I'm stopping contributing

Alberto Salvia Novella es20490446e at gmail.com
Mon Jun 5 18:01:31 UTC 2017


José Antonio Rey:
> Did you ever propose these changes publicly through a mailing list, for 
> example, to allow for discussion and changes?

The conversations procreated at infinitum.

On one hand because I have myself given too much power to comments about 
the talking itself. On the other because the people there weren't really 
in a position to approve these changes, so they came to all kind of 
reasons to avoid them.

Moreover many lack all the day by day information about how things are 
going, so basically discussing with outsiders is discussing with people 
which are misinformed and really don't have the time to dig further.

The fix is that people in charge agree with the rest what should be the 
outcome of the work, but allowing them to come up with the solution 
without watching them all the time. Either if it's done by me or by 
other person. The agreement should be measured by the results, not the 
hundred minor details.

For example if a group is triaging bugs, that people shall be the ones 
deciding how to triage. They shall agree with the community the outcome 
of it, but digging into the implementation just makes the conversation 
infeasible.


José Antonio Rey:
 > I can attest that it's difficult to work with NVIDIA drivers because
 > they are usually proprietary.

That's one reason, but there's a second one: most people won't report 
those bugs at all, simply because it's too hard for them.

(http://girlsaskguys.com/technology-internet/q2426552-would-you-follow-this)

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muri_(Japanese_term))


José Antonio Rey:
 > As for the wiki. I can personally take responsibility for not
 > following through as fast as I thought I would. Real life has taken a
 > huge toll on my time, but I'm still looking into migrating to
 > Mediawiki.

The wiki is what arbitrates how all the work is done. It's the basis for 
everything else, even more important than bugs and development themselves.

95% of stuff is done by contributors. If doing the work is easygoing and 
meaningful there will be more, if it isn't there would be less. That 
practically summarised the success of an online project, that most work 
is done by the client itself.

Many of these people are students on their teens, or people that 
casually enjoys technology. The project image and procedures need to fit 
that, be more playful and have a sense of a higher purpose, and someone 
paid should be in charge of those things.


José Antonio Rey:
 > Even though there's a company supporting it, the community can always
 > take the reins and keep on moving forward on its own.

Canonical sets the image of the project, designates people in charge of 
infrastructure, and sets procedures like the ones related with triaging.

The wall I'm finding is that community individuals don't feel entitled 
enough to approve the needed changes, and nobody is designated to do 
them in my absence.


Have a nice day.

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