too much bloat

[Corey Burger]

On Jan 12, 2008 5:34 PM, Andrey Vul <andrey.vul at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 12, 2008 7:32 PM, Corey Burger <corey.burger at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Jan 12, 2008 4:25 PM, Andrey Vul <andrey.vul at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > The base install has a lot of bloat, such as UUID's in fstab and
> > > unneeded crap in alsa rules and /etc/modules.d/ and is too automated
> > > for my liking.
> > > Which is more poweruser-friendly, debian, fedora, or other?
> > > I pretty much want a binary distro that gives you almost as much
> > > choice as gentoo *and supports jfs*, yet just works? My candidates so
> > > far are debian-unstable and fedora-(7 or 8, whichever has jfs support)
> > > (haven't tested either yet)?
> >
> > Umm, bloat?
> >
> > No, UUIDs are required to make certain you are actually mounting the
> > right partion. Any modern 2.6.2x is going to require them. Alsa is
> > automated to make your life easy.
> /dev/hd* Just Works in gentoo.

It might, but UUIDs mean that it will always work. Here is the spec
that made the change:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks

>
> For alsa, why not query the sound card type within a script to get the
> sound card type (like lspci parsing) and use it to create the driver
> load portion of a custom alsa file without boilerplate driver loading?

If there is a bug in how soundcard loading is done and you think you
know a better way, go talk to the alsa people. I rather suspect that
the current soundcard stuff is done because scripts like that fail
more often than they work. The other person to talk to would be
Matthew Garrett, one of the most knowledgable people about Linux on
laptops in the world. He and Daniel Chen did most of the ALSA work in
Ubuntu.

>
> > And as for other distros, the delta between what fedora ships and what
> > Ubuntu does is very very little. A few patches here or there and a few
> > different programs but 95%+ is the same code. (of course, some of this
> > is because OO.o is a bloated piece of crap.)
> Which is why I use AbiWord, in addition to the fact that abw.bz2 makes
> for the smallest file size of *any* word processor ff, far more
> efficient than rtf or even txt

Corey