Anyone having issues installing 12.04?

[Chris Robinson]

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 From: Stephen Rees-Carter <stephen at rees-carter.net>
To: Chris Robinson <fabricator4 at yahoo.com> 
Cc: Ubuntu AU List <ubuntu-au at lists.ubuntu.com> 
Sent: Friday, 3 February 2012 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: Anyone having issues installing 12.04?
 
> I don't think it's a bug - I think someones actually thought it through
> (fingers crossed).  I think I'll make an effort to verify this next time I
> do a test install.

>Um... it hangs and cannot proceed any further than that message. I've
>left my machine sitting on it for an hour or two, and nothing has
>happened.
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Sorry, I missed that.  Serves me right for reading email during lunch break on the 9" Asus screen and starting from the middle of a conversation...

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>It sounds like a really useful feature, given what you've said about
>it. Maybe the problem in my case is that my user folder(s) are all
>Encrypted?
>Maybe it's hanging because of that, but I've never had the issue
>before and I've been using Encrypted home directories for years.
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Actually, yes I can see how that would be a problem, in which case it is indeed a bug if it's not able to handle it a bit more gracefully.  It won't be able to do what it needs to do with the encrypted partition, but it shouldn't come to a screaming halt either.

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> By the way, literally doing an install "over the top of" without formating
> is a legitimate and useful option for people now.

>I haven't tried that option in ages. When I first used it, it always
>broke, so I've been doing the clean install trick ever since.
>Also, I kinda like having a clean and fresh install every couple of
>months. I have a script which installs all my programs and such so I
>can easily restore my machine to the same state it was in before I did
>the clean install (assuming my home directory is still in tact).
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I've seen it fail here, with 11.04 I think it was.  I've found that it can be a great way to recover a system for non-technical users who have a default single partition install - I do suggest it if other fixes a proving too difficult over the forums or Launchpad Q.  Of course you tell them to back up data first just in case but I have to wonder how many of them actually do.  After all, they just tried to upgrade their systems on line without backing up (usually) and are in the jam because someone pulled the power cord out before it was finished.

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>To tell you the truth, I've been having so many issues with 12.04.
>It's looking the opposite of "super stable" that everyone is going on
>about - although a couple of them are issues with my Thinkpad L520 and
>the kernel not supporting Sandybridge.
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Well it's not just you, they've dropped some real clangers early on.  I don't think 12.04 is that stable overall yet, and "super stable" doesn't seem to be the best way to describe it.  Some bits are great and I really do think they are on the way to a good LTS release.  I already think it's faster than 11.10 by a long way, even with all the debug symbols still being part of the compile etc and I'm looking forward to see how the final release goes.  I'd only recommend the 12.04 alpha to the seasoned tester at this point however.  I have a test install that that was only installed off the alpha 1 image on day one and it's had nothing but updates ever since.  The fact that it's still working and still updating is more a matter of good luck than masterful management on my part.  If I'm feeling bit clever because I just fixed it (again) I normally only have to wait for the next update to bring me back to reality.  I have to configure Xorg manually
 because I'm running two systems through a KVM switch, and it's give me a really challenge on a couple of occasions - they seem to be playing around with Xorg quite a bit.

Chris
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