FW: evolution mail

ray house v.2.ol at hotmail.com
Sun Aug 9 17:31:21 UTC 2009 



> Subject: RE: evolution mail
> From: jgoguen at jgoguen.ca
> To: v.2.ol at hotmail.com
> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 12:21:16 -0300
> 
> Great! Glad to hear I've cleared it up for you :)  You should re-send
> this to the whole list though, so everyone knows you've gotten a good
> answer to your question.
> 
> On Sun, 2009-08-09 at 09:23 -0400, ray house wrote:
> > Ahh ! All confusion has been dispelled!! Thank you very much Joel.
> > This is what I thought but really not sure of.I really wish that this
> > had been made clear in the intro to Evolution. Great stuff !!  I have
> > learned something today. Many thanks Joel,  Ray
> > 
> > > Subject: RE: evolution mail
> > > From: jgoguen at jgoguen.ca
> > > To: ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com
> > > Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 09:15:25 -0300
> > > 
> > > Hi Ray,
> > > 
> > > To establish an Evolution mail account, you have to have an existing
> > > email account with another provider (such as Hotmail, GMail,
> > Yahoo...)
> > > and you tell Evolution to check that email account. Evolution does
> > not
> > > make its own email accounts - you have to have one already.
> > > 
> > > As an example, I have the email address jgoguen at jgoguen.ca that I
> > use
> > > with Evolution. This does not mean that my address is an evolution
> > > address. Quite the contrary, I had to make sure the address was
> > fully
> > > working before I even started thinking about Evolution! Once I saw
> > that
> > > I could send and receive emails using jgoguen at jgoguen.ca I then
> > opened
> > > Evolution and set it up to check for new emails in my account and
> > send
> > > emails using my SMTP server as my account.
> > > 
> > > It's the exact same thing for any other mail client - you must have
> > a
> > > working email account before starting to use them. Thus, if you were
> > to
> > > switch to Evolution, you would need to have an email account already
> > > working ans set up with another provider - in your case, that would
> > be
> > > Hotmail. If you decide to use Evolution with Hotmail, you will end
> > up
> > > transferring all your Hotmail mails to Evolution - making them
> > > inaccessible from the web-based Hotmail interface.
> > > 
> > > So, to attempt to answer your questions assuming that you would
> > still
> > > want to use Hotmail with Evolution... the email address Evolution
> > wants
> > > is your Hotmail email address. Hotmail only supports POP, so you
> > would
> > > choose POP. In a nutshell, POP (Post Office Protocol) is a mail
> > access
> > > protocol that downloads all the mail from the server to your
> > computer
> > > and IMAP (Internet Message Access Protocol) is an access protocol
> > that
> > > leaves mail on the server, works with copies on your computer, and
> > > synchronizes changes between the server and all clients you use. The
> > > server Evolution asks for is the server from which all mail is to be
> > > downloaded - in your case, pop2.live.com. Later you'll be asked for
> > the
> > > SMTP server (the server used to send mail), which is
> > smtp.live.com:587
> > > (which means, server smtp.live.com on port 587). Again, Evolution
> > will
> > > not work unless you set it up to use an email account that you can
> > use
> > > without Evolution.
> > > 
> > > Hope that clears things up a little.
> > > 
> > > On Sun, 2009-08-09 at 06:53 -0400, ray house wrote:
> > > > Hello Andrew, Thanks for the tests, but I think that I did not
> > post my
> > > > questions correctly. I dont want to transfer mail from Hotmail to
> > > > Evolution mail. what I want to do is; to establish an Evolution
> > mail
> > > > account! I have read the " Evolution account assistance" several
> > times
> > > > and I seem to be getting nowhere. Eg: in one box they require an
> > Email
> > > > address, what address? do I establish this myself ? In an other
> > > > window they ask for a Sever, what server?? What is POP? Is there a
> > > > place where I can find the meaning of all these abrieviations ?
> > What
> > > > you sent me works OK, I may use it, but I would like Evolution to
> > be
> > > > my main account.I have read many good things about Evolution but I
> > can
> > > > tell you that when people see the hoops they have to jump through
> > to
> > > > establish the account they will probably abandon the attempt,
> > unless
> > > > they are computer experts, which I am not. Thanks, Ray
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >
> > ______________________________________________________________________
> > > > Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 22:26:51 -0400
> > > > Subject: Re: evolution mail
> > > > From: mathenge at gmail.com
> > > > To: ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com
> > > > 
> > > > I tested this on my machine and I had to use the following
> > settings
> > > > for it to work. Both send and recieve.
> > > > 
> > > > Receiving:
> > > > 
> > > > pop server = pop2.live.com
> > > > username = yourusername at hotmail.com
> > > > use secure connection = SSL Encryption
> > > > Authentication type = Password
> > > > 
> > > > Sending:
> > > > 
> > > > smtp server = smtp.live.com:587
> > > > Use secure connection = TLS Encryption
> > > > Authentication type = Login
> > > > username = yourusername at hotmail.com
> > > > 
> > > > Yes... the SMTP server port is 587 and I had to enter it exactly
> > as
> > > > above to get this working.
> > > > 
> > > > Hope that helps.
> > > > 
> > > > Andrew.
> > > > 
> > > > 2009/8/7 ray house <v.2.ol at hotmail.com>
> > > > Hi Daniel, using that password I still get" cannot get folder;
> > > > invalid operation on this store" when I try to send the email.
> > > > Ray
> > > > 
> > > > > Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 11:17:43 -0400
> > > > > Subject: Re: evolution mail
> > > > > From: robitaille at gmail.com
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > To: ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com
> > > > > 
> > > > > your user password on your Ubuntu computer.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 2009/8/7 ray house <v.2.ol at hotmail.com>:
> > > > > > Ok Eugene, it all seems to work when I send the email but
> > > > at the end I get"
> > > > > > enter password for default keyring to unlock" what
> > > > password is this?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 11:33:04 -0300
> > > > > >> From: eugene.cormier at gmail.com
> > > > > >> To: ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com
> > > > > >> Subject: Re: evolution mail
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Sorry about that ray....I only use my email program to
> > > > get hotmail, if I
> > > > > >> want to send mail, I send it from my home email account
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> for outgoing mail:
> > > > > >> In the *Outgoing mail (SMTP) server* box, type
> > > > *smtp.live.com
> > > > > >> and use ssl
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Cheers
> > > > > >> Eugene
> > > > > >> *
> > > > > >> ray house wrote:
> > > > > >> > Hi Eugene, I tried that and when I try to send an email
> > > > I still get an
> > > > > >> > error message: cannot get folder; invalid operation on
> > > > this store: Ray
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > > Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 10:59:40 -0300
> > > > > >> > > From: eugene.cormier at gmail.com
> > > > > >> > > To: ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com
> > > > > >> > > Subject: Re: evolution mail
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > Hotmail does have pop access (which is why hotway was
> > > > removed from the
> > > > > >> > > repos)
> > > > > >> > > all you need to fill in now is the following
> > > > > >> > > server: pop3.live.com
> > > > > >> > > username: your full hotmail address (with the
> > > > @hotmail.com bit)
> > > > > >> > > your password
> > > > > >> > > and use SSL
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > Eugene
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > ray house wrote:
> > > > > >> > > > Hi Darryl, Thanks for the info. I tried that
> > > > procedure but I get "
> > > > > >> > > > cant find the Hotway package" Tried it twice, same
> > > > results. Ray
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 08:25:17 -0400
> > > > > >> > > > > From: darryl at moores.ca
> > > > > >> > > > > To: jgoguen at jgoguen.ca;
> > > > ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com
> > > > > >> > > > > Subject: Re: evolution mail
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > 孔子說的演變可能會很複雜
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > or maybe this will help
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > >
> > http://www.ubuntugeek.com/send-and-receive-your-hotmail-messages-through-evolution.html
> > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > Joel Goguen wrote:
> > > > > >> > > > > > On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 07:33 -0400, ray house
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >> > > > > >> Hi, I have tried several times to create an
> > > > Evolution mail
> > > > > >> > account
> > > > > >> > > > > >> with no success, why is it so difficult to
> > > > do?? I feel it
> > > > > >> > would go
> > > > > >> > > > > >> very well with ubuntu 9.04, faster than my
> > > > current hotmail.
> > > > > >> > Most of
> > > > > >> > > > > >> the questions asked to create the account are
> > > > like mandarin
> > > > > >> > to me. Am
> > > > > >> > > > > >> I the only one with this problem ? Ray
> > > > > >> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > > > > > What questions are you specifically having
> > > > problems with? Are
> > > > > >> > the docs
> > > > > >> > > > > > for setting up Hotmail with POP access (at
> > > > least I assume they
> > > > > >> > exist?)
> > > > > >> > > > > > any help?
> > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > > >> > > > >
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