Farewell, Ubuntu

Sun Oct 5 15:36:58 UTC 2008

I'm not aware of the original claim this user did in the past, but I assume
the following :

- there's a quick and well hack/fix to that particular problem (have heard
many people had trouble with pulse-audio)
- he's a new linux user
- he googled a lot
- wasn't able to find the solution even if the fix was somewhere in the
pages he viewed
- he didn't meet a local group with real, live people with  knowledge who
would recognize right away the solution among the zillions of page google is
giving to that pulse audio problem

In conclusion, web, forum email,  support is good for people with knowledge
on how to ask questions and how to provide clues to the people who want to
help (lspci -v anyone ?). Community support should extend to local user
group, and those groups should show up to actually reach the real world
where people have little troubleshooting skills and don't even know there's
local groups

hint: the next 8.10 release would be a very good time to start show up and
stop being anonymous ubuntu users.

On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Victor Mendonça <victorbrca at yahoo.ca>wrote:

> I'm glad you are not giving up on Linux completely. If it's other distros
> that you want to try, I'd say go ahead with it. One thing I should mention
> is that most of the distros will not be so easy ot use and setup as Ubuntu.
> Ubuntu aims to have an user experience similar to that of a MAC computer.
>
> I also have had many sound problems with Ubuntu 8.04 (and I do like 7.10 a
> lot more than 8.04). Right now my volume control on my panel does not work
> as I changed some configuration to use the speakers for skype. Another
> problem that I've been having is with playback in VLC when I have a firefox
> window open. The fix was to change vlc to pulse audio, which worked for the
> first few days, but after a while it stopped working. I haven't had time to
> looks for fixes.
>
> Again, these problems are not even close to the other major problems I
> would have with other Linux distros (being a noob myself). And I know that
> Ubuntu has the best forum support compared to any other distro. I too
> sometimes don't get my answer, but that does not mean that I will stop
> there. I make it personal to resolve the problem (because I enjoy
> troubleshooting).
>
> Good luck with the experimentaion. You only got more to learn from it.
>
> Let us know if you'd like to give the sound problem another try (even if
> just for the heck of it).
>
>
>
>
> Victor Mendonça
> IT Worker - Linux enthusiast
> http://wazem.org/
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: George Borusiewich <v.g.borus at sympatico.ca>
> To: ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com
> Sent: Sunday, October 5, 2008 9:03:02 AM
> Subject: Farewell, Ubuntu
>
> I first tried linux with Ubuntu 6.04, dual-booting with Win XP. I was
> delighted. Ubuntu auto-detected all of my hardware with no difficulty.
> When 6.10 arrived, I switched to that, then 7.04, then 7.10, all with no
> difficulty. I then installed 8.04. Disaster! No sound. I fiddled around
> for a couple of weeks (I'm a newbie) with no success. I posted a report
> to ubuntu-ca and asked for help. I received one reply from someone who
> expressed puzzlement, but offered no suggestions. I checked some
> websites to see if I could find a solution, and found 2 other poor souls
> suffering from the same problem. One suggested that Ubuntu 8.04's switch
> from "pulse audio" to "alsa" was the problem. I switched my 8.04
> installation from "alsa" to "pulse audio", but still no sound. I posted
> another report to ubuntu-ca with an update on my efforts, but received
> not one reply. I then waited patiently for Ubuntu 8.10, knowing that the
> problem would be corrected. It was not (I downloaded and installed 8.10
> alpha 6). Grasping at straws, I installed Ubuntu 8.04 Satanic Edition.
> No sound. The maddening thing is that I repeatedly reinstalled 7.10 and
> got sound every time. Since Ubuntu is debian-based, I tried Debian 4.
> Too geeky (I didn't even install it). I heard that Linux Mint is
> Ubuntu-based, so I installed Linux Mint 5 (which is based on Ubuntu
> 8.04). No sound, but in my opinion, Ubuntu cannot hold a candle to Linux
> Mint 5 in terms of elegance and simplicity (try it). Unfortunately,
> Linux Mint 4 (which I assume is based on ubuntu 7.10) does not have a
> 86x64 version. Therefore, I am temporarily running ubuntu 7.10 until I
> find some other linux distribution which will work. I have just
> downloaded Mandriva 2009, but haven't had time to try it. I looked
> through the 2008 edition of "Ubuntu Unleashed" (which covers 8.04 and
> 8.10) but it offered no help at all. Parting is such sweet sorrow.
> George Borusiewich
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