[Ubuntu-BD] Ubuntu 8.10 Intrepid Ibex released

Mohammad Bhuyan nuxser at gmail.com
Thu Oct 30 22:57:25 GMT 2008


On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Omi Azad <me at omiazad.net> wrote:
> most of the applications of the planet sux on x64 in the present time.

The "sux" because they are 32-Bit apps running in compatibility mode
on a 64-bit platfrom.

So it's not the 64Bit platfrom which is at fault here.

As you have already mentioned, until there is a  complete 64Bit
ecosystem  (64 bit HW platfroms and Apps developed/compiled targeting
that platform) we will not see the benefit clearly.

But the straight cut benefit of 64 Bit computing regarding large
memory access and complex calculation capability is already in
mainstream use. Those apps are seldom required in home computing thus
most of the end users not seeing the 64 bit advantages over
traditional 32 bit.

Just to make an example, one of our supercomputers (a mini one with 64
cores and 256 GB RAM) runs lots of brain image processing
(Neuroimaging). Many of the time that calculation involves having 30 -
50 brain scan images to be available in memory where each image is
more than 250 MB. Now for ideal speedup of the calculation you would
want all those images to be loaded in RAM at the same time so the
calculation runs faster. That's it! 32Bit memory address scheme fails
to deliver that. So here, 64 bit is not "better", it is the "only
option".


> I found people just port x86
> applications for x64 (hey x86 looks higher than x64, LOL), but they
> never change the core engine, which they should.
>
> Even latest version of Microsoft Office runs as in compatibility mode on
> a x64 platform. That sux!
>
> The pure x64 platform of the platen is OS X. Even their applications are
> awesome. To keep supporting x64, Apple is discontinuing Cocoa platform,
> which still supports x86. Companies like Adobe would get into trouble,
> as they have a large number of users and future version of OS X will not
> be able to run present Adobe apps if they don't change their platform soon.
>
> Cheers!
>
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>
> On 10/31/2008 3:35 AM, Saady Amin wrote:
>> Thanks for the quick reply!
>>
>> As I am a Structural Engineer, I need to use applications (ETABS, SAP2000,
>> STAAD.PRO, etc.) which are sadly only available in Windows and does not
>> run properly under Wine.
>>
>> Moreover, Finite Element solvers that these applications employ seem to
>> run faster in 64 bit Windows.
>>
>> However, I am an open source enthusiast willing to try different flavors.
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Omi Azad"<me at omiazad.net>
>> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 3:08 AM
>> To: "Ubuntu Bangladesh"<ubuntu-bd at lists.ubuntu.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-BD] Ubuntu 8.10 Intrepid Ibex released
>>
>>
>>> Why do you like to use x64? Don't you think they sux? Even Windows
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/31/2008 2:03 AM, Saady Amin wrote:
>>>
>>>> উবুন্টু ৮.১০ (৬৪বিট) সিডি ভার্সন টরেন্ট ব্যবহার করছি ডাউনলোড করছি। আজ
>>>> রাতেই
>>>> হয়ে যাবে
>>>> বলে আশা করছি (২৫-৩০ কেবিপিস স্পিড পাচ্ছি)।  অতিতে দুই বার টরেন্ট ব্যবহার
>>>> করে
>>>> সাফল্যের সাথে উবুন্টু
>>>> ডাউনলোড করেছি।
>>>>
>>>> উইন্ডোজ ভিসতা (৬৪বিট) এর সাথে মাল্টিবুটে ইন্সটল করার ইচ্ছা আছে। যাই হোক
>>>> দেখা
>>>> যাক কি হয়!
>>>>
>>>> অফিসিয়াল টরেন্ট এর লিংক টা পাঠালাম [উবুন্টু ৮.১০ (৬৪বিট) সিডি ভার্সন]:
>>>>
>>>> http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/ubuntu-8.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
>>>>
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