too much bloat

[Corey Burger]

On Jan 12, 2008 5:51 PM, Andrey Vul <andrey.vul at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 12, 2008 8:40 PM, Corey Burger <corey.burger at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Jan 12, 2008 5:34 PM, Andrey Vul <andrey.vul at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Jan 12, 2008 7:32 PM, Corey Burger <corey.burger at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Jan 12, 2008 4:25 PM, Andrey Vul <andrey.vul at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > The base install has a lot of bloat, such as UUID's in fstab and
> > > > > unneeded crap in alsa rules and /etc/modules.d/ and is too automated
> > > > > for my liking.
> > > > > Which is more poweruser-friendly, debian, fedora, or other?
> > > > > I pretty much want a binary distro that gives you almost as much
> > > > > choice as gentoo *and supports jfs*, yet just works? My candidates so
> > > > > far are debian-unstable and fedora-(7 or 8, whichever has jfs support)
> > > > > (haven't tested either yet)?
> > > >
> > > > Umm, bloat?
> > > >
> > > > No, UUIDs are required to make certain you are actually mounting the
> > > > right partion. Any modern 2.6.2x is going to require them. Alsa is
> > > > automated to make your life easy.
> > > /dev/hd* Just Works in gentoo.
> >
> > It might, but UUIDs mean that it will always work. Here is the spec
> > that made the change:
> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks
> What about LABELs rather than UUIDs? Alll of my devices and partitions
> have unique names, such as 'ubuntu', 'boot', 'gentoo', 'swap',
> 'windows', 'ADATA_2GB', etc.

if you set a label and then somebody sets the label to something
different, you have issues with your fstab. This way, people can set
labels (a far more common thing) and fstab will continue to work.

Regardless, the use of UUIDs is not bloat.

<ranrt>
Like the thread about choice on fedora-devel the other day[1], the
whole "if I don't use it, it must be bloat" meme pisses me off. Most
of the time certain things have been doen for a reason and the person
arguing it is bloat simply doesn't see the use case for it </rant>

Corey