From dcrone215 at gmail.com Thu Jul 17 18:58:39 2025 From: dcrone215 at gmail.com (Daniel Crone) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2025 13:58:39 -0500 Subject: ubuntu on pi 4 Message-ID: With the help of be my eyes, I put ubuntu on a pi 4. Then ran update and upgrade with terminal. I put the mate desktop on it, and had to choose between gdm 3 and light dm. I chose light dm, then restarted. When restarting, the drums were there, which had not been so before. But no matter what, orca would not talk until after logging in. Because there was no talking at log in, I cannot choose mate. What I hope to do is to put fenrir or speakup on this system and find a way to start in the console. I want to then start gnome or mate, one or the other when I like. I welcome any advice you can give. From jackson.rodney.1970 at gmail.com Thu Jul 17 20:23:03 2025 From: jackson.rodney.1970 at gmail.com (rodney jackson) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2025 15:23:03 -0500 Subject: ubuntu on pi 4 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Daniel, I not sure why but on some systems like my Arch system lightdm could not get it to speak at the login. some googled how to install the GDM instead and rebooted and i did have speech at login and was able to login with no issues.  not sure why some people have issue with lightdm and others do not. maybe look up how to install and switch to GDM for ubuntu and see if that works better. Rodney On 7/17/2025 1:58 PM, Daniel Crone wrote: > With the help of be my eyes, I put ubuntu on a pi 4. > Then ran update and upgrade with terminal. > I put the mate desktop on it, and had to choose between gdm 3 and light dm. > I chose light dm, then restarted. > When restarting, the drums were there, which had not been so before. > But no matter what, orca would not talk until after logging in. > Because there was no talking at log in, I cannot choose mate. > What I hope to do is to put fenrir or speakup on this system and find a way to start in the console. > I want to then start gnome or mate, one or the other when I like. > I welcome any advice you can give. From kyle at gmx.it Fri Jul 18 03:28:17 2025 From: kyle at gmx.it (Kyle) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2025 23:28:17 -0400 Subject: ubuntu on pi 4 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5eb899b3-618a-4348-ba27-df513e962e53@gmx.it> Lightdm needs the slick greeter in order to work correctly with Orca. I believe Ubuntu may be using the gtk greeter, which requires manually editing a configuration file in order to get the screen reader talking, unless they fixed that in Ubuntu. I know there is a long-standing Launchpad bug for this. if alt+super+s doesn't start Orca at the lightdm screen as expected, it is starting lightdm-gtk-greeter rather than lightdm-slick-greeter. Perhaps the easiest way to fix this would be via ssh, running something like sudo apt install lightdm-slick-greeter sudo apt remove lightdm-gtk-greeter Hope this helps. ~Kyle