ubuntu-ca Digest, Vol 86, Issue 18

Che cheguebeara at gmail.com
Fri May 18 21:28:21 UTC 2012 

Thanks for the heads up on System 76.. will have a look at them... :)

I ran into the suspend issue on a Mint12 machine running Cinnamon vs.
Gnome 3, which I 'fixed' by setting all the power settings to either
Never or Do Nothing (closing the lid etc.).  When I went back to Ubuntu
I set the power the same way and no issues at all. Again it might be
conflict between xorg and the bios or video settings.

Mark

On Fri, 2012-05-18 at 15:12 -0600, Ralph Pichie wrote:
> Thanks for the feedback. The machine I had was an HP 620 notebook.
> Suspend and resume never did work right except in Windows (neither did
> hibernation), and then the touchpad/usb failures and sudden power
> losses started.
> 
> I'm tempted to try System 76: https://www.system76.com/home/
> 
> 
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> >   1. Upgrade failure (William Frick)
> >   2. Laptop suggestions (Ralph Pichie)
> >   3. RE: Laptop suggestions (Mark Ueki Mina)
> >   4. RE: Laptop suggestions (Che)
> >   5. Re: Laptop suggestions (Dorian Pula)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 12:20:34 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: William Frick <wfrick at rogers.com>
> > To: The List <ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com>
> > Subject: Upgrade failure
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> > Hi all !
> >
> > I tried to upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04 and it only 1/2 took. I am left with a functioning pc but no network [ethernet connection]. Furthermore the upgrade seemed to fail when writing the GRUB.cfg file and rebooting will not find the previous versions although listed in startup options.
> >
> >
> > I have downloaded and created a USB stick to try the upgrade again but it seems stuck at the "Preparing to install ..... " screen.
> >
> >
> > When booted from the stick I do have the 'net .....
> >
> >
> > Is it just me or have the installs been 'dumbed down' and less interactive. I can't find any tools to suggest what the problem is. All I get is a busy icon with no idea as to what it is doing or waiting for .....
> >
> > Suggestions anyone ?
> >
> >
> > Bill
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 13:28:15 -0600
> > From: Ralph Pichie <thevillagegeek at gmail.com>
> > To: ubuntu-ca <ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com>
> > Subject: Laptop suggestions
> > Message-ID:
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> >
> > I need to replace a problem laptop from a manufacturer with a warranty
> > that isn't worth the paper.
> >
> > My requirements:
> > Robustness (good hinges, LCD, no bending in, etc.)
> > Linux support (any Debian-derived distro, or perhaps Open SUSE. I have
> > Ubuntu 12.04 32-bit, several older *buntu versions)
> > Needs to work with: Wacom Bamboo drawing tablet, Huawei Android phone
> > for tethered Internet access
> > Basic business productivity
> > Some graphics capability, but I don't need to run Unity or do heavy 3D
> > or gaming)
> > Windows 7 as other OS (preferred, but I can make do without the 'pleasure')
> > Occasional attempts at customer service.
> > Looks, smooks. I need it to work. Bonus points if it is reasonably
> > repairable by little ol' me.
> >
> > With my current employer, I can get a 10% discount from Dell on most
> > of the product line. http://dell.ca
> >
> > Lenovo has a sale on some ThinkPads that ends at midnight tonight.
> > http://tinyurl.com/d6c9ynm
> > I'm thinking of a ThinkPad T420i
> >
> > Any experience that might be helpful? Feel free to email me direct, as
> > I get the list in digest form.
> >
> > Yeah, I'm also thinking of System 76 and the like, but this is to
> > replace a dual boot machine.
> >
> > Ralph
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 16:26:55 -0400
> > From: Mark Ueki Mina <themarker0 at hotmail.com>
> > To: <ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com>
> > Subject: RE: Laptop suggestions
> > Message-ID: <SNT137-W70C8A93DA15D5BA94BE2C841E0 at phx.gbl>
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> >
> >
> > Last I checked from Ars, Dell is getting ready to sell Prepacked Ubuntu laptops.
> > I'll find the article and some more info and I'll send it your way.
> >
> >> Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 13:28:15 -0600
> >> Subject: Laptop suggestions
> >> From: thevillagegeek at gmail.com
> >> To: ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com
> >>
> >> I need to replace a problem laptop from a manufacturer with a warranty
> >> that isn't worth the paper.
> >>
> >> My requirements:
> >> Robustness (good hinges, LCD, no bending in, etc.)
> >> Linux support (any Debian-derived distro, or perhaps Open SUSE. I have
> >> Ubuntu 12.04 32-bit, several older *buntu versions)
> >> Needs to work with: Wacom Bamboo drawing tablet, Huawei Android phone
> >> for tethered Internet access
> >> Basic business productivity
> >> Some graphics capability, but I don't need to run Unity or do heavy 3D
> >> or gaming)
> >> Windows 7 as other OS (preferred, but I can make do without the 'pleasure')
> >> Occasional attempts at customer service.
> >> Looks, smooks. I need it to work. Bonus points if it is reasonably
> >> repairable by little ol' me.
> >>
> >> With my current employer, I can get a 10% discount from Dell on most
> >> of the product line. http://dell.ca
> >>
> >> Lenovo has a sale on some ThinkPads that ends at midnight tonight.
> >> http://tinyurl.com/d6c9ynm
> >> I'm thinking of a ThinkPad T420i
> >>
> >> Any experience that might be helpful? Feel free to email me direct, as
> >> I get the list in digest form.
> >>
> >> Yeah, I'm also thinking of System 76 and the like, but this is to
> >> replace a dual boot machine.
> >>
> >> Ralph
> >>
> >> --
> >> ubuntu-ca mailing list
> >> ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com
> >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ca
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> > Message: 4
> > Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 16:43:19 -0400
> > From: Che <cheguebeara at gmail.com>
> > To: ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com
> > Subject: RE: Laptop suggestions
> > Message-ID: <1337373799.21823.17.camel at frodo>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > Dell had been selling 2 laptop and 2 PC models pre-loaded with Ubuntu
> > since 8.04 but because of pressure from MSoft (I understand...) they are
> > harder to find. Best to check http://linux.dell.com for the latest
> > situation.
> >
> > I have several Dells as well as a number of HP and Asus products and all
> > have no issues with installing Ubuntu out of the box (including wifi!).
> > I am currently running 12.04 or 11.10 (with Gnome3 - no Unity crud for
> > me thanks!) depending on which machines I have had the opportunity to
> > upgrade yet... lol...
> >
> > Since the price of laptops has dropped in the past couple of years and
> > there is no price saving getting a preloaded Ubuntu laptop (Dell
> > protects MSoft pricing...) it would be simpler to just buy a laptop with
> > Win7 on it and either wipe it clean or wubi up a dual boot system.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > On Fri, 2012-05-18 at 16:26 -0400, Mark Ueki Mina wrote:
> >> Last I checked from Ars, Dell is getting ready to sell Prepacked
> >> Ubuntu laptops.
> >>
> >>
> >> I'll find the article and some more info and I'll send it your way.
> >>
> >>
> >> > Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 13:28:15 -0600
> >> > Subject: Laptop suggestions
> >> > From: thevillagegeek at gmail.com
> >> > To: ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com
> >> >
> >> > I need to replace a problem laptop from a manufacturer with a
> >> warranty
> >> > that isn't worth the paper.
> >> >
> >> > My requirements:
> >> > Robustness (good hinges, LCD, no bending in, etc.)
> >> > Linux support (any Debian-derived distro, or perhaps Open SUSE. I
> >> have
> >> > Ubuntu 12.04 32-bit, several older *buntu versions)
> >> > Needs to work with: Wacom Bamboo drawing tablet, Huawei Android
> >> phone
> >> > for tethered Internet access
> >> > Basic business productivity
> >> > Some graphics capability, but I don't need to run Unity or do heavy
> >> 3D
> >> > or gaming)
> >> > Windows 7 as other OS (preferred, but I can make do without the
> >> 'pleasure')
> >> > Occasional attempts at customer service.
> >> > Looks, smooks. I need it to work. Bonus points if it is reasonably
> >> > repairable by little ol' me.
> >> >
> >> > With my current employer, I can get a 10% discount from Dell on most
> >> > of the product line. http://dell.ca
> >> >
> >> > Lenovo has a sale on some ThinkPads that ends at midnight tonight.
> >> > http://tinyurl.com/d6c9ynm
> >> > I'm thinking of a ThinkPad T420i
> >> >
> >> > Any experience that might be helpful? Feel free to email me direct,
> >> as
> >> > I get the list in digest form.
> >> >
> >> > Yeah, I'm also thinking of System 76 and the like, but this is to
> >> > replace a dual boot machine.
> >> >
> >> > Ralph
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > ubuntu-ca mailing list
> >> > ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com
> >> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ca
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 16:50:28 -0400
> > From: Dorian Pula <dorian.pula at gmail.com>
> > To: The Canadian Ubuntu Users Community <ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com>
> > Subject: Re: Laptop suggestions
> > Message-ID:
> >        <CAO8vrnukmaQAt+3Xa__iojpQwZbOeVFhYh9ZYwacrVYYn-oLug at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Yup.  Most laptops can install Ubuntu without an real issue nowadays.  (Not
> > like back in the days... don't worry I won't reminisce on setting up
> > Mandrake Linux on my first real laptop in university.)  The only gotcha is
> > that quite a few of the laptops sold now run Nvidia Optimus and that can be
> > fun to get running correctly.  But for the most part you should be fine
> > with most modern laptop.  Definitely go the dual boot route, since
> > sometimes, sometimes you might need Windows for some reason.  (Using Wine
> > to run Windows-only apps is still a gamble).
> >
> > Personally running Kubuntu 12.04 64-bit on a Samsung RF711 laptop and quite
> > happy with it.
> >
> > -- Dorian
> >
> > On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Che <cheguebeara at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Dell had been selling 2 laptop and 2 PC models pre-loaded with Ubuntu
> >> since 8.04 but because of pressure from MSoft (I understand...) they are
> >> harder to find. Best to check http://linux.dell.com for the latest
> >> situation.
> >>
> >> I have several Dells as well as a number of HP and Asus products and all
> >> have no issues with installing Ubuntu out of the box (including wifi!).
> >> I am currently running 12.04 or 11.10 (with Gnome3 - no Unity crud for
> >> me thanks!) depending on which machines I have had the opportunity to
> >> upgrade yet... lol...
> >>
> >> Since the price of laptops has dropped in the past couple of years and
> >> there is no price saving getting a preloaded Ubuntu laptop (Dell
> >> protects MSoft pricing...) it would be simpler to just buy a laptop with
> >> Win7 on it and either wipe it clean or wubi up a dual boot system.
> >>
> >> Mark
> >>
> >> On Fri, 2012-05-18 at 16:26 -0400, Mark Ueki Mina wrote:
> >> > Last I checked from Ars, Dell is getting ready to sell Prepacked
> >> > Ubuntu laptops.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I'll find the article and some more info and I'll send it your way.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 13:28:15 -0600
> >> > > Subject: Laptop suggestions
> >> > > From: thevillagegeek at gmail.com
> >> > > To: ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com
> >> > >
> >> > > I need to replace a problem laptop from a manufacturer with a
> >> > warranty
> >> > > that isn't worth the paper.
> >> > >
> >> > > My requirements:
> >> > > Robustness (good hinges, LCD, no bending in, etc.)
> >> > > Linux support (any Debian-derived distro, or perhaps Open SUSE. I
> >> > have
> >> > > Ubuntu 12.04 32-bit, several older *buntu versions)
> >> > > Needs to work with: Wacom Bamboo drawing tablet, Huawei Android
> >> > phone
> >> > > for tethered Internet access
> >> > > Basic business productivity
> >> > > Some graphics capability, but I don't need to run Unity or do heavy
> >> > 3D
> >> > > or gaming)
> >> > > Windows 7 as other OS (preferred, but I can make do without the
> >> > 'pleasure')
> >> > > Occasional attempts at customer service.
> >> > > Looks, smooks. I need it to work. Bonus points if it is reasonably
> >> > > repairable by little ol' me.
> >> > >
> >> > > With my current employer, I can get a 10% discount from Dell on most
> >> > > of the product line. http://dell.ca
> >> > >
> >> > > Lenovo has a sale on some ThinkPads that ends at midnight tonight.
> >> > > http://tinyurl.com/d6c9ynm
> >> > > I'm thinking of a ThinkPad T420i
> >> > >
> >> > > Any experience that might be helpful? Feel free to email me direct,
> >> > as
> >> > > I get the list in digest form.
> >> > >
> >> > > Yeah, I'm also thinking of System 76 and the like, but this is to
> >> > > replace a dual boot machine.
> >> > >
> >> > > Ralph
> >> > >
> >> > > --
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> >> > > ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com
> >> > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ca
> >> >
> >>
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