +0100 Subject: Sonar GNU Linux merges with Vinux In-Reply-To: References: <78d838e4-7777-e17f-7431-6499611f6dee@thefudge.net> Message-ID: Hi Rob, that means, one day there will be both releases. Regards Am 15.03.2017 um 12:53 schrieb Rob Whyte: > Hi Werwoelfchen, > > It is our hope to complete our Ubuntu 16.04.2 release of Vinux 6 and > support that whilst we work on a Fedora release. > > Hope this addresses your query sufficiently. > > > Cheers > > Rob > > > > On 15/03/17 22:49, Werwoelfchen wrote: >> Hi, >> Will the Vinux project finish the Ubuntu support? >> Regards, >> Wolfram >> Am 15.03.2017 um 12:21 schrieb Rob Whyte: >>> Sonar merges with the Vinux Project. >>> http://www.sonargnulinux.com and http://www.vinuxproject.org team up. >>> >>> Exciting news for the Sonar and Vinux communities. >>> A special meeting was held early 2017 between core Sonar and Vinux team >>> members. It was agreed that the two projects will be working together >>> toward common goals. Whilst Vinux has recently indicated to move the >>> distro base from Ubuntu to Fedora, several meetings have been held >>> between Vinux and Sonar core members with an agreement taking place >>> toward common goals that will freshen up both projects. Some teams have >>> been expanded, and new teams have been created within Vinux, with the >>> influx of Sonar developers and users. Project leader Rob Whyte said that >>> the merge will minimize fragmentation and combine resources. Most >>> importantly, having a larger active community will allow us to develop >>> some visions we have had for some time. >>> >>> Going forward in 2017, Vinux hopes to become a not for profit >>> organization and to step up what we can deliver to our loyal user base. >>> Under the new arrangements, Vinux has agreed to stem into the ARM >>> architecture, offering exciting new possibilities, and has also >>> committed to again provide Vinux hardware, focusing primarily on ARM >>> devices. >>> >>> Though mainstream distro accessibility is paramount, we believe after >>> much consultation that a specialised distro is still required. >>> Together with Linux-a11y, most commonly known for the active development >>> of the Fenrir screen reader and the OCRPDF and OCRDesktop text >>> recognition tools, Vinux has agreed to continuously push for and >>> contribute to accessibility inclusion within main line distributions. >>> >>> Vinux plans to produce images based mainly upon the Mate desktop >>> environment, but also Gnome; and builds for Arm devices, including the >>> Raspberry Pi, Odroid XU3, XU4 and C2 and hopefully others, depending on >>> the availability of hardware. >>> >>> We at Vinux are excited for this new chapter we are embracing. >>> >>> Kind regards >>> Rob Whyte >>> Vinux project manager >>> > From milton at tomaatnet.nl Wed Mar 15 11:59:21 2017 From: milton at tomaatnet.nl (Milton) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 12:59:21 +0100 Subject: Sonar GNU Linux merges with Vinux In-Reply-To: References: <78d838e4-7777-e17f-7431-6499611f6dee@thefudge.net> Message-ID: <69b73ee5-ca77-54fe-e8e2-a2033a6dfc46@tomaatnet.nl> Hi Rob, Great news! Will Vinux 7 based on Fedora and when will the release be planned? Milton Op 15-03-17 om 12:53 schreef Rob Whyte: > Hi Werwoelfchen, > > It is our hope to complete our Ubuntu 16.04.2 release of Vinux 6 and > support that whilst we work on a Fedora release. > > Hope this addresses your query sufficiently. > > > Cheers > > Rob > > > > On 15/03/17 22:49, Werwoelfchen wrote: >> >> Hi, >> Will the Vinux project finish the Ubuntu support? >> Regards, >> Wolfram >> Am 15.03.2017 um 12:21 schrieb Rob Whyte: >>> Sonar merges with the Vinux Project. >>> http://www.sonargnulinux.com and http://www.vinuxproject.org team up. >>> >>> Exciting news for the Sonar and Vinux communities. >>> A special meeting was held early 2017 between core Sonar and Vinux team >>> members. It was agreed that the two projects will be working together >>> toward common goals. Whilst Vinux has recently indicated to move the >>> distro base from Ubuntu to Fedora, several meetings have been held >>> between Vinux and Sonar core members with an agreement taking place >>> toward common goals that will freshen up both projects. Some teams have >>> been expanded, and new teams have been created within Vinux, with the >>> influx of Sonar developers and users. Project leader Rob Whyte said that >>> the merge will minimize fragmentation and combine resources. Most >>> importantly, having a larger active community will allow us to develop >>> some visions we have had for some time. >>> >>> Going forward in 2017, Vinux hopes to become a not for profit >>> organization and to step up what we can deliver to our loyal user base. >>> Under the new arrangements, Vinux has agreed to stem into the ARM >>> architecture, offering exciting new possibilities, and has also >>> committed to again provide Vinux hardware, focusing primarily on ARM >>> devices. >>> >>> Though mainstream distro accessibility is paramount, we believe after >>> much consultation that a specialised distro is still required. >>> Together with Linux-a11y, most commonly known for the active development >>> of the Fenrir screen reader and the OCRPDF and OCRDesktop text >>> recognition tools, Vinux has agreed to continuously push for and >>> contribute to accessibility inclusion within main line distributions. >>> >>> Vinux plans to produce images based mainly upon the Mate desktop >>> environment, but also Gnome; and builds for Arm devices, including the >>> Raspberry Pi, Odroid XU3, XU4 and C2 and hopefully others, depending on >>> the availability of hardware. >>> >>> We at Vinux are excited for this new chapter we are embracing. >>> >>> Kind regards >>> Rob Whyte >>> Vinux project manager >>> >> > > From fudge at thefudge.net Wed Mar 15 12:01:54 2017 From: fudge at thefudge.net (Rob Whyte) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 23:01:54 +1100 Subject: Sonar GNU Linux merges with Vinux In-Reply-To: <69b73ee5-ca77-54fe-e8e2-a2033a6dfc46@tomaatnet.nl> References: <78d838e4-7777-e17f-7431-6499611f6dee@thefudge.net> <69b73ee5-ca77-54fe-e8e2-a2033a6dfc46@tomaatnet.nl> Message-ID: Hey there Milton, nice to see you about. Yes I guess it will be Vinux 7 indeed. We are still in early stages of planning. We have secured servers etc to develop and build packages on and are planning our build process. Basically trying to get our ducks in a row as one would say. Stay tuned to our support list. Subscribe by mailing vinux-support+subscribe at googlegroups.com cheers Rob On 15/03/17 22:59, Milton wrote: > Hi Rob, > > Great news! Will Vinux 7 based on Fedora and when will the release be > planned? > Milton > > Op 15-03-17 om 12:53 schreef Rob Whyte: >> Hi Werwoelfchen, >> >> It is our hope to complete our Ubuntu 16.04.2 release of Vinux 6 and >> support that whilst we work on a Fedora release. >> >> Hope this addresses your query sufficiently. >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Rob >> >> >> >> On 15/03/17 22:49, Werwoelfchen wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> Will the Vinux project finish the Ubuntu support? >>> Regards, >>> Wolfram >>> Am 15.03.2017 um 12:21 schrieb Rob Whyte: >>>> Sonar merges with the Vinux Project. >>>> http://www.sonargnulinux.com and http://www.vinuxproject.org team up. >>>> >>>> Exciting news for the Sonar and Vinux communities. >>>> A special meeting was held early 2017 between core Sonar and Vinux >>>> team >>>> members. It was agreed that the two projects will be working together >>>> toward common goals. Whilst Vinux has recently indicated to move the >>>> distro base from Ubuntu to Fedora, several meetings have been held >>>> between Vinux and Sonar core members with an agreement taking place >>>> toward common goals that will freshen up both projects. Some teams >>>> have >>>> been expanded, and new teams have been created within Vinux, with the >>>> influx of Sonar developers and users. Project leader Rob Whyte said >>>> that >>>> the merge will minimize fragmentation and combine resources. Most >>>> importantly, having a larger active community will allow us to develop >>>> some visions we have had for some time. >>>> >>>> Going forward in 2017, Vinux hopes to become a not for profit >>>> organization and to step up what we can deliver to our loyal user >>>> base. >>>> Under the new arrangements, Vinux has agreed to stem into the ARM >>>> architecture, offering exciting new possibilities, and has also >>>> committed to again provide Vinux hardware, focusing primarily on ARM >>>> devices. >>>> >>>> Though mainstream distro accessibility is paramount, we believe after >>>> much consultation that a specialised distro is still required. >>>> Together with Linux-a11y, most commonly known for the active >>>> development >>>> of the Fenrir screen reader and the OCRPDF and OCRDesktop text >>>> recognition tools, Vinux has agreed to continuously push for and >>>> contribute to accessibility inclusion within main line distributions. >>>> >>>> Vinux plans to produce images based mainly upon the Mate desktop >>>> environment, but also Gnome; and builds for Arm devices, including the >>>> Raspberry Pi, Odroid XU3, XU4 and C2 and hopefully others, >>>> depending on >>>> the availability of hardware. >>>> >>>> We at Vinux are excited for this new chapter we are embracing. >>>> >>>> Kind regards >>>> Rob Whyte >>>> Vinux project manager >>>> >>> >> >> From milton at tomaatnet.nl Wed Mar 15 12:10:22 2017 From: milton at tomaatnet.nl (Milton) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 13:10:22 +0100 Subject: Sonar GNU Linux merges with Vinux In-Reply-To: References: <78d838e4-7777-e17f-7431-6499611f6dee@thefudge.net> <69b73ee5-ca77-54fe-e8e2-a2033a6dfc46@tomaatnet.nl> Message-ID: Many thanks Rob and also for your hard work! Milton Op 15-03-17 om 13:01 schreef Rob Whyte: > Hey there Milton, > > nice to see you about. > > Yes I guess it will be Vinux 7 indeed. > > We are still in early stages of planning. > > We have secured servers etc to develop and build packages on and are > planning our build process. > > > Basically trying to get our ducks in a row as one would say. > > > Stay tuned to our support list. > > Subscribe by mailing vinux-support+subscribe at googlegroups.com > > > cheers > > Rob > > > > On 15/03/17 22:59, Milton wrote: >> Hi Rob, >> >> Great news! Will Vinux 7 based on Fedora and when will the release be >> planned? >> Milton >> >> Op 15-03-17 om 12:53 schreef Rob Whyte: >>> Hi Werwoelfchen, >>> >>> It is our hope to complete our Ubuntu 16.04.2 release of Vinux 6 and >>> support that whilst we work on a Fedora release. >>> >>> Hope this addresses your query sufficiently. >>> >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Rob >>> >>> >>> >>> On 15/03/17 22:49, Werwoelfchen wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> Will the Vinux project finish the Ubuntu support? >>>> Regards, >>>> Wolfram >>>> Am 15.03.2017 um 12:21 schrieb Rob Whyte: >>>>> Sonar merges with the Vinux Project. >>>>> http://www.sonargnulinux.com and http://www.vinuxproject.org team up. >>>>> >>>>> Exciting news for the Sonar and Vinux communities. >>>>> A special meeting was held early 2017 between core Sonar and Vinux >>>>> team >>>>> members. It was agreed that the two projects will be working together >>>>> toward common goals. Whilst Vinux has recently indicated to move the >>>>> distro base from Ubuntu to Fedora, several meetings have been held >>>>> between Vinux and Sonar core members with an agreement taking place >>>>> toward common goals that will freshen up both projects. Some teams >>>>> have >>>>> been expanded, and new teams have been created within Vinux, with the >>>>> influx of Sonar developers and users. Project leader Rob Whyte said >>>>> that >>>>> the merge will minimize fragmentation and combine resources. Most >>>>> importantly, having a larger active community will allow us to develop >>>>> some visions we have had for some time. >>>>> >>>>> Going forward in 2017, Vinux hopes to become a not for profit >>>>> organization and to step up what we can deliver to our loyal user >>>>> base. >>>>> Under the new arrangements, Vinux has agreed to stem into the ARM >>>>> architecture, offering exciting new possibilities, and has also >>>>> committed to again provide Vinux hardware, focusing primarily on ARM >>>>> devices. >>>>> >>>>> Though mainstream distro accessibility is paramount, we believe after >>>>> much consultation that a specialised distro is still required. >>>>> Together with Linux-a11y, most commonly known for the active >>>>> development >>>>> of the Fenrir screen reader and the OCRPDF and OCRDesktop text >>>>> recognition tools, Vinux has agreed to continuously push for and >>>>> contribute to accessibility inclusion within main line distributions. >>>>> >>>>> Vinux plans to produce images based mainly upon the Mate desktop >>>>> environment, but also Gnome; and builds for Arm devices, including the >>>>> Raspberry Pi, Odroid XU3, XU4 and C2 and hopefully others, >>>>> depending on >>>>> the availability of hardware. >>>>> >>>>> We at Vinux are excited for this new chapter we are embracing. >>>>> >>>>> Kind regards >>>>> Rob Whyte >>>>> Vinux project manager >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> > > From kyle4jesus at gmail.com Wed Mar 15 12:34:50 2017 From: kyle4jesus at gmail.com (Kyle) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 08:34:50 -0400 Subject: Sonar GNU Linux merges with Vinux In-Reply-To: References: <78d838e4-7777-e17f-7431-6499611f6dee@thefudge.net> Message-ID: <6b46f2c6-5d84-f790-0bbf-919c7d73340e@gmail.com> Yes. Vinux will have one more release based on Ubuntu 16.04. Sent from the bridge From doconnor at sonic.net Wed Mar 22 18:41:12 2017 From: doconnor at sonic.net (doconnor) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2017 16:41:12 -0200 Subject: =?utf-8?B?Rnc6IGhhdmVuJ3Qgc2VlbiB0aGF0IGJlZm9yZQ==?= Message-ID: <1227066234.20170322214112@sonic.net> Hey, I've found a couple of great things that I've never seen before, check them out http://measure.bendflextwist.com/a0a1 Be well, doconnor -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: