From milton at kleinbedrijf.org Fri Jan 8 14:36:05 2021 From: milton at kleinbedrijf.org (milton) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2021 15:36:05 +0100 Subject: after updating Ubuntu 20.04.1 sound is lost Message-ID: <24fc2e5f-4694-2079-815c-b9371672e906@kleinbedrijf.org> Hi all, On a AVPlay laptop sound is lost after updating Ubuntu 20.04.1, I notice form kernel 5,4.059 to kernel 5.8.0.36. Before Orca and sounds work well. Do you know how to fix this? Thanks in advance. On another laptop Dell Latitude 5440 I met no problems with sound after updating. Milton From milton at kleinbedrijf.org Mon Jan 11 09:04:39 2021 From: milton at kleinbedrijf.org (milton) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2021 10:04:39 +0100 Subject: some problems occur with kernel 5.8 in Ubuntu Message-ID: <94bf53f8-1c91-7f42-1a6a-83890426b4c2@kleinbedrijf.org> Hi, After updating Ubuntu 20.04 I notice kernel 5.8.0.36 and causing some problems with on a HP laptop no wifi adapter found and virtualbox coming with errors. Do anybody met with such problems? On a Dell laptop I have no wifi problems only with virtualbox. To return to kernel 5.4.0.59 is no options because I then need sighted help. Any idea to solve those problems? Thanks in advance. Milton From dcrone215 at gmail.com Tue Jan 12 02:18:13 2021 From: dcrone215 at gmail.com (Daniel Crone) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2021 20:18:13 -0600 Subject: monitor needed with ubuntu Message-ID: <91D6A64B-1630-4A80-BDA5-A6AC9CE20ACC@gmail.com> For what reason will the modern ubuntu and other distributions not run properly without a monitor? Is there a way to change this? What is interesting is some distros will run without a monitor. From glennervin at cableone.net Tue Jan 12 02:22:09 2021 From: glennervin at cableone.net (Glenn K0LNY) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2021 20:22:09 -0600 Subject: monitor needed with ubuntu References: <91D6A64B-1630-4A80-BDA5-A6AC9CE20ACC@gmail.com> Message-ID: <128701d6e889$bb19eb90$7001a8c0@NUCPPYH> Hi Daniel, The ability to run without a monitor is more a function of the hardware. I'd would guess that all computers since Windows XP can boot without a monitor. One might be able to set the BIOS to require a monitor, but typically by default, all operating systems can boot headless to my knowledge. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Crone" To: Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 8:18 PM Subject: monitor needed with ubuntu For what reason will the modern ubuntu and other distributions not run properly without a monitor? Is there a way to change this? What is interesting is some distros will run without a monitor. -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility From vsmiro at seznam.cz Tue Jan 12 12:42:27 2021 From: vsmiro at seznam.cz (=?UTF-8?B?Vm9qdMSbY2ggxaFtaXJv?=) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2021 13:42:27 +0100 Subject: monitor needed with ubuntu In-Reply-To: <91D6A64B-1630-4A80-BDA5-A6AC9CE20ACC@gmail.com> References: <91D6A64B-1630-4A80-BDA5-A6AC9CE20ACC@gmail.com> Message-ID: <42e055d8-6fff-0f83-3b73-a02b3efb7d4b@seznam.cz> Hello, that's problem of Gnome, not Ubuntu itself. If you install Ubuntu Mate, you don't need monitor. I don't know why it is, but I've read on Raspberry VI list, there is some adapter, what you plug to your HDMI port and into it 3,5 mm jack and after that, system will think you have monitor and all will be without problem. Vojta. Dne 12. 01. 21 v 3:18 Daniel Crone napsal(a): > For what reason will the modern ubuntu and other distributions not run properly without a monitor? > Is there a way to change this? > What is interesting is some distros will run without a monitor. > From vsmiro at seznam.cz Tue Jan 12 14:24:43 2021 From: vsmiro at seznam.cz (=?UTF-8?B?Vm9qdMSbY2ggxaFtaXJv?=) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2021 15:24:43 +0100 Subject: monitor needed with ubuntu In-Reply-To: <44000A12-D9AA-4829-8E18-79E65B24B7E6@gmail.com> References: <91D6A64B-1630-4A80-BDA5-A6AC9CE20ACC@gmail.com> <42e055d8-6fff-0f83-3b73-a02b3efb7d4b@seznam.cz> <44000A12-D9AA-4829-8E18-79E65B24B7E6@gmail.com> Message-ID: <76afb4df-1c84-7a19-27f6-aaff73f431cb@seznam.cz> Hello, on which device you install Ubuntu Mate? Have you Ubuntu Mate image? I don't recommend you to install mate to Gnome version. Best regards Vojta. Daniel Crone wrote: > Which version of mate? > Wen attempting installation with ubuntu mate 2004, it would lok up at a certain point. > I remember I could not get past the language list. > >> On Jan 12, 2021, at 6:42 AM, Vojtěch šmiro wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> that's problem of Gnome, not Ubuntu itself. If you install Ubuntu Mate, you don't need monitor. I don't know why it is, but I've read on Raspberry VI list, there is some adapter, what you plug to your HDMI port and into it 3,5 mm jack and after that, system will think you have monitor and all will be without problem. >> >> Vojta. >> >> Dne 12. 01. 21 v 3:18 Daniel Crone napsal(a): >>> For what reason will the modern ubuntu and other distributions not run properly without a monitor? >>> Is there a way to change this? >>> What is interesting is some distros will run without a monitor. >> -- >> Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list >> Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility From vsmiro at seznam.cz Tue Jan 12 17:53:02 2021 From: vsmiro at seznam.cz (=?UTF-8?B?Vm9qdMSbY2ggxaFtaXJv?=) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2021 18:53:02 +0100 Subject: monitor needed with ubuntu In-Reply-To: <748B92C0-79D5-4042-8501-308EE3BB9E71@gmail.com> References: <91D6A64B-1630-4A80-BDA5-A6AC9CE20ACC@gmail.com> <42e055d8-6fff-0f83-3b73-a02b3efb7d4b@seznam.cz> <44000A12-D9AA-4829-8E18-79E65B24B7E6@gmail.com> <76afb4df-1c84-7a19-27f6-aaff73f431cb@seznam.cz> <748B92C0-79D5-4042-8501-308EE3BB9E71@gmail.com> Message-ID: It might work. I use it without Monitor on tower and works fine. And on Raspberry Pi too. Vojta. Daniel Crone wrote: > I have a drive which I will use for mate. > The machine is a tower. > The image which will be used is mate 20.04. > If that will not work, I will use an older version. > >> On Jan 12, 2021, at 8:24 AM, Vojtěch šmiro wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> on which device you install Ubuntu Mate? Have you Ubuntu Mate image? I don't recommend you to install mate to Gnome version. >> >> Best regards >> >> Vojta. >> >> Daniel Crone wrote: >>> Which version of mate? >>> Wen attempting installation with ubuntu mate 2004, it would lok up at a certain point. >>> I remember I could not get past the language list. >>> >>>> On Jan 12, 2021, at 6:42 AM, Vojtěch šmiro wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> that's problem of Gnome, not Ubuntu itself. If you install Ubuntu Mate, you don't need monitor. I don't know why it is, but I've read on Raspberry VI list, there is some adapter, what you plug to your HDMI port and into it 3,5 mm jack and after that, system will think you have monitor and all will be without problem. >>>> >>>> Vojta. >>>> >>>> Dne 12. 01. 21 v 3:18 Daniel Crone napsal(a): >>>>> For what reason will the modern ubuntu and other distributions not run properly without a monitor? >>>>> Is there a way to change this? >>>>> What is interesting is some distros will run without a monitor. >>>> -- >>>> Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list >>>> Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com >>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility >> >> -- >> Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list >> Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility From jdashiel at panix.com Tue Jan 12 17:58:39 2021 From: jdashiel at panix.com (Jude DaShiell) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2021 12:58:39 -0500 Subject: monitor needed with ubuntu In-Reply-To: References: <91D6A64B-1630-4A80-BDA5-A6AC9CE20ACC@gmail.com> <42e055d8-6fff-0f83-3b73-a02b3efb7d4b@seznam.cz> <44000A12-D9AA-4829-8E18-79E65B24B7E6@gmail.com> <76afb4df-1c84-7a19-27f6-aaff73f431cb@seznam.cz> <748B92C0-79D5-4042-8501-308EE3BB9E71@gmail.com> Message-ID: It will probably be helpful to study ubuntu boot parameters. In those one may find something like --monitor=none or --monitor=dummy. If available, a little configuration of grub and update of grub ought to solve this problem. On Tue, 12 Jan 2021, Vojt?ch ?miro wrote: > It might work. I use it without Monitor on tower and works fine. And on > Raspberry Pi too. > > Vojta. > > Daniel Crone wrote: >> I have a drive which I will use for mate. >> The machine is a tower. >> The image which will be used is mate 20.04. >> If that will not work, I will use an older version. >> >>> On Jan 12, 2021, at 8:24 AM, Vojt?ch ?miro wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> on which device you install Ubuntu Mate? Have you Ubuntu Mate image? I >>> don't recommend you to install mate to Gnome version. >>> >>> Best regards >>> >>> Vojta. >>> >>> Daniel Crone wrote: >>>> Which version of mate? >>>> Wen attempting installation with ubuntu mate 2004, it would lok up at a >>>> certain point. >>>> I remember I could not get past the language list. >>>> >>>>> On Jan 12, 2021, at 6:42 AM, Vojt?ch ?miro wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> that's problem of Gnome, not Ubuntu itself. If you install Ubuntu Mate, >>>>> you don't need monitor. I don't know why it is, but I've read on >>>>> Raspberry VI list, there is some adapter, what you plug to your HDMI >>>>> port and into it 3,5 mm jack and after that, system will think you have >>>>> monitor and all will be without problem. >>>>> >>>>> Vojta. >>>>> >>>>> Dne 12. 01. 21 v 3:18 Daniel Crone napsal(a): >>>>>> For what reason will the modern ubuntu and other distributions not run >>>>>> properly without a monitor? >>>>>> Is there a way to change this? >>>>>> What is interesting is some distros will run without a monitor. >>>>> -- >>>>> Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list >>>>> Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com >>>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility >>> >>> -- >>> Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list >>> Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility > > > From vsmiro at seznam.cz Tue Jan 19 15:15:22 2021 From: vsmiro at seznam.cz (=?UTF-8?B?Vm9qdMSbY2ggxaFtaXJv?=) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2021 16:15:22 +0100 Subject: Orca strange behavior in Ubuntu and RPi Message-ID: <34102e05-7929-7027-c635-700f83f5a977@seznam.cz> Hello, I would like to inform you about some curious behavior of sound in Ubuntu Mate 20.04 in Raspberry Pi 4B 4 GB and 2 GB. If you don't like workarounds, this is not for you, (smile). I and my friend Libor have to use external sound card if we wanted to use Ubuntu. Libor found this curious behavior on Sunday. He allowed internal sound card and restarted computer. The system loaded loudly and sometimes volumed down a few percents, but not muted and Orca had sore throat. Libor turned Orca off and played some music with VLC for minute or two, better is two minutes in his 2 GB RPi. In my Raspberry Pi 4 GB it didn't work, but he found, due I have many profiles in Orca, I have to play music over four minutes. but at the end of the music, we turned Orca on again and we can use it without Orca's sore throats. It's really interresting. Why is this? During music play the sound is up, sometimes down like if you have problems with your cassette. But now Ubuntu is quicker and my RPi isn't so hot like with external sound card. Best regards Vojta. From dcrone215 at gmail.com Fri Jan 22 19:41:05 2021 From: dcrone215 at gmail.com (Daniel Crone) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2021 13:41:05 -0600 Subject: renaming many files Message-ID: <1C57EDD3-A7F9-4B43-AD93-3481B1B15C76@gmail.com> I have many files in one directory which have the same two words in the beginning of the name. renewal talk 01 eating better renewal talk 02 exercise and so on. With the command line, is there a way of getting rid of ‘renewal talk’ for all files and keeping the other words in their names? From glennervin at cableone.net Tue Jan 26 20:15:14 2021 From: glennervin at cableone.net (Glenn K0LNY) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2021 14:15:14 -0600 Subject: Orca Not Working For Some Reason On Skywave Linux Message-ID: <00f801d6f41f$f558a840$7001a8c0@NUCPPYH> Hi All, I'm hoping some of you might have some ideas for me to try getting Orca going on Skywave Linux. https://skywavelinux.com/ Skywave Linux is an image of Ubuntu with the mate desktop and i3 window manager, whatever that is. Here's what it reads on that page about that: "Skywave Linux is a 64 bit system, built on a base of Ubuntu 20.04 LTS, uses the MATE Desktop and i3 Window Manager. It is the additional digital signal processing, networking, and signal decoding applications that set Skywave Linux apart from its original base software." When I installed onto a thumb drive, I got as far as getting espeak to say something, but spd-say hasn't worked. This is on a VmWare session. I've done apt update and apt install gnome-orca and apt install speech-dispatcher and apt install alsa-base pulseaudio and apt install speakup. Of course I used sudo and I did them successively, when I couldn't get anything else to work, I would try one, and test for TTS, and then try the next, and so on. The command speaker-test -c 2 does give me the white sound, so I know that the speakers aren't muted. Also, I'm wondering if this distro has removed a repository that might be needed for my installs. When I was doing all this on the thumb drive, I was able to SSH into it from my Raspberry PI and I heard it reading out something about some things not in this repository. Would it be a bad idea to add a main repository where all the packages I need to get it talking are located? If there is a chance, what is the repository where I can get either all that Orca needs, or regular Ubuntu packages? Since I'm doing all this without feedback, I am hoping it won't be too long a command for the repository. The VmWare install so far has not opened itself to SSH, so that is why I have to do this without speech output. I've done the sudo add-apt-repository command in the past, so I'm somewhat familiar with adding a repository. Thanks for any help. Glenn -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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