Lack of Connection Between Canonical and the Community

[Scott Kitterman]

Isn't this what Launchpad karma was supposed to be about (the problem being 
there's so much that's not in Launchpad)?

Scott K

On Sunday, December 07, 2014 11:55:08 PM Valorie Zimmerman wrote:
> Just a quick note about recognition: I've seen a talk by one of the
> Redhat folks where he talked about their badge system. It is rather
> all-encompassing, but it seems to really get their volunteers (mostly
> Fedora) all revved up. They get credit for posting to the forum, doing
> moderator work, posting and confirming bug reports, uploading patches,
> and on and on. Sort of gamifying casual involvement.
> 
> I'm not sure it would work for us, but it might be worth
> investigating; their infra is of course all open source.
> 
> Valorie
> 
> On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 11:38 PM, Benjamin Kerensa <bkerensa at ubuntu.com> 
wrote:
> > On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 10:30 PM, Jono Bacon <jono at jonobacon.org> wrote:
> >> On 7 December 2014 at 22:23, Benjamin Kerensa <bkerensa at ubuntu.com> 
wrote:
> >> > Five Practical things to help Ubuntu thrive:
> >> > - Invest in Contributor Recognition
> >> 
> >> Can you explain a bit more of what you think here by both investment
> >> and recognition. There are of course many different contributors in
> >> the community (different people and methods of contribution), and you
> >> can't recognize them all the time.
> > 
> > While I cannot say what solution will work best because it depends on who
> > implements it and what time and resources are available but I think having
> > a blog to highlight areas of the community and contributors could be a
> > good start. As I explained above I think Daniel Holbach did a really good
> > job back when he was doing the Developer Spotlights.
> > 
> > http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/06/ubuntu-12-10-development-update-1
> > http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/ubuntu-12-04-development-update-18
> > 
> > These were great although focused on Developers and what if that could be
> > done again but focused not on developers but all contributors (Community
> > and Canonical alike?)
> > 
> >> Also, something I learned is that when you recognize some, others feel
> >> ignored. How do you recommend we recognize folks in a way that feels
> >> balanced, and is within a limited set of resources?
> >> 
> >> > - Reduce Contributor Churn through Community Building
> >> 
> >> Again, can you provide more details of how you would propose we do this?
> > 
> > See previous response email
> > 
> >> > - Revisit Physical Events (doesn't have to be UDS but if Debian can
> >> > pull
> >> > off
> >> > Debconf then Ubuntu can pull off something so seems practical)
> >> 
> >> I agree that physical events would be a valuable thing to focus on. I
> >> have proposed UbuCons to fulfill this.
> > 
> > Ubucons seem to mostly serve as a place to give talks focused on Ubuntu
> > and
> > not so much as a place to sit down and hack or have contributor focused
> > meetings. If Ubucons changed to encompass this that would be cool.
> > 
> >> Do you envisage this more like an UbuCon than a UDS? That seems more
> >> practical to me.
> > 
> > Like a super mini-UDS and I do not know if all UbuCon's are alike but the
> > one I went to at Scale was just Ubuntu Talks given it was like a Ubuntu
> > Conference Track versus an actual event for Ubuntu Contributors.
> > 
> >> > - Ask Mark, Jane and other key people to offer weekly Community
> >> > Townhalls to
> >> > discuss roadmap
> >> 
> >> Weekly seems excessive to me. I just don't think the roadmaps will
> >> change from week to week.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Maybe a monthly townhall could be interesting though?
> > 
> > Monthly would be interesting and ofc Mark doesn't have to be at all of
> > them
> > but it would be nice to see a few key people from various areas of the
> > project giving updates on things. One thing we do at the start of each of
> > Mozilla's is we have a friends of tree where we highlight contributors who
> > did something awesome since the last townhall.
> > 
> > We will have verbal updates from across the project here is what the wiki
> > looks like and then these are done over video.
> > https://wiki.mozilla.org/WeeklyUpdates (again these are also open to the
> > public and there is one tomorrow if anyone would like to call in to the
> > toll free # or watch it from http://air.mozilla.org to get an idea of
> > what I am suggesting.
> > 
> >> > - Create a Community Newsletter that specifically focuses on the Ubuntu
> >> > Community (see Mozilla's about:community newsletter)
> >> 
> >> UWN seems to do this.
> > 
> > UWN imho is a TL;DR email aggregation of Planet + Some Tech Blogs versus
> > what I was thinking of.
> > 
> >> > If any of these seem impractical I would simply ask someone to let me
> >> > know
> >> > why.
> >> 
> >> I think they are all great ideas, I would just like to hear some more
> >> about how you think they could work. :-)
> >> 
> >> Thanks,
> >> 
> >>    Jono
> > 
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