Governance??? A wake up call

[Laura Czajkowski]

 ----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Kitterman" 
To:
Cc:
Sent:Wed, 19 Nov 2014 09:45:49 -0500
Subject:Re: Governance??? A wake up call

 On Wednesday, November 19, 2014 19:56:56 Aveem Ashfaq wrote:
 ...
 > "Create a sub-committee consisting of the most famous Kubuntu
developer and
 > someone from XFCE and a loose candidate from Unity. So, now Kubuntu
 > community are happy about their place in the boards. They would
like to
 > make the seat more permanent and would be more active in
contributions.
 > Convert rivalry and friction into a competition of innovation. So,
now the
 > discussions are more volcanic and there is better brainstorming."
 ...

 Speaking as a Kubuntu developer and Kubuntu Council member, I don't
see a need 
 for this. There are some points of friction, but they are primarily
technical 
 over Qt5 maintenance details and how the future transition to
Mir/Wayland will 
 be handled.

 We have ongoing discussions about this and while there are issues, we
work 
 through them. If we ever have an issue that can't be resolved 
 collaboratively, then if it's technical, the technical board is the
right 
 place to discuss it and if it's something else, the community council
is the 
 right place. We've brought issues to both as needed.

 The bigger problem I've seen is that sometimes the CC gets caught in
the 
 middle. We brought some questions about Canonical claims that
derivatives 
 couldn't use Ubuntu binary packages without a license to the CC. I
don't 
 think that anyone on the Kubuntu side of the question feels like we
ever got a 
 straight answer, but the problem wasn't with the CC They faithfully
asked 
 Canonical legal and got all the answers they could. It just didn't
amount to 
 much in my opinion.

 No amount of governance change will fix issues like that. It's just
going to 
 happen sometimes. 

 Scott K

I think Scott has put it very well in his last few mails, hats off to
him for that!  I think that it's good to have these discussions as
long as something comes from them rather than alienating the community
as some people seem to be doing.  With any discussion you need to
come out with some action items and objectives.  With that in mind,
the CC has rescheduled it's meeting on the 4th of December  to
discuss this topic, please add any items for discussion on the agenda
and if you cannot make the meeting please mail the CC with your
comments so we can add that to the
meeting. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda
Thanks 
Laura
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