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Richard Seguin ubuntu at nb.sympatico.ca
Mon Aug 27 00:59:22 UTC 2007


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Computer geek...  I have been called worse ;)

Joel Goguen wrote:
> On Sun, 2007-26-08 at 13:04 -0700, Donald &/or Mila Trombley wrote:
>
>> Joel Goguen wrote:
>>> On Fri, 2007-24-08 at 19:56 -0300, Richard Seguin wrote:
>>>
>>>> I love it!!!!!  How many people do you have in your group? We
>>>> are at a slight disadvantage out here in the eastern
>>>> provinces as our population is a lot less and spread out
>>>> more...  I have thought of designing systems based on
>>>> compatibility... I have also thought of the black box idea
>>>> where you push the power button and up comes a screen... No
>>>> configuration and really no flexibility (great for people who
>>>> only want something for web surfing and email and such)... It
>>>> would be money in our pockets...  The geographical area
>>>> around here though makes it so that idea is a bit hard.
>>>>
>>>> I guess it goes back to the post I made a few minutes ago...
>>>> WHY should people use Ubuntu...  any semi-geek knows that
>>>> Windows and Linux are competitors... For my own efforts
>>>> anyway I want to take that out of the equation...
>>>>
>>>>
>>> This is close to what I keep coming back to.  Our culture is so
>>> in love with money that when we see something totally for free,
>>> the immediate reaction is almost invariably "something _must_
>>> be wrong with it".  If you say that nothing is wrong with it,
>>> or if you say that nothing is wrong but... then you'll turn
>>> people off.  If you agree with them, it doesn't matter what you
>>> say after that.
>>>
>>> The other curse (or a blessing depending on your point of view)
>>> is choice.  People, contrary to what most F/OSS advocates say,
>>> do not always want lots of choices.  Some of us (like me)
>>> prefer to have lots of choices, but other people (like one
>>> friend of mine) want to have just one way of doing it that just
>>> works.
>>>
>>> Less technically literate people also want things to stay
>>> familiar. That's a big reason why a lot of people are staying
>>> away from Vista - it's not familiar to them.  I have no problem
>>> adapting to different interfaces on different systems (but
>>> going from Gnome to KDE to FVWM can throw me for a loop :)) but
>>> the biggest complaint I get from people is that it's not
>>> familiar.
>>>
>>> Finally, people don't like the command line.  I work for a
>>> university IT help desk, and all the time people call in asking
>>> for help and decide they would rather deal with their problem
>>> until one of us can do all that "DOS stuff" for them.  There's
>>> nothing they can click on to do the job, so it must be too hard
>>> for them.
>>>
>>> Anyway, I know a lot of that is off topic, but after that first
>>>  paragraph I needed to say it.  At the very least, it's good
>>> things to keep in mind when telling people about Ubuntu, or
>>> Linux in general.
>>>
>>>
>> Personally, I do like the command-line way of accessing the
>> information or programs which I wish to access... I used to be a
>> DOS driver ;-) O:-) ! It gave me a lot of "control" in how I used
>> the OS....But, unfortunately, I became "lazy" in that I now am
>> used to using the "Icon" way (Point & click (shoot)) to access
>> the programs... Linux for now is still a largely unfamiliar
>> territiory for me, although I am slowly getting used to its
>> idiosyncrasies. BTW: How do I access the various command line
>> features, which I wish to run (so far, I have been able to most
>> of them via "Point and Shoot" in XWindows format.....
> This is pretty much what happened to most people :)  Remember back
> in the day when you booted into DOS and you started Windows if you
> wanted to by typing a command?  A lot of games up until Windows 98
> (at least the ones I played) required you to reboot in DOS mode and
> type a command to get going.  Before Windows was common place, most
> people could use the command line, but now it's the realm of
> "computer geeks".
>
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