Ubuntu users in Ontario, Canada?

Tue Jun 24 03:20:40 UTC 2008

Did you have a look at the install manual ?

http://joomlacode.org/gf/project/joomla/docman/?subdir=1

geo wrote:
> I don't have a "search" in my toolbar in Ubuntu so I'm not sure what 
> that refers to.
>
> I did go to the Joomla website and download the installer, un-ZIP it 
> and then......when I double-click on INSTALL.php, Firefox opens it.
>
> And re-opens, and re-reopens......in other words, it doesn't install - 
> it just wastes my time.
>
> I don't mind books - in fact I prefer books - I'm very much a 
> book-hound! I have an old british history book from 1704 and when the 
> Antique Roadshow hit Toronto back in 98, they verified it's 
> authenticity for me!
>
> But these days I have no money.....after feeding the kids, paying the 
> mortgage, the bills, insurance, gas, etc.....you know.....and our 
> local library has diddly-squat on computers.
>
> So when I ask on the https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu website, the 
> majority of my answers come back from hard-core users, or maybe worse 
> - programmers! Not very useful, sadly.
>
> I don't get paid unless I produce - and I don't have the luxury of 
> money or time to be able to afford to go to courses or buy books on 
> this stuff. Heck, just being able to afford gas these days is a 
> challenge enough!
>
> Is it too much to ask to get answers that are good for "regular" folks 
> or professionals? I'm never going to learn all of this configuration 
> language, I just need it to work so I can set it up over at the farm 
> for the mushroom business as well as for my own personal stuff hosted 
> from my computer at home.
>
> Thanks,
> geo
>
>
>     Hi:
>
>     You don't have to go through the whole Synaptic list, in the tool bar is
>     "search", then you type in Joomla, and if you had updated the list
>     with
>     "reload", then you might find things in minutes. It will do a
>      search
>     for
>     what you are looking for. I'm not sure what Joomla is, and don't have
>     the time right now to find out! 
>
>     There is quite a bit of stuff there in the Synaptic List, but it is
>     Categorized too, so scroll down the list of Categories, and then the
>     list is not so big. If you use the "ALL" list, it is Very Big!
>
>     Things can get broken when you start to install stuff, from outside the
>     "list". 
>
>     I used to be a Windblows person too, but now I don't use Winders any
>     more! There was always too much pressure to buy a new computer every
>     week, or a new operating system, when the next version of a game
>     demanded it! There were always all kinds of Mal-ware inserted, and
>     Vulnerabilities that were not patched fast enough. Always all kinds of
>     Panic Attacks about the New Virus, starting up. A new computer would
>     start acting very slow, very fast with all the Patches on top of Patches
>     on top of Patches, on top of
>      Patches. You don't want Linux to be like
>     that do you? ;-) 
>
>     There are a few Good Books you can get on Ubuntu, and even quite a list
>     of Tutorial Web sites, if Books are not you Cuppa tea. 
>
>     Alfred!
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: geo <yaktur at yahoo.com>
>     Reply-To: yaktur at yahoo.com, The Canadian Ubuntu Users Community
>     <ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com>
>     To: Mark W. Law <bear at wightman.ca>
>     Cc: ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com
>     Subject: Re: Ubuntu users in Ontario, Canada?
>     Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 18:52:08 -0700 (PDT)
>     Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.199
>
>     Hi
>
>     I finally found something on how to install Joomla. But it only confirms
>     my problem.
>
>     I do have PHP5 and MySql installed (by the Synaptic.....by golly there's
>     too much to choose from, this list should be pared down for us non-Linux
>     folk! It's WAY too much useless information to pick and guess through).
>
>     I've restarted the
>      computer to make sure whatever got installed would be
>     "done" - typical Windows thing but what else can you do!
>
>     I still cannot install Joomla, I still get the same repetition of what
>     to do with PHP files, open with Firefox or Save to disk. I click Open
>     and it just repeats.
>
>     How come these things aren't geared for ex-Windows users? Don't the
>     people at Ubuntu realize that by putting Ubuntu on Dell computers, this
>     invites a whole community of non-Linux people to the software which is
>     so stupefyingly complex to comprehend.
>
>     I'm not an uneducated person - I have a degree in electronics
>     engineering - but my knowledge is in electronics hardware - not in
>     software at all. I never touch software in my work an an engineer, but
>     I'm a hardware specialist, particularly in Analog electronics design,
>     but not simulated Analog circuits in software - the old fashioned way,
>     even in my head is the best way. I have my own
>      home lab too.
>
>     So you can imagine how frustrating this makes me feel. And insulted.
>     Imagine an average high-school educated person trying all of this out,
>     what their experience would be like! They would never touch Linux again.
>
>     But sadly nobody listens, even on the Ubuntu forum
>     answers.launchpad.net, it seems to be geared towards a
>     computer-programmer culture which is a HUGE drawback and will definitely
>     prevent the successful spread of Linux.
>
>     This kind of stuff has to be ported successfully - away from the
>     influence of Linux  culture and enthusiasts - so professionals and
>     regular folk who aren't programmers, and who simply don't have the
>     knowledge or time to spend on learning this stuff can still make good
>     use of it at home or at work. The computer is supposed to do the work
>     after all but some of this software makes you wonder what you bought a
>     microprocessor for.
>
>     I've been using Ubuntu for
>      over a year now. But there are times when I
>     get so frustrated and tired of this programming lingo that I just want
>     to give it up and go back to Windows (or preferably Mac).
>
>     Enough said on that....
>
>     I still can't make any use at all of this Joomla stuff and certainly
>     from my experience on the launchpad forum, any attempt to even
>     understand what "htacess" is all about, well that's just for
>     people who
>     live and breathe computers - I'm just trying to use mine and simply
>     don't have the time to turn it into an on-going lab experiment. The kids
>     use it, my wife uses it - it can't be turned into an on-going
>     experiment.
>
>     What am I supposed to do? Please advise? I still need a usable solution
>     but something that is aimed at "more stupid" people who come from a
>     Windows or Mac environment, something that will let me get the job done
>     - configure the computer properly without guesswork, and not waste my
>     time on
>      stuff that should already have been done by the software.
>
>     Thanks,
>     geo
>
>