[Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu life in Belgium

Wouter Vandenneucker woutervddn at gmail.com
Fri May 23 07:57:08 UTC 2014 

We hebben normaal 5 roll-ups,al denk ik dat er daar al enkele van vermist
zijn.

Hier bij mij ligt nog 1 roll-up.


Grts


Wouter


2014-05-21 23:36 GMT+02:00 Steven Leeman <steven.leeman op gmail.com>:

> Hoi,
> Ik heb bij opstart van de linuxbabbel in izegem eens die rollups van
> ubuntu.be gebruikt .. ze waren toen vers van de pers bij jan. Liggen die
> daar nog altijd te liggen?
> Persoonlijk heb ik nog wel wat stickers lanyards affiches bekomen via
> pieter. Afgelopen dinsdag was er de maandelijkse babbel... oa ubuntu
> 14.04... spijtig genoeg alleen de harde kern aanwezig.
>
> Mvg steven
> Op 9-mei-2014 10:42 schreef "tom verlinden" <tom.verlinden op gmail.com>:
>
> A virtual meeting will do fine for me. Much easier to attend also. Now we
>> need to know who will participate and on wich platform we'll be gathering.
>> Maybe have a dry run a day or two in advance, to make sure everything runs
>> smoothly.
>> Op 9 mei 2014 09:37 schreef "Merlijn Sebrechts" <
>> merlijn.sebrechts op gmail.com>:
>>
>>> This date works for me, but since the others can't come... The weekends
>>> around that time will be a problem for me too. I have finals till the 17 th
>>> of June.
>>>
>>> I propose we do a virtual meeting on that day, and do an IRL meeting
>>> after my finals, in a weekend?
>>> Op 6 mei 2014 19:04 schreef "kawabill" <kawabill op telenet.be>:
>>>
>>>>  How could we best get together;
>>>> 2) The core-team members proposed, let me know who disagrees or cannot
>>>> pick up;
>>>>     a) kawabill
>>>>     b) nero
>>>>     c) Frank Neirynck
>>>>     d) Tom Verlinden
>>>>     e) Jan Bongaerts
>>>>     f) Merlijn Sebrechts
>>>>     g) Alain Daudrez
>>>>
>>>> You are all invited to come to Houthalen on May 27th. Would this work
>>>> for all of you?
>>>>
>>>> Rg
>>>> William
>>>>
>>>> On 03-05-14 21:11, Merlijn Sebrechts wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Why not use them all? There are enough applications out there that
>>>> let you post on multiple social media all at once...
>>>>
>>>> On a side note: I'm making a diaspora* node for hackerspace ghent. When
>>>> it's finished, I'll also make an ubuntu-be group there, so we can hang out
>>>> on our own, open source, trustable, distributed social platform...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2014-05-03 12:54 GMT+02:00 Alain Baudrez <a.baudrez op gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>>   I just had a look at the ubuntu-be page on Google+ -
>>>>> https://plus.google.com/112197959490301022128/about?hl=nl - it is
>>>>> idle. Even if we don't have the possibility to modify our website in the
>>>>> near future, we could at least use the events options of our Google+ page
>>>>> to announce what we plan to do.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Same goes for our FB page -
>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/87950312093/ . There is a bit more
>>>>> 'life' in the FB group, but nothing spectacular.
>>>>>
>>>>>  I noticed quite a lot op webpages like '10 things to do after
>>>>> installing ubuntu 14.04'. We could at least translate (some of) those pages
>>>>> into Dutch and French and post them on those two social media, It would be
>>>>> a start.
>>>>>
>>>>>  The main problem I see is which one we will be using.
>>>>> With the 'rumours' of Google eventually downsizing or shutting down
>>>>> their G+ social network, and on the other side some users not trusting
>>>>> Facebook, which way must we go?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2014-05-03 11:29 GMT+02:00 Duray Pol <duraypol op gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Le 02/05/2014 14:26, Luc Rulkin a écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Goede middag .
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Een klein vraagje , van iemand die een paar jaar terug al een vraag
>>>>>> stelde op t forum , zonder antwoord ..
>>>>>> zeggen jullie nu : "wij zijn op stervens na dood ... ga naar
>>>>>> Ubuntu.nl of Ubuntu.fr ?".
>>>>>>  Is er een franstalige kant van ubuntu.be ?  Anders ga ik daar eens
>>>>>> vragen wat ik kan doen.
>>>>>> (oude acer met Vista Profess. zou ik willen proberen op Ubuntu)(ik
>>>>>> ben geen It'er en heb wat aanwijzingen nodig)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  C'est tout !!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  MIVG Luc R
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Luc Rulkin
>>>>>> Bergstraat 6
>>>>>> B 9630  St Marie Latem (Zwalm)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is nothing worse than being talked about, that is not being
>>>>>> talked about.
>>>>>> (O Wilde)
>>>>>>    On Friday, 2 May 2014, 12:25, tom verlinden
>>>>>> <tom.verlinden op gmail.com> <tom.verlinden op gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Bill's proposal looks mighty fine to me. I'll get my thinking cap
>>>>>> on and see what i  an come up with. Anybody having a problem with bill's
>>>>>> proposal?
>>>>>> Op 2 mei 2014 06:36 schreef "Jurgen Gaeremyn" <
>>>>>> jurgen.gaeremyn op pandora.be>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  I think any of the hackerspaces will be willing to accomodate...
>>>>>> people living near train stations on our group might too...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Possibly I can't be available myself (wife is pregnant and due for
>>>>>> June 4th) but I'm pretty sure Hackerspace Brussels (hackerspace.be)
>>>>>> would be glad to offer you a chair in the space or the garden...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Grtz,
>>>>>> Jurgen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 01-05-14 23:08, Jan Bongaerts wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Real life meeting should still take preference over virtual
>>>>>> meeting, if you ask me.
>>>>>>  It's not all that hard to organise. Jurgen did it, I did it. They
>>>>>> were all successful.
>>>>>>  Just get to somewhere easily accessible by public transport.
>>>>>>  Brussels is the best.
>>>>>> Antwerp or Ghent might be a good option.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1 May 2014 22:51, Merlijn Sebrechts <merlijn.sebrechts op gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   aa) I can help with the website. I now a tiny bit of Drupal. If
>>>>>> somebody can give me the right credentials, I could take a look at it next
>>>>>> week. Mike Morraye knows more about the website, I think.
>>>>>>  cc) same as aa)
>>>>>>  ee) I think Google Hangouts is the best free option. If somebody has
>>>>>> a sip server, we could also use a sip client like jitsi.org, which
>>>>>> has excellent Ubuntu support.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Thanks for doing this wake-up call, kawabill!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  2014-05-01 21:40 GMT+02:00 kawabill <kawabill op telenet.be>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Hey I'm not alone on the island....! :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tom, you're right I think and I agree. It is not somebody we need, it
>>>>>> is us. Also Juergen's proposal for having Ubuntu-be.org and setting clear
>>>>>> expectations I agree with, this way we can prevent disappointment from and
>>>>>> by others. Carrying Ubuntu-be to the funeral I would think is just a bit
>>>>>> too early. From the reactions, at least 5-10 people are actively involved
>>>>>> and able to help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Using IRC is maybe just a little too much written words and I've got
>>>>>> no clue how to get it to work reliably, I think we need to get together or
>>>>>> at least get visual. For getting together there is the hacker space, the
>>>>>> facilities in Houthalen an hack - even an old school room in Bree. Is there
>>>>>> an open source alternative to Skype, allowing for a virtual meeting maybe
>>>>>> (I saw Apache's Open Meeting)? Or what if we organise a chat/video
>>>>>> conference from the 'local' events; Houthalen in Limburg, Hackerspace,
>>>>>> Brugge - can we organize it maybe in such a way that it's all in sync; ie.
>>>>>> every last Wednesday of the month (convenient for LImburg, as this is the
>>>>>> gathering date already)?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) Do you want to help set up a booth at fosdem 2015? YES, if we can
>>>>>> plan ahead I would think we can get the right and motivated people involved
>>>>>> including this chap
>>>>>>  2) Do you still use the website? If so, how? YES, but let's indeed
>>>>>> make it such that people see activity - starting with filling the agenda
>>>>>> showing the local activities for example
>>>>>>  3) What information would you want to see on the new website?
>>>>>> Haven't really given it a thought, but one thing for sure I would like to
>>>>>> see and that is UP TO DATE information
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let's keep the ideas coming, I think getting around the bank account
>>>>>> quickly is indeed opening a new one, and make it one that we can access and
>>>>>> at least have some kind of redundancy. This as not to get stuck again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have to read and negotiate contracts all day, it would really be
>>>>>> good if we could talk to each other, preferably face to face. This way we
>>>>>> iterate in seconds rather than weeks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Finally; let's get the link into Canonical established and
>>>>>> strengthened. I work for a large company and quite a large bunch is
>>>>>> starting to use Ubuntu also on the desktop. Ubuntu Phone is a great idea
>>>>>> and has huge potential, especially for cost savings. I checked how I could
>>>>>> get our purchasing in contact easily, but believe me, Canonical is not
>>>>>> going to sell the idea if they stick to how they have approached this up to
>>>>>> now. I would think, certainly in Europe, they have a  wide enough network
>>>>>> of enthusiasts and could easily bundle the network to get aggressive into
>>>>>> offering savings to large and medium size companies. As far as I'm
>>>>>> concerned I use the software that they have ubuntu-ed, it is this creation
>>>>>> that binds us - the reason why I spend my time locally to help people is
>>>>>> for ubuntu, and also as a kind of payback to Canonical because they have
>>>>>> created a magnificent piece of software. Not only them, but they are for me
>>>>>> one of the main forces behind humanizing Linux! Credit to Mark Shuttleworth
>>>>>> for all that. Taking Ubuntu-be to the graveyard doesn't seem the best way
>>>>>> to help and show a kind of gratitude.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Too many words written already, and hail to he/she who came to this
>>>>>> point. How to go forward? Let's use 8D methodology and get this going.
>>>>>> 1) Plan - revive Ubuntu-be and prevent it from going quiet again
>>>>>> 2) The core-team members proposed, let me know who disagrees or
>>>>>> cannot pick up;
>>>>>>     a) kawabill
>>>>>>     b) nero
>>>>>>     c) Frank Neirynck
>>>>>>     d) Tom Verlinden
>>>>>>     e) Jan Bongaerts
>>>>>>     f) Merlijn Sebrechts
>>>>>>     g) Alain Daudrez
>>>>>> 3) The problem; Ubuntu-be is dying
>>>>>> 4) Temporary fix;
>>>>>>     aa) website is not upto date (whom can take action and when?)
>>>>>>     bb) bank account needs to be corrected (to open a new one I can
>>>>>> pick up the action and can have it done within two weeks, with regards to
>>>>>> the old one whom can get the responsible person to help organize it such
>>>>>> that we have multiple Ubuntu-ers to get access and when?)
>>>>>>     cc) support point map - remove ghost accounts and update or allow
>>>>>> for updated information (whom can take action and when?)
>>>>>>     dd) Limburg event box - Wouter, please drop me an e-mail where I
>>>>>> can come and pick it up and get it into my storage garage)
>>>>>>     ee) Setup a web-meeting last Wednesday of May (May 28th), we can
>>>>>> use Skype, Google hangout or maybe someone can help build Open Meeting for
>>>>>> Ubuntu (I don't mind planning and coordinating, whom can help setup the
>>>>>> technical side of it all, Nero???)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let's get this going before we start root-cause analysis, and when
>>>>>> need please team up where you can. Myself I'm not really good at using
>>>>>> Drupal, I've build my own in HTML, but I sure could help cleaning up and
>>>>>> updating.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your comments please?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 01-05-14 12:39, tom verlinden wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for your info on this. I've always thought that this certain
>>>>>> "somebody" should comprise out of more than one person. One person can't
>>>>>> take this on his or her shoulders. There's too much, from what i'm reading,
>>>>>> for one person to do and be succesfull about it. There should be a team of
>>>>>> somebodies, all doing somewhat the same, but in different locations. (Does
>>>>>> that make sense?) Is there a need for a central organ? To me that makes it
>>>>>> too complicated already, and might create expectations, that cannot be
>>>>>> fullfilled. Anyway, there's need, i guess to promote ubuntu, as Bill said.
>>>>>> Now we have to figure out how to do this in a fun way, i guess.
>>>>>> Op 1 mei 2014 12:27 schreef "Jurgen Gaeremyn" <
>>>>>> jurgen.gaeremyn op pandora.be>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Tom,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the strongest periods of Ubuntu-be were when one single person
>>>>>> actually kept his shoulders under the project. In the past we had a few of
>>>>>> these people. Thing is: ubuntu-be.org should set clear expectations:
>>>>>> what (not) to expect: a spokesman, the official stance of Ubuntu on
>>>>>> whatever Belgian activity, guaranteed support, etc...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If someone stands up and is prepared to take leadership, you will
>>>>>> quickly have a core team of somewhere between 5 and 10 or even more if you
>>>>>> do a great job. If you're willing to take up this commitment, you'll be
>>>>>> doing Ubuntu-be a big favour. Problem is, apparently this mythical figure
>>>>>> called "somebody" we're all talking about and who'll do all the practical
>>>>>> stuff like maintain the website, organise event booths, create content,
>>>>>> etc... isn't on this list anymore. Not sure if he ever was.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please, do give it a chance. First things first - canonical approval
>>>>>> is not a problem if you can prove you're active. I'm assuming someone here
>>>>>> will be able to tell you more details on this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Grtz,
>>>>>> Jurgen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 01-05-14 12:11, tom verlinden wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know about organizing a funeral just yet. Maybe ubuntu.becould be a commonplace for those using and or discovering ubuntu but more
>>>>>> in a fun sort of way. Don't know if i'm saying this right, but i think you
>>>>>> get the picture. There doesn't need to be a central person or spokesman
>>>>>> imho. Makes it far too official. The first goal should be, in my humble
>>>>>> opinion, to get people to discover ubuntu. Maybe by promoting this list we
>>>>>> could get more people discovering the os. As far as i'm concerned, i use
>>>>>> ubuntu, talk about it and show it to whoever i think might be interrested,
>>>>>> give support where i can and drop leaflets in our library. (They're also on
>>>>>> ubuntu. Woot!!)
>>>>>> I think that if we do our part any wich way we can, on our little
>>>>>> "islands", and use the net, list as our "glue", who knows what can happen
>>>>>> in the future? Is there still a connection with canonical? How does that
>>>>>> work? Hell, typing this gets me all fired up to give this a chance. What do
>>>>>> you guys think? Give it some kind of try, or just leave, and do something
>>>>>> on our own? (I think we could achieve more together, but i'd like to hear
>>>>>> your opinion). My 2 cents....
>>>>>> Op 30 apr. 2014 07:30 schreef "kawabill" <kawabill op telenet.be>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What triggered me was a mail I got from someone in the community,
>>>>>> stating that he rather spent his time otherwise, declining an invitation I
>>>>>> had sent him. No problem of course, but it took me to the following page;
>>>>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/IrcMeetings
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No activities are visible for me the visitor, going over the pages it
>>>>>> seems that the latest info dates from 2012. I know activities are still
>>>>>> going on, organized by enthusiasts on a very local scale, but for me it is
>>>>>> not visible whether all of this is coordinated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I find it a pity, that in the period where MS end of lifes XP I don't
>>>>>> see any coordinated activity to get people over into the Ubuntu/Mint/Linux
>>>>>> camp.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can anyone please comment and give feedback or let me know I'm wrong
>>>>>> and I seem to live life on a desolate space outside of the Ubuntu community?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have a nice day.
>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Check out http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/ and find out why it is a
>>>>>> better option than trying to upgrade your hardware to accommodate a newer
>>>>>> version of your current system.
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