[Fwd: Re: What VM technology to use?]

Cary Bielenberg cary at bielenberg.id.au
Wed Aug 13 12:34:28 BST 2008



Daniel Mons wrote:
> Cary Bielenberg wrote:
>   
>> I guess the main problem from my perspective is documentation & "spit & 
>> polish" of Xen & KVM makes it hard if you only administer 10 odd 
>> machines, It's ok if you eat sleep & breath these apps but to the 
>> sysadmins who have to multi skill it is almost prohibitive to setup. 
>> What I'm trying to say is Vmware is bundled so that it is easy to 
>> implement! I want to use open source solutions & am sceptical of 
>> commercial companies who have "free" & commercial offerings. I want to 
>> try the alternatives but to say the least KVM is a pig to implement 
>> considering *buntu has made this the default. I googled for how to's but 
>> there was a fair bit of ambiguity & confusion in the implementation. 
>>
>>     
>
> I'm struggling to understand why you consider it "a pig" to use these 
> things.
>
> Virt-install and virt-manager make installing VMs about as easy as 
> falling off a log.  And if you insist on pretty pictures, OVirt is for you:
> http://www.ovirt.org/
>
> If you only need desktop virtualisation (not server side stuff), then 
> use something more purpose-fit like VirtualBox (also free):
> http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Screenshots
>
> Honestly, if the only thing holding you to VMWare is a pretty GUI, get 
> out there and check out the competition.  VMWare is fast becoming 
> redundant due to their technology rapidly becoming commoditised.
>
> ArsTechnica have a marvellous write up on the situation:
> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080711-a-victim-of-its-own-success-troubled-times-ahead-for-vmware.html
>
> VMWare's glory days are long gone, and they face stiff competition from 
> a rising number of free competitors.  Even if you live and breathe 
> VMWare, my suggestion to you is to at least learn an alternative before 
> VMWare vanish for good.  :)
>
> -Dan
>
>   
My references to it being a pig to install is borne out of frustration, 
I didn't articulate my feelings well! What I was trying to say is that 
unless you are dedicated to learning the intricacies of the software it 
is a struggle to grasp & install. I have about 25 servers to install & 
maintain & because virtualization is not my core duties it is easy to 
install a more intuitive app like Vmware. That does not mean that I 
think it is better, but because I can get it to work it triumphs on my 
network :-( I will use a open source alternative an day of the week If I 
can get it to work & get comfortable with the app.



Cary
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