[Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu life in Belgium
tom verlinden
tom.verlinden at gmail.com
Fri May 9 08:41:59 UTC 2014
A virtual meeting will do fine for me. Much easier to attend also. Now we
need to know who will participate and on wich platform we'll be gathering.
Maybe have a dry run a day or two in advance, to make sure everything runs
smoothly.
Op 9 mei 2014 09:37 schreef "Merlijn Sebrechts" <merlijn.sebrechts op gmail.com
>:
> This date works for me, but since the others can't come... The weekends
> around that time will be a problem for me too. I have finals till the 17 th
> of June.
>
> I propose we do a virtual meeting on that day, and do an IRL meeting after
> my finals, in a weekend?
> Op 6 mei 2014 19:04 schreef "kawabill" <kawabill op telenet.be>:
>
>> How could we best get together;
>> 2) The core-team members proposed, let me know who disagrees or cannot
>> pick up;
>> a) kawabill
>> b) nero
>> c) Frank Neirynck
>> d) Tom Verlinden
>> e) Jan Bongaerts
>> f) Merlijn Sebrechts
>> g) Alain Daudrez
>>
>> You are all invited to come to Houthalen on May 27th. Would this work for
>> all of you?
>>
>> Rg
>> William
>>
>> On 03-05-14 21:11, Merlijn Sebrechts wrote:
>>
>> Why not use them all? There are enough applications out there that let
>> you post on multiple social media all at once...
>>
>> On a side note: I'm making a diaspora* node for hackerspace ghent. When
>> it's finished, I'll also make an ubuntu-be group there, so we can hang out
>> on our own, open source, trustable, distributed social platform...
>>
>>
>> 2014-05-03 12:54 GMT+02:00 Alain Baudrez <a.baudrez op gmail.com>:
>>
>>> I just had a look at the ubuntu-be page on Google+ -
>>> https://plus.google.com/112197959490301022128/about?hl=nl - it is idle.
>>> Even if we don't have the possibility to modify our website in the near
>>> future, we could at least use the events options of our Google+ page to
>>> announce what we plan to do.
>>>
>>> Same goes for our FB page -
>>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/87950312093/ . There is a bit more
>>> 'life' in the FB group, but nothing spectacular.
>>>
>>> I noticed quite a lot op webpages like '10 things to do after
>>> installing ubuntu 14.04'. We could at least translate (some of) those pages
>>> into Dutch and French and post them on those two social media, It would be
>>> a start.
>>>
>>> The main problem I see is which one we will be using.
>>> With the 'rumours' of Google eventually downsizing or shutting down
>>> their G+ social network, and on the other side some users not trusting
>>> Facebook, which way must we go?
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-05-03 11:29 GMT+02:00 Duray Pol <duraypol op gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> Le 02/05/2014 14:26, Luc Rulkin a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> Goede middag .
>>>>
>>>> Een klein vraagje , van iemand die een paar jaar terug al een vraag
>>>> stelde op t forum , zonder antwoord ..
>>>> zeggen jullie nu : "wij zijn op stervens na dood ... ga naar Ubuntu.nl
>>>> of Ubuntu.fr ?".
>>>> Is er een franstalige kant van ubuntu.be ? Anders ga ik daar eens
>>>> vragen wat ik kan doen.
>>>> (oude acer met Vista Profess. zou ik willen proberen op Ubuntu)(ik ben
>>>> geen It'er en heb wat aanwijzingen nodig)
>>>>
>>>> C'est tout !!
>>>>
>>>> MIVG Luc R
>>>>
>>>> Luc Rulkin
>>>> Bergstraat 6
>>>> B 9630 St Marie Latem (Zwalm)
>>>>
>>>> There is nothing worse than being talked about, that is not being
>>>> talked about.
>>>> (O Wilde)
>>>> On Friday, 2 May 2014, 12:25, tom verlinden
>>>> <tom.verlinden op gmail.com> <tom.verlinden op gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Bill's proposal looks mighty fine to me. I'll get my thinking cap on
>>>> and see what i an come up with. Anybody having a problem with bill's
>>>> proposal?
>>>> Op 2 mei 2014 06:36 schreef "Jurgen Gaeremyn" <
>>>> jurgen.gaeremyn op pandora.be>:
>>>>
>>>> I think any of the hackerspaces will be willing to accomodate...
>>>> people living near train stations on our group might too...
>>>>
>>>> Possibly I can't be available myself (wife is pregnant and due for June
>>>> 4th) but I'm pretty sure Hackerspace Brussels (hackerspace.be) would
>>>> be glad to offer you a chair in the space or the garden...
>>>>
>>>> Grtz,
>>>> Jurgen.
>>>>
>>>> On 01-05-14 23:08, Jan Bongaerts wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Real life meeting should still take preference over virtual meeting,
>>>> if you ask me.
>>>> It's not all that hard to organise. Jurgen did it, I did it. They were
>>>> all successful.
>>>> Just get to somewhere easily accessible by public transport.
>>>> Brussels is the best.
>>>> Antwerp or Ghent might be a good option.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 1 May 2014 22:51, Merlijn Sebrechts <merlijn.sebrechts op gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>> aa) I can help with the website. I now a tiny bit of Drupal. If
>>>> somebody can give me the right credentials, I could take a look at it next
>>>> week. Mike Morraye knows more about the website, I think.
>>>> cc) same as aa)
>>>> ee) I think Google Hangouts is the best free option. If somebody has a
>>>> sip server, we could also use a sip client like jitsi.org, which has
>>>> excellent Ubuntu support.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for doing this wake-up call, kawabill!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2014-05-01 21:40 GMT+02:00 kawabill <kawabill op telenet.be>:
>>>>
>>>> Hey I'm not alone on the island....! :)
>>>>
>>>> Tom, you're right I think and I agree. It is not somebody we need, it
>>>> is us. Also Juergen's proposal for having Ubuntu-be.org and setting clear
>>>> expectations I agree with, this way we can prevent disappointment from and
>>>> by others. Carrying Ubuntu-be to the funeral I would think is just a bit
>>>> too early. From the reactions, at least 5-10 people are actively involved
>>>> and able to help.
>>>>
>>>> Using IRC is maybe just a little too much written words and I've got no
>>>> clue how to get it to work reliably, I think we need to get together or at
>>>> least get visual. For getting together there is the hacker space, the
>>>> facilities in Houthalen an hack - even an old school room in Bree. Is there
>>>> an open source alternative to Skype, allowing for a virtual meeting maybe
>>>> (I saw Apache's Open Meeting)? Or what if we organise a chat/video
>>>> conference from the 'local' events; Houthalen in Limburg, Hackerspace,
>>>> Brugge - can we organize it maybe in such a way that it's all in sync; ie.
>>>> every last Wednesday of the month (convenient for LImburg, as this is the
>>>> gathering date already)?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1) Do you want to help set up a booth at fosdem 2015? YES, if we can
>>>> plan ahead I would think we can get the right and motivated people involved
>>>> including this chap
>>>> 2) Do you still use the website? If so, how? YES, but let's indeed
>>>> make it such that people see activity - starting with filling the agenda
>>>> showing the local activities for example
>>>> 3) What information would you want to see on the new website? Haven't
>>>> really given it a thought, but one thing for sure I would like to see and
>>>> that is UP TO DATE information
>>>>
>>>> Let's keep the ideas coming, I think getting around the bank account
>>>> quickly is indeed opening a new one, and make it one that we can access and
>>>> at least have some kind of redundancy. This as not to get stuck again.
>>>>
>>>> I have to read and negotiate contracts all day, it would really be good
>>>> if we could talk to each other, preferably face to face. This way we
>>>> iterate in seconds rather than weeks.
>>>>
>>>> Finally; let's get the link into Canonical established and
>>>> strengthened. I work for a large company and quite a large bunch is
>>>> starting to use Ubuntu also on the desktop. Ubuntu Phone is a great idea
>>>> and has huge potential, especially for cost savings. I checked how I could
>>>> get our purchasing in contact easily, but believe me, Canonical is not
>>>> going to sell the idea if they stick to how they have approached this up to
>>>> now. I would think, certainly in Europe, they have a wide enough network
>>>> of enthusiasts and could easily bundle the network to get aggressive into
>>>> offering savings to large and medium size companies. As far as I'm
>>>> concerned I use the software that they have ubuntu-ed, it is this creation
>>>> that binds us - the reason why I spend my time locally to help people is
>>>> for ubuntu, and also as a kind of payback to Canonical because they have
>>>> created a magnificent piece of software. Not only them, but they are for me
>>>> one of the main forces behind humanizing Linux! Credit to Mark Shuttleworth
>>>> for all that. Taking Ubuntu-be to the graveyard doesn't seem the best way
>>>> to help and show a kind of gratitude.
>>>>
>>>> Too many words written already, and hail to he/she who came to this
>>>> point. How to go forward? Let's use 8D methodology and get this going.
>>>> 1) Plan - revive Ubuntu-be and prevent it from going quiet again
>>>> 2) The core-team members proposed, let me know who disagrees or cannot
>>>> pick up;
>>>> a) kawabill
>>>> b) nero
>>>> c) Frank Neirynck
>>>> d) Tom Verlinden
>>>> e) Jan Bongaerts
>>>> f) Merlijn Sebrechts
>>>> g) Alain Daudrez
>>>> 3) The problem; Ubuntu-be is dying
>>>> 4) Temporary fix;
>>>> aa) website is not upto date (whom can take action and when?)
>>>> bb) bank account needs to be corrected (to open a new one I can
>>>> pick up the action and can have it done within two weeks, with regards to
>>>> the old one whom can get the responsible person to help organize it such
>>>> that we have multiple Ubuntu-ers to get access and when?)
>>>> cc) support point map - remove ghost accounts and update or allow
>>>> for updated information (whom can take action and when?)
>>>> dd) Limburg event box - Wouter, please drop me an e-mail where I
>>>> can come and pick it up and get it into my storage garage)
>>>> ee) Setup a web-meeting last Wednesday of May (May 28th), we can
>>>> use Skype, Google hangout or maybe someone can help build Open Meeting for
>>>> Ubuntu (I don't mind planning and coordinating, whom can help setup the
>>>> technical side of it all, Nero???)
>>>>
>>>> Let's get this going before we start root-cause analysis, and when need
>>>> please team up where you can. Myself I'm not really good at using Drupal,
>>>> I've build my own in HTML, but I sure could help cleaning up and updating.
>>>>
>>>> Your comments please?
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 01-05-14 12:39, tom verlinden wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your info on this. I've always thought that this certain
>>>> "somebody" should comprise out of more than one person. One person can't
>>>> take this on his or her shoulders. There's too much, from what i'm reading,
>>>> for one person to do and be succesfull about it. There should be a team of
>>>> somebodies, all doing somewhat the same, but in different locations. (Does
>>>> that make sense?) Is there a need for a central organ? To me that makes it
>>>> too complicated already, and might create expectations, that cannot be
>>>> fullfilled. Anyway, there's need, i guess to promote ubuntu, as Bill said.
>>>> Now we have to figure out how to do this in a fun way, i guess.
>>>> Op 1 mei 2014 12:27 schreef "Jurgen Gaeremyn" <
>>>> jurgen.gaeremyn op pandora.be>:
>>>>
>>>> Tom,
>>>>
>>>> the strongest periods of Ubuntu-be were when one single person actually
>>>> kept his shoulders under the project. In the past we had a few of these
>>>> people. Thing is: ubuntu-be.org should set clear expectations: what
>>>> (not) to expect: a spokesman, the official stance of Ubuntu on whatever
>>>> Belgian activity, guaranteed support, etc...
>>>>
>>>> If someone stands up and is prepared to take leadership, you will
>>>> quickly have a core team of somewhere between 5 and 10 or even more if you
>>>> do a great job. If you're willing to take up this commitment, you'll be
>>>> doing Ubuntu-be a big favour. Problem is, apparently this mythical figure
>>>> called "somebody" we're all talking about and who'll do all the practical
>>>> stuff like maintain the website, organise event booths, create content,
>>>> etc... isn't on this list anymore. Not sure if he ever was.
>>>>
>>>> Please, do give it a chance. First things first - canonical approval is
>>>> not a problem if you can prove you're active. I'm assuming someone here
>>>> will be able to tell you more details on this.
>>>>
>>>> Grtz,
>>>> Jurgen.
>>>>
>>>> On 01-05-14 12:11, tom verlinden wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I don't know about organizing a funeral just yet. Maybe ubuntu.becould be a commonplace for those using and or discovering ubuntu but more
>>>> in a fun sort of way. Don't know if i'm saying this right, but i think you
>>>> get the picture. There doesn't need to be a central person or spokesman
>>>> imho. Makes it far too official. The first goal should be, in my humble
>>>> opinion, to get people to discover ubuntu. Maybe by promoting this list we
>>>> could get more people discovering the os. As far as i'm concerned, i use
>>>> ubuntu, talk about it and show it to whoever i think might be interrested,
>>>> give support where i can and drop leaflets in our library. (They're also on
>>>> ubuntu. Woot!!)
>>>> I think that if we do our part any wich way we can, on our little
>>>> "islands", and use the net, list as our "glue", who knows what can happen
>>>> in the future? Is there still a connection with canonical? How does that
>>>> work? Hell, typing this gets me all fired up to give this a chance. What do
>>>> you guys think? Give it some kind of try, or just leave, and do something
>>>> on our own? (I think we could achieve more together, but i'd like to hear
>>>> your opinion). My 2 cents....
>>>> Op 30 apr. 2014 07:30 schreef "kawabill" <kawabill op telenet.be>:
>>>>
>>>> What triggered me was a mail I got from someone in the community,
>>>> stating that he rather spent his time otherwise, declining an invitation I
>>>> had sent him. No problem of course, but it took me to the following page;
>>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/IrcMeetings
>>>>
>>>> No activities are visible for me the visitor, going over the pages it
>>>> seems that the latest info dates from 2012. I know activities are still
>>>> going on, organized by enthusiasts on a very local scale, but for me it is
>>>> not visible whether all of this is coordinated.
>>>>
>>>> I find it a pity, that in the period where MS end of lifes XP I don't
>>>> see any coordinated activity to get people over into the Ubuntu/Mint/Linux
>>>> camp.
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone please comment and give feedback or let me know I'm wrong
>>>> and I seem to live life on a desolate space outside of the Ubuntu community?
>>>>
>>>> Have a nice day.
>>>> Bill
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