Wireless @ Beaumont st

[Glenn Davy]

On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 09:44:55 pm Daniel Nixon wrote:
> I met with the VP of the Hamilton Business Committee this afternoon
> and it turns out that the redirecting loop you're describing is a
> problem with the website, independent of the wireless. We encountered
> it on Opera/Nokia N800, IE7/WinXP and Firefox/WinXP.

Mixing it with the big kids!

>
> It sounds to me like other than that you've managed to get connected.
> I'd love to know what I'm doing wrong... In particular spots up and
> down the street I was able to see the AP with:
> "sudo iwlist eth1 scanning" and "sudo airodump-ng eth1"
>
> however neither
> "sudo iwconfig eth1 ap xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx" or
> "sudo iwconfig eth1 essid "wireless at beaumont"" seemed to work. They
> both run immediately and silently. Not sure if that's a good sign or
> bad.seems to help.

THats a good sign - its when they complain you've got an issue. Did you 
remember to "sudo dhclient eth1"  afterwards?


>
> The AP was showing up in network manager most of the time, trying to
> select it didn't work. Trying to manually connect to
> "wireless at beaumont" in network manager didn't work either.

I'll probably be bannded forever for saying this, but in my limited 
experience, NetworkManager is a mixed blessing. I've found that when its good 
its very very good and when its bad its horrid. - At one point i couldnt get 
anyting to work (sitting at the euro cafe, even though i had a few cells with 
78 - 80% strength) - I killed network manager and it all came good.  I dont 
*know that network manager was in the road, but if its not solving my 
problems i kill it and ensure its out of the road  - again talking from 
ignorance as I dont really understand it, but _seems _to help at times

>
> Here are some /var/log/syslog snippets from network manager connection
> attempts that might help you help me ;-)
>
> http://pastebin.com/m71242b64
> http://pastebin.com/m726e89c

looked thorugh these - and as mentioned above, i dont know enough about 
network manager to really translate it, htough the mention of the AP that was 
blacklisted was interesting (as i remember the number as being one of the 
hamilton ap's) - but again i dont pretend to know enough to interpret these 
logs.

lemee know what happens when you follow up iwconfig eth1 essid  
wireless at beaumont (i didnt use quote marks, but shouldnt make difference) 
then dhclient eth1

then use ifconfig to see if you got an address. You wont be able to ping 
things, but you'll see if you get an address. If you have you'll be able to 
say ping abc.net.au, and get an ip back, but no packets.  However if they 
give you a 10.0.12.? address, you wont be able to see their name server, 
(10.0.13.254) until you manually reconstruct the routing table. dunno if 
thats a network manger issue, or their dhcp configuration - at least that 
seemed to be case for me. If you get a 10.0.13.? address, you should be able 
to use nslookup to query for an ip address.  Getting further than that is 
really not an option until they sort out their redirection loop onthe proxy 
login.

best of luck - let me know what you learn
glenn
>
> On 8/13/07, Glenn Davy <glenn at tangelosoftware.net> wrote:
> > just as a follow up, i noticed there was also a redirection to another
> > site (if you browse  pages source, you'll see it) - i tried to manually
> > go to that page but it times out, also the terms and conditions page is
> > missing on the hamiltontown.com.. the link to the log in page there times
> > out too - so perhaps that more to do with things than an IE preference.
> > Having said that i say another guy about with a laptop on line outside
> > the pub - hopefully will get to try more this arvo
> >
> > glenn
> >
> > On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 11:18:15 am Cefiar wrote:
> > > On Monday 13 August 2007 10:49:55 Glenn Davy wrote:
> > > > The big catch is however.... after making the connection you can ping
> > > > or connect to anything outside without starting a web browser and
> > > > logging on to get let through their proxy. sounds reasonable, but I
> > > > couldnt do that, I got caught in an infinte loop of page redirects.
> > > > i.e. i'd try to browse to mywebsite.info, and get redirected to
> > > > http://hamiltontown.com/ But because I wasn't logged in i'd get
> > > > redirected to
> > > > http://hamiltontown.com/WIFI/index.html which would fail and redirect
> > > > me back to hamiltontown.com and so back to /WIFI/index.html, and so
> > > > on and on - i found this with Firefox and Konqueror. Im guessing tis
> > > > written for IE?
> > > >
> > > > anyhow though i'd share the experience and find out if anyones had
> > > > any luck or knows where to go from here? I might get IE setup with
> > > > wine and give it another try l8r
> > >
> > > The Wine idea is a good one.
> > >
> > > You might also try going to https://hamiltontown.com/ and seeing if
> > > that works and/or is any better.
> > >
> > > Another thing to try:
> > >
> > > https://user:pass@hamiltontown.com/ (or http if you don't mind the
> > > password going in the clear or there is no other way). No idea if this
> > > will work, but hey, it's worth a shot.
> > >
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> > >  Stuart Young - aka Cefiar - cef at optus.net
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