[Ubuntu-ch] About the Swiss Team and other things that bother me, was Re: Ubuntu-ch Digest, Vol 45, Issue 10

[Myriam Schweingruber]

On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 14:03, Daniel Stoni <dsto at stoni.ch> wrote:
>
> Folks, would you mind to postpone the discussion to take place during a real
> meeting? Next RP would be a good occasion ...

Which I can't attend, sorry. A bit very far away for me in my current
situation. So, weather you like it or not, this discussion is going to
happen on this very mailing list, as uncomfortable it might seem to
you. As far as I am concerned, all those subscribed to the mailing
list are team members, shifting the discussion to a party that most
people don't even know about or can't attend is excluding.

We used to have meetings on IRC, where we should normally coordinate
the work, and on the mailing list. Expecting people from all
Switzerland to flock to Winterthur, which, at least for those from the
Tessin and the Suisse Romande, is not exactly near or by any means
central, is a bit much, Especially for a release party that is still
not to be found on our wiki, nor have I seen any ads for it go to
other Swiss Free Software groups. So that RP you are talking about is
a local party by local people, but certainly not an official Release
Party by the Swiss Team, since the team has only been contacted once
by mail and nobody bothered to use the official media to do the
organisation, despite my explicit demand to do so.. But I guess it was
too much to ask for people who don't give a damn that there are people
not speaking German in this country...

Which reminded me only about that old discussion we had a few years
back where people were complaining that not everything was in German,
because of one single person not speaking English. I have spend 3 full
days preparing ALL the wiki pages for the portal in FOUR languages,
everything was posted to the mailing list, all the wiki pages are
there, NOBODY did ANYTHING since to make this work. Funnily enough the
same people who complained then are the ones organizing that party,
but by carefully avoiding to include the team. That's what I call
dividing. Now think about...

Just to remind you: The Ubuntu Swiss Team is an official LoCo Team of
the Ubuntu Community, with a wiki, a mailing list and an IRC channel.
There are no other official channels in my eyes, nor are there in the
eyes of the rest of the Ubuntu community or the LoCo council, so
whatever is done elsewhere and not notified to any of these
communication channels is not official at all. period. We aka the
founding members of this team have worked hard to bring it where it is
and make this a recognized official LoCo Team, and I very much hope
the following leaders will work in the Ubuntu spirit as well. But by
doing that outside of the Team is certainly not the best way to start
with...


Regards, Myriam.

PS. May I point you to the current discussion on the LoCo-contacts
mailing list? All team leaders of the official teams will not only
have to sign the CoC, but also the LCoC. So think twice before doing
things without including the team in the discussion, there are not
many ways to do it right, but certainly a lot more ways to do it
wrong.

PPS. For digest subscribers, would you please read the digest mails
correctly and change the subject line to avoid breaking the thread, as
advised in the digest mail header? Thank you.
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