[Ubuntu-ch] Ubuntu-ch Digest, Vol 29, Issue 5

Sun Dec 21 16:58:07 GMT 2008

as far as I know the whole Thinkpad series until today - will be supported
- see more about at thinkwiki.

- I personally provide the t- and r- series pre-installed with 8.10 and
Windows as a dual boot system.
That does not meen, that I remove the Windows License sticker on it (
....since that could be advantageous that you have a valid MS License, when
sell later in his life...)

Kind regards
____________________________
Peter Tellenbach
www.thinkpads.ch
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Today's Topics:

   1. Re:  Notebook with Ubuntu or without OS (Ramon Cahenzli)
   2. Re:  Notebook with Ubuntu or without OS (Silvan Gebhardt)
   3. Re:  Notebook with Ubuntu or without OS (nathalie)
   4. Re:  Notebook with Ubuntu or without OS (Jonathan Ernst)

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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 13:13:45 +0100 (CET)
From: Ramon Cahenzli <ramon.cahenzli at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-ch] Notebook with Ubuntu or without OS
To: ubuntu-ch at lists.ubuntu.com
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Hi Dominique,

> Where in Switzerland is it possible to buy notebook (ubuntu compatible)
> without OS or why not with ubuntu already installed ?

I'm trying to establish a precedent for brand-name computers without OS, 
but it's nearly impossible to achieve. Most brand-name manufacturers do 
not have the courage to offer machines without OS to the general public.

I've had some success with Fujitsu-Siemens, so I can get you any 
Fujitsu-Siemens laptop (except Amilo series) without OS. There are still a 
few compatibility problems on some models, the 72x0 series can't change 
the backlight brightness for example. Other than that, they're OK.

I'm also talking to two other brands, but no success so far on that front. 
My store's address is http://www.lincomp.ch, but if I can give you a hint, 
perhaps don't order anything before Christmas :)  Prices will be updated 
in January.

Ramon

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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 13:25:24 +0100
From: Silvan Gebhardt <pcdog at pcdog.ch>
Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-ch] Notebook with Ubuntu or without OS
To: Ramon Cahenzli <ramon.cahenzli at gmail.com>
Cc: "ubuntu-ch at lists.ubuntu.com" <ubuntu-ch at lists.ubuntu.com>
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toshiba will offer notebooks with opensolaris - these models might be  
interesting too then!

Silvan Gebhardt
PCdogIT
+41 78 810 3988
+1 (505) 480-9905

Am 20.12.2008 um 13:13 schrieb Ramon Cahenzli  
<ramon.cahenzli at gmail.com>:

> Hi Dominique,
>
>> Where in Switzerland is it possible to buy notebook (ubuntu  
>> compatible)
>> without OS or why not with ubuntu already installed ?
>
> I'm trying to establish a precedent for brand-name computers without  
> OS,
> but it's nearly impossible to achieve. Most brand-name manufacturers  
> do
> not have the courage to offer machines without OS to the general  
> public.
>
> I've had some success with Fujitsu-Siemens, so I can get you any
> Fujitsu-Siemens laptop (except Amilo series) without OS. There are  
> still a
> few compatibility problems on some models, the 72x0 series can't  
> change
> the backlight brightness for example. Other than that, they're OK.
>
> I'm also talking to two other brands, but no success so far on that  
> front.
> My store's address is http://www.lincomp.ch, but if I can give you a  
> hint,
> perhaps don't order anything before Christmas :)  Prices will be  
> updated
> in January.
>
> Ramon
>
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 23:10:24 +0100
From: nathalie <perrin at meetopia.net>
Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-ch] Notebook with Ubuntu or without OS
To: Ubuntu-ch at lists.ubuntu.com
Message-ID: <494D6D50.6080708 at meetopia.net>
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hello,
see info there ( in french -- sorry !)
http://wiki.swisslinux.org/fr/association/projets/detaxe?s[]=achat&s[]=porta
ble#magasins_suggeres
you can have links to some shops / in german switzerand as well -  
saling laptop without os or with linux, but some links seem outdated :-\
one shop in france seem to ship  to switzerland as well from its online 
store:
http://www.novatux.com/cat.php
they have laptop with ubuntu 8.04
if you buy to steg computer online, you can have desktop computer 
without OS, but no more laptop ( since 2007 !!!)

but it is very hard / if not impossible /  to find  laptop with Linux on 
local store in switzerland. And dont' ask them as i did (FNAC, SONY .. 
),  to remove the microsoft products for you before you buy it, they 
won't, they will refuse ... Above all: Dell :which french, italian or 
english stores, ( as well as  the us store), sale laptops with Ubuntu, 
Dell switzerland surprisingly, does not ! ( as i remember: it was a 
Dell.com decision two years ago, to offer an alternative to its consumers !)
Do they think swiss consumers are not interested enough ?
It seems that you can ask dell to remove the microsoft system and 
products from your computer and give you the money back, but i do not 
know how much time you have to spend and how much phone calls you have 
to do that bring you to this result ...

cheers

nathalie

Dominique Hausser a ?crit :
> Hello,
>
> Sorry to come back with this question, but I am unable to find any info
> on the web today (I did find some couple of weeks ago; I was sure there
> was a link from the Ubuntu Swiss team page).
>
> Where in Switzerland is it possible to buy notebook (ubuntu compatible)
> without OS or why not with ubuntu already installed ?
>
> I'll ask this question because I have to renew my equipment and do not
> want to buy a produce I'll never use.
>
> Thanks in advance for your suggestions and happy new year.
>   

-- 
nathalie perrin
netartiste & editrice
webart - tactical media & collaborative works

http://www.meetopia.net
perrin at meetopia.net

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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:57:37 +0100
From: Jonathan Ernst <jonathan at ernstfamily.ch>
Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-ch] Notebook with Ubuntu or without OS
To: nathalie <perrin at meetopia.net>
Cc: Ubuntu-ch at lists.ubuntu.com
Message-ID: <1229860657.32009.13.camel at jernst-desktop>
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Le samedi 20 d?cembre 2008 ? 23:10 +0100, nathalie a ?crit :
[...]
> It seems that you can ask dell to remove the microsoft system and 
> products from your computer and give you the money back, but i do not 
> know how much time you have to spend and how much phone calls you have 
> to do that bring you to this result ...

It takes about 20 minutes when you are used to.

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