From jdashiel at panix.com Wed Mar 11 16:40:36 2020 From: jdashiel at panix.com (Jude DaShiell) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2020 12:40:36 -0400 Subject: ubuntu version query Message-ID: A friend has in /etc/debian_version buster-sid. What version of ubuntu has he got on his computer? -- From jdashiel at panix.com Wed Mar 11 16:52:27 2020 From: jdashiel at panix.com (Jude DaShiell) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2020 12:52:27 -0400 Subject: Please forward, and thanks so much (fwd) Message-ID: I'm doing what I can to help Ray out with this. Apparently his version of ubuntu removed the gnome-classic option which is why he's having this trouble. -- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2020 12:46:11 From: Ray Jackson To: Jude Dashiel Subject: Please forward, and thanks so much Hi All, I've recently purchased a linux box from Think Penguin, and I find that orca is highly dysfunctional. I am not able to review the contents of the menu very effectively, and gnome is virtually inaccessible, although orca seems to work just fine in the terminal. when I saught to ascertain the version of linux on this machine, all I was able to get was "buster-sid." Older vions of linux used to have a menu that was accessed by alt-f1. In this menu one could shut down the system, access liber office, systems, networks and many other menu items. Well, this menu doesn't even seem to even exist anymore. This system cost me $700, and I would very much like to have a machine that is at least as functional as the system that I ran for years. I have been without a computer for a year and a half, and I find that so much has changed. Might I be using a version of ubuntu that orca hasn't caught up with yet? If this is the case, would I be better off dropping back to an older version? At this point, I haven't a clue as to how to proceed. Responders may want to respond off list so as to avoid bogarding list traffic, or if convenient, I would welcome a call @ 386-453-1147. Any help that anyone can give would be most highly appreciated. I am in rather a bind at the moment, and think penguine is a bit shy on their technical support. Sincere Regards, ray Jackson From milton at kleinbedrijf.org Wed Mar 11 18:31:22 2020 From: milton at kleinbedrijf.org (milton) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2020 19:31:22 +0100 Subject: ubuntu version query In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <009f1ba9-556f-1335-7e66-aacdd57bd006@kleinbedrijf.org> You can se the version of Ubuntu in the terminal, type: lsb_release -a Op 11-03-2020 om 17:40 schreef Jude DaShiell: > A friend has in /etc/debian_version buster-sid. What version of ubuntu > has he got on his computer? > > > > -- > > From milton at kleinbedrijf.org Wed Mar 11 18:33:48 2020 From: milton at kleinbedrijf.org (milton) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2020 19:33:48 +0100 Subject: Please forward, and thanks so much (fwd) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3279dfd9-14e5-e1d6-060a-6f82b4194f08@kleinbedrijf.org> I think maybe he has gnome in stead of unity, he can heck it out in the terminal, type: echo $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP Op 11-03-2020 om 17:52 schreef Jude DaShiell: > I'm doing what I can to help Ray out with this. Apparently his version of > ubuntu removed the gnome-classic option which is why he's having this > trouble. > > > > -- > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2020 12:46:11 > From: Ray Jackson > To: Jude Dashiel > Subject: Please forward, and thanks so much > > Hi All, > > I've recently purchased a linux box from Think Penguin, and I find that orca is > highly dysfunctional. I am not able to review the contents of the menu very > effectively, and gnome is virtually inaccessible, although orca seems to work > just fine in the terminal. > > when I saught to ascertain the version of linux on this machine, all I was able > to get was "buster-sid." Older vions of linux used to have a menu that was > accessed by alt-f1. In this menu one could shut down the system, access liber > office, systems, networks and many other menu items. Well, this menu doesn't > even seem to even exist anymore. This system cost me $700, and I would very much > like to have a machine that is at least as functional as the system that I ran > for years. I have been without a computer for a year and a half, and I find that > so much has changed. > > Might I be using a version of ubuntu that orca hasn't caught up with yet? If > this is the case, would I be better off dropping back to an older version? At > this point, I haven't a clue as to how to proceed. Responders may want to > respond off list so as to avoid bogarding list traffic, or if convenient, I > would welcome a call @ 386-453-1147. Any help that anyone can give would be most > highly appreciated. I am in rather a bind at the moment, and think penguine is a > bit shy on their technical support. > > Sincere Regards, > ray Jackson > > From jdashiel at panix.com Mon Mar 16 01:37:20 2020 From: jdashiel at panix.com (Jude DaShiell) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2020 21:37:20 -0400 Subject: a ubuntu mate install Message-ID: I helped a friend run tasksel and select mate and get that installed. Much more is accessible once that happened. He also installed the mate-extras package. Unfortunately mate help does not show up when he hits the f1 key. Does he need another package installed for him to be able to read help using the f1 key? -- From jdashiel at panix.com Mon Mar 16 14:57:02 2020 From: jdashiel at panix.com (Jude DaShiell) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2020 10:57:02 -0400 Subject: a mate install Message-ID: I wrote earlier about mate not bringing up help when f1 key was pressed. That problem remains. Something else happening is configuration somehow is locked to a slow voice and this user normally plays with a faster voice. By locked orca configuration I mean you can go through all of the steps to change a configuration setting and eventually hit ok and the change you made doesn't take. Is a reboot necessary to bring the change in orca active? If that doesn't work, I'd like to know what needs to be done to get these configurations user-modifyable. -- From jdashiel at panix.com Thu Mar 19 03:47:00 2020 From: jdashiel at panix.com (Jude DaShiell) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2020 23:47:00 -0400 Subject: ubuntu 19.10 orca problems Message-ID: A friend needs orca to speak faster and with less punctuation than is in the defaults in gsettings in ubuntu 19.10. Since I'm most of 900 miles away from him and he has no other linux support in that community I figured installing and running espeakup in console and only running orca for a few things that needed it would be the safest option. Rather than advise him to do anything, I put ubuntu 19.10 on a disk and got orca working and got espeakup installed and enabled. I also updated grub so it wouldn't do graphics and removed splash. Then I rebooted the machine and got orca talking and not espeakup. It could be that kernel line in grub needs a 3 appended to it to get espeakup working. I'll try that next. One thing would help if installing ubuntu-mate-environment if all suggested packages could also install automatically. I'm going to have to get espeakup working and use its clipboard facilities to add those suggested packages for now. -- From jdashiel at panix.com Thu Mar 19 04:07:49 2020 From: jdashiel at panix.com (Jude DaShiell) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2020 00:07:49 -0400 Subject: espeakup now working in ubuntu 19.10 Message-ID: It needed a few changes to /etc/default/grub then for update-grub to get run and now I can have orca working in ubuntu and espeakup even before orca gets going. -- From sonfire11 at gmail.com Thu Mar 19 12:22:20 2020 From: sonfire11 at gmail.com (Andy Borka) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2020 08:22:20 -0400 Subject: espeakup now working in ubuntu 19.10 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: What modifications did you make to get espeakup running before boot? I also have the problem where espeakup dies if I am signed into the graphical desktop at the same time as a tty being signed in. On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 12:08 AM Jude DaShiell wrote: > It needed a few changes to /etc/default/grub then for update-grub to get > run and now I can have orca working in ubuntu and espeakup even before > orca gets going. > > > > -- > > > -- > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jdashiel at panix.com Thu Mar 19 19:27:09 2020 From: jdashiel at panix.com (Jude DaShiell) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2020 15:27:09 -0400 Subject: espeakup now working in ubuntu 19.10 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: In /etc/default/grub remove splash from line 10. In /etc/default/grub change "" to "3" in line 11. In line 19 of /etc/default/grub uncomment line. In line 33 of /etc/default/grub uncomment line. Then run grub-update. Beyond that apt install espeakup speakup-tools. Then as root systemctl enable espeakup.service. Then reboot. To get to graphical interface run telinit 5. Need to reboot to get back to console login. Unfortunately my friend is a real picnics special and does things I do not tell him to do. He has no ubuntu iso disk and now no way to get one since he used cursor keys when editing /etc/default/grub. We were using ex not pluma since it's more reliable. On Thu, 19 Mar 2020, Andy Borka wrote: This is not the first picnics problem either. When trying a slint install he turned off the computer since he got a call from his mother and lost computer access for a year and a half. > Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2020 08:22:20 > From: Andy Borka > To: Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Re: espeakup now working in ubuntu 19.10 > > What modifications did you make to get espeakup running before boot? I also > have the problem where espeakup dies if I am signed into the graphical > desktop at the same time as a tty being signed in. > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 12:08 AM Jude DaShiell wrote: > > > It needed a few changes to /etc/default/grub then for update-grub to get > > run and now I can have orca working in ubuntu and espeakup even before > > orca gets going. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > -- > > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > > Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility > > > -- -------------- next part -------------- -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility From glennervin at cableone.net Sat Mar 21 01:33:04 2020 From: glennervin at cableone.net (Glenn K0LNY) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2020 20:33:04 -0500 Subject: difference in WI-FI between Ubuntu and windows Message-ID: <024601d5ff20$ab7c63f0$7001a8c0@NUCPPYH> Hi All, Maybe someone might shed some light on the difference and possible reasons for this situation. I have an Intel NUC 5PPYH, which has 8GB of RAM. I'm running windows 7 professional, and I also use Ubuntu 18.04 on it. It uses an Intel WIFI chip inside and recently in Windows, I have been dealing with buffering problems with iHeart radio, whether it's on my Amazon Echo or with the computer. The Echo is only about a foot away from the computer, not sure if I can change that. But when I boot to Ubuntu, the Echo works great without any of the buffering, and I get a good WIFI connection in Ubuntu, although I just haven't tried streaming iHeart with Ubuntu. And when I put Windows to sleep, the Echo does not buffer. So I think that it is either them being so close, or there's another reason why Windows isn't getting along with the Echo, and when Ubuntu works fine. They are on two different bands on my router, the Echo is on the 2ghz connection and the Intel NUC is on the 5 ghz, both in Ubuntu and windows. But I don't know why if it is the proximity, why there is no problem in Ubuntu. I did not install any drivers specifically for the WIFI, for Ubuntu, I let the Ubuntu use what it usually chooses, and the Windows I installed it from Intel's automatic driver install, which finds the right driver for your Intel product. So one would think a generic driver in Ubuntu would be worse. Glenn -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ilovecountrymusic483 at gmail.com Sat Mar 21 14:31:53 2020 From: ilovecountrymusic483 at gmail.com (matthew dyer) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2020 10:31:53 -0400 Subject: Thunderbird beta in ubuntu 19.10 Message-ID: <5CBBDFA9-5987-4304-883C-BDB41DF87F1F@gmail.com> Morn all, Yesterday I did a clean install of ubuntu 19.10 and since the stable version of thunderbird 68 does not work with gmail, I have to use the beta to get it working. I have downloaded the beta 1 of 75 which is a tar file which I extracted and setup a link to the executable file, and placed it on the desktop. Doing some searching, I found a PPA repo which apparently no longer works. Is there a repo somewhere where I can get a ubuntu version of the beta version of thunderbird? Using 19.10 as I said earlier. Thanks. Matthew From alan.pope at canonical.com Sat Mar 21 17:11:52 2020 From: alan.pope at canonical.com (Alan Pope) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2020 17:11:52 +0000 Subject: Thunderbird beta in ubuntu 19.10 In-Reply-To: <5CBBDFA9-5987-4304-883C-BDB41DF87F1F@gmail.com> References: <5CBBDFA9-5987-4304-883C-BDB41DF87F1F@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Matthew, On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 at 14:32, matthew dyer wrote: > Yesterday I did a clean install of ubuntu 19.10 and since the stable > version of thunderbird 68 does not work with gmail, I have to use the beta > to get it working. I have downloaded the beta 1 of 75 which is a tar file > which I extracted and setup a link to the executable file, and placed it > on the desktop. Doing some searching, I found a PPA repo which apparently > no longer works. Is there a repo somewhere where I can get a ubuntu > version of the beta version of thunderbird? Using 19.10 as I said > earlier. Thanks. > > There is a snap of Thunderbird, which you may want to try. https://snapcraft.io/thunderbird It is currently being maintained by the Ubuntu Desktop team, but is in the process of being handed over to the upstream Thunderbird maintainers. Maybe give that a shot. I have used it here for some months, and it worked fine on my gmail accounts. Cheers, -- Alan Pope Developer Advocate Canonical - Data Center Development +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.pope at canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From glennervin at cableone.net Fri Mar 27 00:28:07 2020 From: glennervin at cableone.net (Glenn K0LNY) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2020 19:28:07 -0500 Subject: Asus 901 Message-ID: <04d101d603ce$97045c40$7001a8c0@NUCPPYH> Hi, I have an old Asus 901 netbook, currently running Ubuntu 10.04. It seems to have issues connecting to WIFI. At any rate, I thought I'd update it to 16.04 or newer, but when I try booting to live images of 16 or 18, it looks like it booted, but there is no audio, that is, I cannot bring up Orca. It has 2 GB of RAM. Has anyone gotten later Ubuntu images to have audio on one of these little notebooks? Thanks. Glenn -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spencer.hunley at gmail.com Fri Mar 27 19:33:48 2020 From: spencer.hunley at gmail.com (Spencer Hunley) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2020 14:33:48 -0500 Subject: Asus 901 Netbook - Ubuntu-accessibility Digest, Vol 160, Issue 8 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hey Glenn, I assume you're updating to a 32-bit system on this netbook, yes? I've got one of these as well - and unfortunately I don't think there's much new development in the 32-bit, i386 space, as evidenced by this link: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2019/06/is-ubuntu-not-dropping-32-bit-app-support-after-all I've gotten Peppermint OS to work well on it, but Ubuntu was more of a struggle. It's a shame, I've had a soft spot for those netbooks for a long time. Spencer Hunley On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 7:07 AM < ubuntu-accessibility-request at lists.ubuntu.com> wrote: > Send Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list submissions to > ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > ubuntu-accessibility-request at lists.ubuntu.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > ubuntu-accessibility-owner at lists.ubuntu.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Ubuntu-accessibility digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. 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URL: From mjonsson1986 at gmail.com Tue Mar 31 20:40:57 2020 From: mjonsson1986 at gmail.com (mattias jonsson) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 22:40:57 +0200 Subject: loss of Internet Access on Ubuntu 10.04 In-Reply-To: <0e5101d6079c$40e60f80$7001a8c0@NUCPPYH> References: <0e5101d6079c$40e60f80$7001a8c0@NUCPPYH> Message-ID: <17132535fa8.274d.afbff0009b353412c733e12e23e6ae2b@gmail.com> and the nameserver are correct? Den 31 mars 2020 22:38:11 skrev "Glenn K0LNY" : > Hi, > I'm going to see if I can just upgrade this Ubuntu 10.04 on the Asus netbook. > I cannot seem to get WIFI on it, so I plugged it directly into my router > via Ethernet cable, and it still does not access any web pages using FF. > I checked to ensure the "work off line" was not checked. > So I'm wondering, when Ubuntu gets out of date, does it disable its > Internet connectivity? > Or does anyone have any ideas? > > Thanks. > > > ---------- > -- > Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list > Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alan.pope at canonical.com Tue Mar 31 20:43:27 2020 From: alan.pope at canonical.com (Alan Pope) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 21:43:27 +0100 Subject: loss of Internet Access on Ubuntu 10.04 In-Reply-To: <0e5101d6079c$40e60f80$7001a8c0@NUCPPYH> References: <0e5101d6079c$40e60f80$7001a8c0@NUCPPYH> Message-ID: Hi Glenn, On Tue, 31 Mar 2020 at 21:38, Glenn K0LNY wrote: > Hi, > I'm going to see if I can just upgrade this Ubuntu 10.04 on the Asus > netbook. > I cannot seem to get WIFI on it, so I plugged it directly into my router > via Ethernet cable, and it still does not access any web pages using FF. > I checked to ensure the "work off line" was not checked. > So I'm wondering, when Ubuntu gets out of date, does it disable its > Internet connectivity? > No, that doesn't happen intentionally > Or does anyone have any ideas? > > What's more likely is either device failure, or the forward march of progress. Newer wireless access points often drop support for older Wifi standards. 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I looked in system administration and network tools and it shows loop or something like that and eth0. There seems to be nothing available, the applications key on them do nothing and entering on them do nothing. ifconfig did not show any IP address. Thanks for any assistance. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: Glenn K0LNY To: Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 3:37 PM Subject: loss of Internet Access on Ubuntu 10.04 Hi, I'm going to see if I can just upgrade this Ubuntu 10.04 on the Asus netbook. I cannot seem to get WIFI on it, so I plugged it directly into my router via Ethernet cable, and it still does not access any web pages using FF. I checked to ensure the "work off line" was not checked. So I'm wondering, when Ubuntu gets out of date, does it disable its Internet connectivity? Or does anyone have any ideas? 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